MaYHeM/DDE vs FS

[deni]

Awww, trying to change the topic now?

Nothing else you can come with now MLH? Just some empty nothing saying words?

I expected better - like some other supposed sneaky plot of mine.

Would have been more entertaining

[MajorLeeHurts]

Awww, trying to change the topic now?

Nothing else you can come with now MLH? Just some empty nothing saying words?

I expected better - like some other supposed sneaky plot of mine.

Would have been more entertaining

You accuse me of forum fighting then insult me when I dont engage in it.

Who are you trying to prove what to woman?

[deni]

Ahhhh - now comes the partronizing part.

Next there will be the claims of moral superiority ...

...a perfect textbook example of how people behave when loosing an argument

[MEZZANINE]

5) The main forum mod power struggle during the server war when Deni was trying to remove TTF mods and replace them with FUALL mods, she dont like dirty deals exposed they're supposed to remain secret.

If they were secret how comes you do know about them?

3) Caladon, the multi scammer I could not prove after DDE bullied the informant in DDE who gave me his name into changing his story.

See, you are still calling along time DDE member a multi and a scammer nad have not provided ANY proof.

But not only that, you accuse all of DDE to providing him a safe haven.

Ridiculous

And then you wonder why this war is still goin on

I see you are still creatively editing posts and quotes to suit yourself, the full point from the previous page was

3) Caladon, the multi scammer I could not prove after DDE bullied the informant in DDE who gave me his name into changing his story. But dont forget _Death_dealer_ another multi of the same scammer in DDE who I did prove, and even Deni accepted the proof and kicked that account out of DDE.

You Deni, personally made _Death_Dealer_ repay the UU he scammed from an FS member, then booted him from DDE based on the irrefutable evidence I provided. So dont make out like DDE is immune to infiltration by scammers & multi's, your not, people like that worm their way into every alliance, at the time I was very impressed by Clarkeys work in this area but he seemed to avoid the guilty ones in FUALL / TTF alliances so I had a go at exposing some of the scammers/multis he would not go near. I had less evidence against Caladon NOT none, and it was nothing to do with not liking DDE, I was also involved in tracking down the guy who scammed Meitlan, a friend of mine who was in TDD at the time he was scammed.

And BTW, I offered Caladon to 1-v-1 me, but you guys all jumped in saying you fight one of us you fight us all, a wimps response, DDE only fight when the odds are heavily in their favor, when you think you're going to lose you run to your empire for support.




As I said before all this is old news, we are where we are and none of it looks likely to change any time soon

As for ME, this is my old account upto the point I traded in Jan 10

Your Achievements (war points per in brakets)
Attack Mercs Killed (1) 60,856,553
Defence Mercs Killed (20) 439,353,108
Attack Soldiers Killed(2.5) 4,172,187
Defence Soldiers Killed(50) 45,855,217
Attack Super Soldiers Killed(15) 58,731,927
Defence Super Soldiers Killed(300) 749,769,288
Spies Killed(100) 560,798,162
Spy Killers Killed(5) 50,603,092
Mothership Weapons Destroyed(300) 44,794,453
Mothership Shields Destroyed(300) 35,695,707
Mothership Fleets Destroyed(200) 1,078,946
Planet Defences Destroyed(300) 2,618,304
Planets Taken(5000) 163
Naquadah Stolen(0.0001) 380,385,036,975,272
Untrained Kidnapped(100) 479,772,534
Weapon Points Destroyed (Sab+Att)(0.1) 9,580,082,122,046
Attack Turns Used(1) 1,059,787
TOTAL WAR EXPERIENCE POINTS 404,461,667,280

And my new account temp record since the day I traded in Jan 10

Attack Mercs Killed (30) 67,550,132
Defence Mercs Killed (10) 357,993,187
Attack Soldiers Killed(60) 1,522,148
Defence Soldiers Killed(20) 10,936,935
Attack Super Soldiers Killed(300) 59,045,496
Defence Super Soldiers Killed(100) 550,368,323
Spies Killed(50) 342,401,158
Spy Killers Killed(50) 55,468,018
Mothership Weapons Destroyed(300) 1,257,121
Mothership Shields Destroyed(300) 3,612,371
Mothership Fleets Destroyed(200) 123,317
Planet Defences Destroyed(300) 2,830
Planets Taken(5000) 45
Naquadah Stolen(0.0001) 423,949,462,646,828
Untrained Kidnapped(50) 640,204,023
Weapon Points Destroyed (Sab+Att)(0.0001) 6,572,874,700,365
Attack Turns Used(1) 377,250
TOTAL WAR EXPERIENCE POINTS 174,452,552,975

My old account I had for over 4 years, many many wars including 9 months or so against DDE but most when army sizes were smaller. The new account I have only been at war with DDE, so the 2nd ME is all thanks to you guys in the last 6 months or so.

[deni]

You do seem to miss my point again Mezzanine.


You admit yourself that when I found a multi in our training alliance I had him reported to Jason, kicked out of the alliance and banned.


In the same breath you claim that I did protect another multi and scammer and even bullied some mystrious informant of yours to change their story.

Now tell me, how does that fit together.

So I repeat: There is no proof that Caladon is a scammer known as Dustin except in your mind.

I have urged you many time to provide proof yet you always come up with a convo between you and Famine where Famine did NOT confirm that Caladon was Dustin.

I even went to Jason asking him to perform a check on Caladon, which he did.


Instead I had to deal with all the insults your alliance mates threw at me for not taking actions against an alliance member of mine without ANY proof.


So thank you for making my point for me.

[MajorLeeHurts]

Ahhhh - now comes the partronizing part.

Next there will be the claims of moral superiority ...

...a perfect textbook example of how people behave when loosing an argument

you are the only one arguing


*sigh*

sounds like you want me to be patronizing and morally superior ... I charge extra for that

[deni]

Ahhhh - now comes the partronizing part.

Next there will be the claims of moral superiority ...

...a perfect textbook example of how people behave when loosing an argument

you are the only one arguing


*sigh*

sounds like you want me to be patronizing and morally superior ... I charge extra for that

You do it already for free and provide a lot of entertainment.

We thank you for that

[MajorLeeHurts]

Ahhhh - now comes the partronizing part.

Next there will be the claims of moral superiority ...

...a perfect textbook example of how people behave when loosing an argument

you are the only one arguing


*sigh*

sounds like you want me to be patronizing and morally superior ... I charge extra for that

You do it already for free and provide a lot of entertainment.

We thank you for that

Wouldnt be the same without you

[Kjarkur]

Think of it this way, every alliance needs it rival. We can agree to disagree and leave it at that - and just fight ingame.

[bebita]

Your Achievements (war points per in brakets)
Attack Mercs Killed (1) 60,856,553
Defence Mercs Killed (20) 439,353,108
Attack Soldiers Killed(2.5) 4,172,187
Defence Soldiers Killed(50) 45,855,217
Attack Super Soldiers Killed(15) 58,731,927
Defence Super Soldiers Killed(300) 749,769,288
Spies Killed(100) 560,798,162
Spy Killers Killed(5) 50,603,092
Mothership Weapons Destroyed(300) 44,794,453
Mothership Shields Destroyed(300) 35,695,707
Mothership Fleets Destroyed(200) 1,078,946
Planet Defences Destroyed(300) 2,618,304
Planets Taken(5000) 163
Naquadah Stolen(0.0001) 380,385,036,975,272
Untrained Kidnapped(100) 479,772,534
Weapon Points Destroyed (Sab+Att)(0.1) 9,580,082,122,046
Attack Turns Used(1) 1,059,787
TOTAL WAR EXPERIENCE POINTS 404,461,667,280

And my new account temp record since the day I traded in Jan 10

Attack Mercs Killed (30) 67,550,132
Defence Mercs Killed (10) 357,993,187
Attack Soldiers Killed(60) 1,522,148
Defence Soldiers Killed(20) 10,936,935
Attack Super Soldiers Killed(300) 59,045,496
Defence Super Soldiers Killed(100) 550,368,323
Spies Killed(50) 342,401,158
Spy Killers Killed(50) 55,468,018
Mothership Weapons Destroyed(300) 1,257,121
Mothership Shields Destroyed(300) 3,612,371
Mothership Fleets Destroyed(200) 123,317
Planet Defences Destroyed(300) 2,830
Planets Taken(5000) 45
Naquadah Stolen(0.0001) 423,949,462,646,828
Untrained Kidnapped(50) 640,204,023
Weapon Points Destroyed (Sab+Att)(0.0001) 6,572,874,700,365
Attack Turns Used(1) 377,250
TOTAL WAR EXPERIENCE POINTS 174,452,552,975

i wonder if u realise this numbers means nothing for 30-50% of dde while except in your alliance just brothers can compete with u

[jedi~tank]

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[papa~smurf]

wow

good read over bagel coffee and 6 am lol

U know, i think the fourm will really miss this if it ever ends, i mean wow

deni and aud cat fight ya ! boys love that stuff and bring pudding next time please

jt why oh why would any one want to talk when it seem u all so love to argue, and frankly i dont think any talks from FS are in the pipe line but one could hope that this sence less little excapism would run its course some day. Oh and btw thanks for fessing up about u wanting this to happen, i clearly remember speaking with u and i was all "dont know". Chuck y u are the cagy one and u wonder why people question every thing u say LMAO


DDE and FS enjoy your game, no matter how u play every ones a winner every one a loser except b's he just a....not sure if i want to say


hay did any one notice that big red thing in the sky and how warm its gotten our side ? damn u guys are white as ghost

(clue music)
see u in sept , or lose u to a funner game............

[~Destruction1~]

2) FS did not support TTF in any way, some FS members did trade with TTF members but just because of personal friendships, in fact I traded mostly with FUALL since I knew and was friends with more FUALL members at the time, hell just ask D1 how many times I sold him ATs cheap.

If my memory serves me right you sold me turns once. And I accepted without checking who the broker was from or it wouldn't even have been once.

I do remember someone trying to broker turns which I left in the broker to expire, was that you as well?

Although I do buy loads of turns, did you sell me some the week we massed your trying alliance? Nice of you to provide the turns to attack your smaller guys if you did.

D1

[MEZZANINE]

2) FS did not support TTF in any way, some FS members did trade with TTF members but just because of personal friendships, in fact I traded mostly with FUALL since I knew and was friends with more FUALL members at the time, hell just ask D1 how many times I sold him ATs cheap.

If my memory serves me right you sold me turns once. And I accepted without checking who the broker was from or it wouldn't even have been once.

I do remember someone trying to broker turns which I left in the broker to expire, was that you as well?

Although I do buy loads of turns, did you sell me some the week we massed your trying alliance? Nice of you to provide the turns to attack your smaller guys if you did.

D1

I sold you turns many times and you often PMed me as I sold them below market rates, maybe your memory is a bit fuzzy since you buy so many. But no, you didnt use my ATs when attacking us, FS stopped trading with DDE several weeks before the war started due to deteriorating relations.

You do seem to miss my point again Mezzanine.
You admit yourself that when I found a multi in our training alliance I had him reported to Jason, kicked out of the alliance and banned.
In the same breath you claim that I did protect another multi and scammer and even bullied some mystrious informant of yours to change their story.
Now tell me, how does that fit together.
So I repeat: There is no proof that Caladon is a scammer known as Dustin except in your mind.
I have urged you many time to provide proof yet you always come up with a convo between you and Famine where Famine did NOT confirm that Caladon was Dustin.
I even went to Jason asking him to perform a check on Caladon, which he did.
Instead I had to deal with all the insults your alliance mates threw at me for not taking actions against an alliance member of mine without ANY proof.
So thank you for making my point for me.

I the case of _death_dealer_ when I presented you with irrefutable evidence you did make him repay, then kicked him and at the time I was grateful for your quick action.

In the case of Caladon, because of you quick action with _death_dealer_ I came to you again and even trusted you with the name of the person who tipped me off, but instead of helping, the person who tipped me off was bullied into changing his story, then you simply stopped replying to my emails so I went public with what little I had, Admin never replied to my request for checks on Caladon and without the tip off guy and with a vague MSN convo from Famine ( which I was not in ) I was unable to prove it or get satisfactory intel to clear his name.

In short,

_death_dealer_ definitely guilty, I proved it and you helped punish him

Caladon case remains open IMO since you refused to help, put a stop to the one source I trusted you with and tipped him off to my suspicions so he could have covered his tracks

Basically the reason I still suspect Caladon is because I trusted and came to you to early, I should have finished my investigation before coming to you.

[deni]

2) FS did not support TTF in any way, some FS members did trade with TTF members but just because of personal friendships, in fact I traded mostly with FUALL since I knew and was friends with more FUALL members at the time, hell just ask D1 how many times I sold him ATs cheap.

If my memory serves me right you sold me turns once. And I accepted without checking who the broker was from or it wouldn't even have been once.

I do remember someone trying to broker turns which I left in the broker to expire, was that you as well?

Although I do buy loads of turns, did you sell me some the week we massed your trying alliance? Nice of you to provide the turns to attack your smaller guys if you did.

D1

I sold you turns many times and you often PMed me as I sold them below market rates, maybe your memory is a bit fuzzy since you buy so many. But no, you didnt use my ATs when attacking us, FS stopped trading with DDE several weeks before the war started due to deteriorating relations.

You do seem to miss my point again Mezzanine.
You admit yourself that when I found a multi in our training alliance I had him reported to Jason, kicked out of the alliance and banned.
In the same breath you claim that I did protect another multi and scammer and even bullied some mystrious informant of yours to change their story.
Now tell me, how does that fit together.
So I repeat: There is no proof that Caladon is a scammer known as Dustin except in your mind.
I have urged you many time to provide proof yet you always come up with a convo between you and Famine where Famine did NOT confirm that Caladon was Dustin.
I even went to Jason asking him to perform a check on Caladon, which he did.
Instead I had to deal with all the insults your alliance mates threw at me for not taking actions against an alliance member of mine without ANY proof.
So thank you for making my point for me.

I the case of _death_dealer_ when I presented you with irrefutable evidence you did make him repay, then kicked him and at the time I was grateful for your quick action.

In the case of Caladon, because of you quick action with _death_dealer_ I came to you again and even trusted you with the name of the person who tipped me off, but instead of helping, the person who tipped me off was bullied into changing his story, then you simply stopped replying to my emails so I went public with what little I had, Admin never replied to my request for checks on Caladon and without the tip off guy and with a vague MSN convo from Famine ( which I was not in ) I was unable to prove it or get satisfactory intel to clear his name.

In short,

_death_dealer_ definitely guilty, I proved it and you helped punish him

Caladon case remains open IMO since you refused to help, put a stop to the one source I trusted you with and tipped him off to my suspicions so he could have covered his tracks

Basically the reason I still suspect Caladon is because I trusted and came to you to early, I should have finished my investigation before coming to you.

The human mind has a remarkable feature - it tends to twist the truth in order to make it fit to its desires.


Seems that happened here aswell as you are undoubtely not posting the facts as they are documented in the Caladon thread in the cheaters section.

I suggest you do check it out as it might refresh your memory.


Further, I suggest you stop accusing me for covering up a multi/scammer. I take things like that personally despite how laughable the accusation is.



I have to admit you are right on one thing though - I refused to help you. I refused to take any action against a member of my alliance without proof.

I have to disappoint you there - your "hunch" that Caladon might be Justin was and still is not good enough for me.

Shoot me for it.