Happy Birthday ETL! - TAF vs. OE

[BMMJ13]

Taf sure is talking big about having defenses. When I was around I was up top, not getting touched for months, no one in TAF have stats then.

And as soon as a few fighters in OE go on vacation TAF claim OE do nothing anymore.

Kinda funny since the few months before, not much happened in TAF.

Almost makes me want to come back and mass you all again.

TAF had some go on vacation as well, difference being TAF doesn't have only 2 competent, active fighters in their entire group.

[Mathlord]

Taf sure is talking big about having defenses. When I was around I was up top, not getting touched for months, no one in TAF have stats then.

And as soon as a few fighters in OE go on vacation TAF claim OE do nothing anymore.

Kinda funny since the few months before, not much happened in TAF.

Almost makes me want to come back and mass you all again.

The few months? The war was only going for two months...for most of that month where you sat up there with that defense, the server was down. Two or three days after you sold your account (the hour it came off PPT actually), it was massed. I wish I could have done it while you still had it, like I did earlier in the war, but c'est la vie. You know, when I came back from two weeks of less-than-active gameplay...cause, you know...the game was down...it took me two massing runs to take down everything that was built in OE. Do you really think OE had so much built if that's all it took? And you know what? Waiting two weeks and then clearing everything seemed to work pretty well looking at how OE reacted to it

The funny thing, even when the game was crashing constantly, we were still building defenses you guys weren't finding. I have utterly no idea where any of you think we were ever statless, but it's a good story and one you stick to well. But hey, you should feel honored. It was in fact one of your posts Dazman that made me build my defense and see how it would hold up.

So let me get this straight though...we waited until a FEW fighters in Omega went on vacation mode or sold up...a few...that was all it took to turn Omega from a massing superpower into what it is now? Interesting. Well that's good to know.

[HgE]

Taf sure is talking big about having defenses. When I was around I was up top, not getting touched for months, no one in TAF have stats then.

And as soon as a few fighters in OE go on vacation TAF claim OE do nothing anymore.

Kinda funny since the few months before, not much happened in TAF.

Almost makes me want to come back and mass you all again.

As long as that Few OE fighters has $$ at their disposal, and the whole OE depend on them to fight, then, OE is doing nothing.

As for what Happend in TAF, don't think it's your business. We do our war as we pleased.
Sniper are goods, can decide a war in seconds. So .. time have changed also, for OE... but who cares?

[Norbe]

TAF had some go on vacation as well, difference being TAF doesn't have only 2 competent, active fighters in their entire group.

Yup. Still on vac mode here. Although Mathlord's posts are very inspiring. Last week I was visiting DI, was going to go massing OE with him, but we couldn't find any stats that would have been worth it.

~Norbe~

[Mathlord]

You gave us an early out.

Asking for a 6 month NAP for a few short weeks. Hell the Sever War was 2 years and that was a 3 month NAP. You guys wanted to surrender in return for a 6 month NAP for fighting for a few weeks.

You guys talk about massing and 0 def'. I had a 2.8tril def for like 2 months with no attacks on me whatever, then a 5 tril def for about 2 month, untill you massed it about 1 month ago Math. During that time, I was farming for over 20bil for quite a while.

We've only been at war for less than three months you silly silly person lol. Yes we said we'd end the war (surrender? LMAO that's hilarious...we suggested a draw considering we massed all of your asses that had built). That 6 month NAP offer was more than fair considering how many stupid wars we keep having. It would have allowed both of our empires a breather from constant warfare. Turns out in the end we didn't need the breather, but OE really could have used one

[Rudy Peña]

You gave us an early out.

Asking for a 6 month NAP for a few short weeks. Hell the Sever War was 2 years and that was a 3 month NAP. You guys wanted to surrender in return for a 6 month NAP for fighting for a few weeks.

You guys talk about massing and 0 def'. I had a 2.8tril def for like 2 months with no attacks on me whatever, then a 5 tril def for about 2 month, untill you massed it about 1 month ago Math. During that time, I was farming for over 20bil for quite a while.

We've only been at war for two months you silly silly person lol. Yes we said we'd end the war (surrender? LMAO that's hilarious...we suggested a draw considering we massed all of your asses that had built). That 6 month NAP offer was more than fair considering how many stupid wars we keep having. It would have allowed both of our empires a breather from constant warfare. Turns out in the end we didn't need the breather, but OE really could have used one

YOou guys were the one who declared war on OE. You guys started the war, causing both empires not to have a "breather".

I'll give no reasons for this, its your birthday! You should relax and not have to read forums... Celebrate! Kick your feet up and take a break!
(like the rest of Omega did when they hit alliance ppt and watched alpha burn)

Oh but let me get to the point... The Tauri Alliance Family declares war upon the Omegan Empire + The Collective. Enjoy

[Norbe]

Oh but let me get to the point... The Tauri Alliance Family declares war upon the Omegan Empire + The Collective. Enjoy

Have you forgotten about ETL massing TÅTS in the hours before our war declaration? Our declaration was merely a response to those massings on TAF members by OE members.

~Norbe~

[SSG EnterTheLion]

lmao! I'm DAMNED impressed your defence lasted 3 weeks..oops remind me again what was going on in the game?! Sorry lads but counting REAL ingame time and not SHUT DOWN game time, your defences have lasted what? A week if that!

And BMMJ, you are easily impressed. The lag is all that saved Mathlord.

And as for comparing the TA...hmmm would I rather be in an alliance that actually hunts cheats or would I rather be in an alliance that still supports old members who **Filtered** exploited this game big time. So don't come on here crying about the holier than thou TA!

And when I said over 70 percent descended, I wasn't referring to over 70 percent of TAEE, I meant ALL of TAF! TAEE was more like over 90 percent!

And as for the start of this war, I love your revisionist history. Beliblisk I believe it was massed 2 OE members so 3 of us decided to mass TATS. So I guess they went crying to the rest of TAF. lol

[Rudy Peña]

Oh but let me get to the point... The Tauri Alliance Family declares war upon the Omegan Empire + The Collective. Enjoy

Have you forgotten about ETL massing TÅTS in the hours before our war declaration? Our declaration was merely a response to those massings on TAF members by OE members.

~Norbe~

So you knew a alliance of yours couldnt handle a few people, you had to up the stakes cause you didnt want your alliance buddies to get hurt. Cant let people fight, but will gang up on people cause you think they cant handle a lil war.

[Mathlord]

YOou guys were the one who declared war on OE. You guys started the war, causing both empires not to have a "breather".

As Norbe said, yes we declared on OE...after three Omegans decided to declare war on TATS AND earlier in the week (or the previous week depending on your definition of week lol) three TA members were massed by Omegans for light farming of OE (while OE thought it was okay to turn farm our alliances)

We've never asked for unfair treatment for TAF. Only that if you farm us, we farm you. If you mass us, we mass you. Simple as that. We're very reasonable if you treat us with the same standards you yourself expect to be treated. That's why we suggest long NAPs. To prevent these problems from starting. If you farm us, we will show up in your logs. If you mass us for that, well what do you know.

[Rudy Peña]

YOou guys were the one who declared war on OE. You guys started the war, causing both empires not to have a "breather".

As Norbe said, yes we declared on OE...after three Omegans decided to declare war on TATS AND earlier in the week (or the previous week depending on your definition of week lol) three TA members were massed by Omegans for light farming of OE (while OE thought it was okay to turn farm our alliances)

We've never asked for unfair treatment for TAF. Only that if you farm us, we farm you. If you mass us, we mass you. Simple as that. We're very reasonable if you treat us with the same standards you yourself expect to be treated. That's why we suggest long NAPs. To prevent these problems from starting. If you farm us, we will show up in your logs. If you mass us for that, well what do you know.

Kinda funny, cause before this war started, I was farming TAAE with people who had 0 defs for months and close to 0 defs cause they were inactive.

DI, took it upon himself to threaten to mass me and then mini massed me for farming over half his alliance, which were inactive for many months. Seeing, as how I never massed him or TAAE, just farming. So you guys also do mass first.

[Mathlord]

lmao! I'm DAMNED impressed your defence lasted 3 weeks..oops remind me again what was going on in the game?! Sorry lads but counting REAL ingame time and not SHUT DOWN game time, your defences have lasted what? A week if that!

And BMMJ, you are easily impressed. The lag is all that saved Mathlord.

And as for comparing the TA...hmmm would I rather be in an alliance that actually hunts cheats or would I rather be in an alliance that still supports old members who **Filtered** exploited this game big time. So don't come on here crying about the holier than thou TA!

And when I said over 70 percent descended, I wasn't referring to over 70 percent of TAEE, I meant ALL of TAF! TAEE was more like over 90 percent!

And as for the start of this war, I love your revisionist history. Beliblisk I believe it was massed 2 OE members so 3 of us decided to mass TATS. So I guess they went crying to the rest of TAF. lol

Yes, Beliblisk massed 2 OE members AFTER three TA members were massed for light farming. Eye for an eye. You massed TA members for farming, Beli massed OE members for farming. You massed TATS, we came after OE. Hell, war was decided the minute you massed those first three TA members...Everything else was just icing on the cake.

Welcome back to the forums ETL, your lack of knowledge on how things happen ingame is always appreciated. It reminds us all that you really don't know what goes on in the alliance you run

[Norbe]

And as for the start of this war, I love your revisionist history. Beliblisk I believe it was massed 2 OE members so 3 of us decided to mass TATS. So I guess they went crying to the rest of TAF. lol

Honestly, truthfully and cutting through all the BS. Both sides knew that as, after many attempts we were unable to agree on a diplomatic way to prevent this war happening, something was going to trigger it. Whichever way you look at it, it was escalating cause and response from both sides. Where you draw the line of definition on who declared the war doesn't really matter. We made multiple offers of NAP extensions and/or farming+no massing agreements in an effort to stop this occurring. Omega's official line in diplomatic talks was simply that they would not agree to it, unless "there was special benefits to the Omegan Empire".

End result. Instead of a NAP and friendly relations we offered, you chose to be the recipients of some very special benefits indeed. Massings, delivered the TA way.

~Norbe~

[Mathlord]

lmao! I'm DAMNED impressed your defence lasted 3 weeks..oops remind me again what was going on in the game?! Sorry lads but counting REAL ingame time and not SHUT DOWN game time, your defences have lasted what? A week if that!

And BMMJ, you are easily impressed. The lag is all that saved Mathlord.

And as for comparing the TA...hmmm would I rather be in an alliance that actually hunts cheats or would I rather be in an alliance that still supports old members who **Filtered** exploited this game big time. So don't come on here crying about the holier than thou TA!

And when I said over 70 percent descended, I wasn't referring to over 70 percent of TAEE, I meant ALL of TAF! TAEE was more like over 90 percent!

And as for the start of this war, I love your revisionist history. Beliblisk I believe it was massed 2 OE members so 3 of us decided to mass TATS. So I guess they went crying to the rest of TAF. lol

Forgot to respond to the rest of this. Two of us saw you massing me after your first 4 attacks on my account. I wasn't repairing until you gave me a war setting. You can pretend that if things were different you'd have sabbed or ac'd me, but coulda shoulda woulda. Besides we had contingencies in place

I actually built my defense a week after the server crashed. I know you don't log in that much ETL, but the servers (aside from this weekend) had actually been pretty good for a few weeks. Not great, but they have been up. Certainly enough for me to be able to mass you guys whenever you build...

And now you bring up the ancient history. Do you really want me to remind you how your alliance used many of the exact same exploits you despised, how you bought accounts off cheaters, let in scammers (even though you hate scammers and cheaters), extorted TA players and hacked forum accounts? How you would abuse a "bug" in the game until others started doing it then you'd call it a bug (whereas before it was a feature) and had it changed? How whenever something doesn't look like it's going your way, you find a way to change the game so you have a better chance of winning? Your history is full of bending the rules to fit your will and the will of the Omegan Empire and you have the nerve to insult my alliance's reputation...

[SSG EnterTheLion]

And as for the start of this war, I love your revisionist history. Beliblisk I believe it was massed 2 OE members so 3 of us decided to mass TATS. So I guess they went crying to the rest of TAF. lol

Honestly, truthfully and cutting through all the BS. Both sides knew that as, after many attempts we were unable to agree on a diplomatic way to prevent this war happening, something was going to trigger it. Whichever way you look at it, it was escalating cause and response from both sides. Where you draw the line of definition on who declared the war doesn't really matter. We made multiple offers of NAP extensions and/or farming+no massing agreements in an effort to stop this occurring. Omega's official line in diplomatic talks was simply that they would not agree to it, unless "there was special benefits to the Omegan Empire".

End result. Instead of a NAP and friendly relations we offered, you chose to be the recipients of some very special benefits indeed. Massings, delivered the TA way.

~Norbe~

What massings? You do realise that OE have been at constant war for months before the TAF..I remember talking to someone, I think it might have been Robe about TAF actually having more to lose for once. By the time TAF came to the party, we had long since worn out our 100 trill plus defences. And then we have math boasting that he sabbed away my defence. Seriously I was laughing! If he wants to sab a few thousand weapons for the loss of so many spies every time...I'll bloody build a similar defence and he's WELCOME to sab it all day!!

And to prove that he would have been toast if there was no lag:

02:09 Mathlord 32,516,965,940 Naquadah stolen 15 1,336,699 625,581 21,985,718,786,200 54,688,978,737,000 details

Above his first attack on me..
Now here's my first attack..

01:06 Mathlord Attack defended 3 358,279 241,138 26,435,689,940,600 29,145,085,416,000 details

A whole hour before..I've taken down 100 plus trill defences in far far less time. And he had another advantage, but of course that is merely game mechanics so I can't really complain..he got an automatic war setting with me after my toil of one hour. It was EXTREMELY frustrating happening at the single most opportune time for me as I had and usually have alot of other work to do out of the game.

As for the whole NAP thing, seriously TAF's offer is ridiculous. We didn't give TL, an alliance we actually get along with such a long NAP. I predict this war will drag on and it will come down to who has the most resources. As for Omega, yes the long break has pissed off quite a few and a few have quit for now. We are still reorganising the alliance and the Empire, tbh it gets extremely frustrating when one comes on to play and wham, some new bug ingame, so I can understand why people all want to quit. But our core strength remains, even if a few are away temporarily.