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Mathlord wrote:Two of us saw you massing me after your first 4 attacks on my account. I wasn't repairing until you gave me a war setting. You can pretend that if things were different you'd have sabbed or ac'd me, but coulda shoulda woulda. Besides we had contingencies in place

Mathlord wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:lmao! I'm DAMNED impressed your defence lasted 3 weeks..oops remind me again what was going on in the game?! Sorry lads but counting REAL ingame time and not SHUT DOWN game time, your defences have lasted what? A week if that!

And BMMJ, you are easily impressed. The lag is all that saved Mathlord.

And as for comparing the TA...hmmm would I rather be in an alliance that actually hunts cheats or would I rather be in an alliance that still supports old members who **Filtered** exploited this game big time. So don't come on here crying about the holier than thou TA!

And when I said over 70 percent descended, I wasn't referring to over 70 percent of TAEE, I meant ALL of TAF! TAEE was more like over 90 percent!

And as for the start of this war, I love your revisionist history. Beliblisk I believe it was massed 2 OE members so 3 of us decided to mass TATS. So I guess they went crying to the rest of TAF. lol

Forgot to respond to the rest of this. Two of us saw you massing me after your first 4 attacks on my account. I wasn't repairing until you gave me a war setting. You can pretend that if things were different you'd have sabbed or ac'd me, but coulda shoulda woulda. Besides we had contingencies in place

I actually built my defense a week after the server crashed. I know you don't log in that much ETL, but the servers (aside from this weekend) had actually been pretty good for a few weeks. Not great, but they have been up. Certainly enough for me to be able to mass you guys whenever you build...

And now you bring up the ancient history. Do you really want me to remind you how your alliance used many of the exact same exploits you despised, how you bought accounts off cheaters, let in scammers (even though you hate scammers and cheaters), extorted TA players and hacked forum accounts? How you would abuse a "bug" in the game until others started doing it then you'd call it a bug (whereas before it was a feature) and had it changed? How whenever something doesn't look like it's going your way, you find a way to change the game so you have a better chance of winning? Your history is full of bending the rules to fit your will and the will of the Omegan Empire and you have the nerve to insult my alliance's reputation...

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:

Mathlord wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:lmao! I'm DAMNED impressed your defence lasted 3 weeks..oops remind me again what was going on in the game?! Sorry lads but counting REAL ingame time and not SHUT DOWN game time, your defences have lasted what? A week if that!

And BMMJ, you are easily impressed. The lag is all that saved Mathlord.

And as for comparing the TA...hmmm would I rather be in an alliance that actually hunts cheats or would I rather be in an alliance that still supports old members who **Filtered** exploited this game big time. So don't come on here crying about the holier than thou TA!

And when I said over 70 percent descended, I wasn't referring to over 70 percent of TAEE, I meant ALL of TAF! TAEE was more like over 90 percent!

And as for the start of this war, I love your revisionist history. Beliblisk I believe it was massed 2 OE members so 3 of us decided to mass TATS. So I guess they went crying to the rest of TAF. lol

Forgot to respond to the rest of this. Two of us saw you massing me after your first 4 attacks on my account. I wasn't repairing until you gave me a war setting. You can pretend that if things were different you'd have sabbed or ac'd me, but coulda shoulda woulda. Besides we had contingencies in place

I actually built my defense a week after the server crashed. I know you don't log in that much ETL, but the servers (aside from this weekend) had actually been pretty good for a few weeks. Not great, but they have been up. Certainly enough for me to be able to mass you guys whenever you build...

And now you bring up the ancient history. Do you really want me to remind you how your alliance used many of the exact same exploits you despised, how you bought accounts off cheaters, let in scammers (even though you hate scammers and cheaters), extorted TA players and hacked forum accounts? How you would abuse a "bug" in the game until others started doing it then you'd call it a bug (whereas before it was a feature) and had it changed? How whenever something doesn't look like it's going your way, you find a way to change the game so you have a better chance of winning? Your history is full of bending the rules to fit your will and the will of the Omegan Empire and you have the nerve to insult my alliance's reputation...

Oh yeah? Whose account did I buy? Hacked forum accounts? Are you such a noob that you haven't realised what actually happened? Ask Robe what actually happened before you talk rubbish. And as for bugs, no Omegan has ever used a bug unpunished, whereas I do seem to recall your ENTIRE former leadership exploited perhaps the greatest 'bug' to make billions when 10 million was alot of naq. Hearsay doesn't get you any points and if you think admin was foolish enough to let the OE get away with bugs, you shouldn't be playing this supposedly OE game. You mouth off alot with no real knowledge of what goes on.

Mathlord wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:

Mathlord wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:lmao! I'm DAMNED impressed your defence lasted 3 weeks..oops remind me again what was going on in the game?! Sorry lads but counting REAL ingame time and not SHUT DOWN game time, your defences have lasted what? A week if that!

And BMMJ, you are easily impressed. The lag is all that saved Mathlord.

And as for comparing the TA...hmmm would I rather be in an alliance that actually hunts cheats or would I rather be in an alliance that still supports old members who **Filtered** exploited this game big time. So don't come on here crying about the holier than thou TA!

And when I said over 70 percent descended, I wasn't referring to over 70 percent of TAEE, I meant ALL of TAF! TAEE was more like over 90 percent!

And as for the start of this war, I love your revisionist history. Beliblisk I believe it was massed 2 OE members so 3 of us decided to mass TATS. So I guess they went crying to the rest of TAF. lol

Forgot to respond to the rest of this. Two of us saw you massing me after your first 4 attacks on my account. I wasn't repairing until you gave me a war setting. You can pretend that if things were different you'd have sabbed or ac'd me, but coulda shoulda woulda. Besides we had contingencies in place

I actually built my defense a week after the server crashed. I know you don't log in that much ETL, but the servers (aside from this weekend) had actually been pretty good for a few weeks. Not great, but they have been up. Certainly enough for me to be able to mass you guys whenever you build...

And now you bring up the ancient history. Do you really want me to remind you how your alliance used many of the exact same exploits you despised, how you bought accounts off cheaters, let in scammers (even though you hate scammers and cheaters), extorted TA players and hacked forum accounts? How you would abuse a "bug" in the game until others started doing it then you'd call it a bug (whereas before it was a feature) and had it changed? How whenever something doesn't look like it's going your way, you find a way to change the game so you have a better chance of winning? Your history is full of bending the rules to fit your will and the will of the Omegan Empire and you have the nerve to insult my alliance's reputation...

Oh yeah? Whose account did I buy? Hacked forum accounts? Are you such a noob that you haven't realised what actually happened? Ask Robe what actually happened before you talk rubbish. And as for bugs, no Omegan has ever used a bug unpunished, whereas I do seem to recall your ENTIRE former leadership exploited perhaps the greatest 'bug' to make billions when 10 million was alot of naq. Hearsay doesn't get you any points and if you think admin was foolish enough to let the OE get away with bugs, you shouldn't be playing this supposedly OE game. You mouth off alot with no real knowledge of what goes on.

You know...there's something really important about what you said...FORMER alliance leadership. Were they in TA when they did these things? Nope...did any of TA have anything to do with them then? Nope...actually they threatened to mass TA cause they thought we were stealing their name from them

The forum account hacked was mine...one of probably many...I know the real reason you could spy on most alliance forums, and it wasn't having spies in every HC

This is stupid, take your whooping like a man and come back to fight another day. Or would you rather complain then go to vac mode?

Norbe wrote:(Mostly aimed @ ETL)

There is one final point I would like to make, whilst I am here. There are many themes that repeat themselves throughout this games history. One of those is the rise and fall of powerful alliances and empires. Our two alliances are the oldest remaining in this game, we have both stood the test of time and we have both maintained a great deal of active and powerful players for the last 6+ years. Only our two alliances can make those claims.

As with any long standing establishments, both our alliances have had our ups and downs, and there are things in both of our alliance's histories that we can forever bicker about. Ultimately it comes down to two things that our alliances have both done that few others have - survived and prospered. I wholeheartedly respect you and Omega for everything you have achieved over the years, despite the constant battles between our alliances. Equally you should realise that the only way an alliance can have survived for as long as we have, is ultimately by being a damn good alliance; one that people are proud to be part of. It is a testament to all of the past leaders of both sides that we are even here and able to battle each other after so long.

With that all said, perhaps instead of throwing around accusations of past crimes, we can respect that our alliances survived over the years and simply accept this war is here for it's own reasons. Though as I suspect this is a concept you will simply be unable to comprehend, TÅF shall just keep making more 0's in Omega.

~Norbe~

Mathlord wrote:Ah but every account in Omega that has built has been 0'd many times recently...can you all say the same?

BMMJ13 wrote:Fact is we are keeping our defenses and you aren't. Every omegan who has built up has either been 0'd or forced onto ppt soon after coming off ppt, where as we have been able to defend attacks on us or have log watchers defend them. Multiple omegans have tried Mathlord but he has stopped the attack in all cases and more often than not turned it around and destroyed the opponent. I haven't been touched at all in the past 3 weeks since I came off vacation. Huxley tried to mass King Pin but we alliance repaired and someone else jumped on Huxley and got him down. On the flip side, just yesterday two omegans were either sabbed out or massed while they were online and both lost about 50 mil spies. You yourself talk big ETL, however you had a 20 bil defense for the past 3 weeks before you built up, either out of choice or inactivity. For how much you complain about sniping, you sure do a lot of it.

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:

Mathlord wrote:Ah but every account in Omega that has built has been 0'd many times RECENTLY...can you all say the same?

Are you actually claiming never to have been zeroed in this war?

Mathlord wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:

Mathlord wrote:Ah but every account in Omega that has built has been 0'd many times RECENTLY...can you all say the same?

Are you actually claiming never to have been zeroed in this war?

Read the posts please...

Rudy Pena wrote:

Mathlord wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:YOou guys were the one who declared war on OE. You guys started the war, causing both empires not to have a "breather".

As Norbe said, yes we declared on OE...after three Omegans decided to declare war on TATS AND earlier in the week (or the previous week depending on your definition of week lol) three TA members were massed by Omegans for light farming of OE (while OE thought it was okay to turn farm our alliances)

We've never asked for unfair treatment for TAF. Only that if you farm us, we farm you. If you mass us, we mass you. Simple as that. We're very reasonable if you treat us with the same standards you yourself expect to be treated. That's why we suggest long NAPs. To prevent these problems from starting. If you farm us, we will show up in your logs. If you mass us for that, well what do you know.

Kinda funny, cause before this war started, I was farming TAAE with people who had 0 defs for months and close to 0 defs cause they were inactive.

DI, took it upon himself to threaten to mass me and then mini massed me for massing over half his alliance, which were inactive for many months. Seeing, as how I never massed him or TAAE, just farming. So you guys also do mass first.

sarparto wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:

Mathlord wrote:

Rudy Pena wrote:YOou guys were the one who declared war on OE. You guys started the war, causing both empires not to have a "breather".

As Norbe said, yes we declared on OE...after three Omegans decided to declare war on TATS AND earlier in the week (or the previous week depending on your definition of week lol) three TA members were massed by Omegans for light farming of OE (while OE thought it was okay to turn farm our alliances)

We've never asked for unfair treatment for TAF. Only that if you farm us, we farm you. If you mass us, we mass you. Simple as that. We're very reasonable if you treat us with the same standards you yourself expect to be treated. That's why we suggest long NAPs. To prevent these problems from starting. If you farm us, we will show up in your logs. If you mass us for that, well what do you know.

Kinda funny, cause before this war started, I was farming TAAE with people who had 0 defs for months and close to 0 defs cause they were inactive.

DI, took it upon himself to threaten to mass me and then mini massed me for massing over half his alliance, which were inactive for many months. Seeing, as how I never massed him or TAAE, just farming. So you guys also do mass first.

In your words DI mini massed you after you massed over half of TAAE and that shows that we mass first? Really, did you really just type that?