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Re: some question as to the validety of conspiracys and....

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:08 pm
by Thriller
[KMA]Avenger wrote:putting ALL conspiracy's aside, anyone of us could do a better job of running a nation and whats going on in the the entire world is not good at all :(

maybe some people have mistaken my intentions in all this...i would sooner be happier being proved wrong than right because as i've said before, if myself and all the other people who believe as i do are proved wrong with time then there is no harm or foul, simply a waste of mine and others time.

if on the other hand i am proved right, then the future is grim to say the least, so i think its in everyones best interest to find out for themselves.

i cant speak for others who believe as i do but i would prefer to be proved wrong for the reasons i have stated above.


i HIGHLY recommend people watch these films, their more of an education than a film:

the corporation.
america, freedom to fascism.
the money masters.
endgame, blueprint for global enslavement.
the 4th world war.


theres so many more factual based independent films like those above but i think anyone who watches those with an open mind will be moved enough to research for themselves and see if what they say in those films in correct or not.



that's some pretty dumb reasoning you got their, "i could be wrong, but if i am its all good, but if i'm right well then were screwed) Then lets just assume the sun is going to explode tomorrow or maybe i should stop driving because i have 1% chance of dying...... A fact a life involves proper distribution of your resources. I aim all for free expression of ideas but all your claims have been proven wrong so many times, it is you that should be doing more of the research. Putting stock in your unfounded mind bogglingly unsupported unsubstantiated ideas is a waste. I'm going to drive my damn car, drink my tap water, and believe in my government system (that is working) until i find "real" evidence to the contrary for not doing any of it.

Re: some question as to the validety of conspiracys and....

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:16 pm
by [KMA]Avenger
proven wrong by who? :?

your government is working...EXCUSE ME?? :? :? are you serious :? :shock: :?
wall street and corporate criminals have looted all the pension funds and and the economy and these corporate criminal bosses have had MASSIVE payouts as well as small investors having their money stolen and left with worthless stocks and bonds and not a single 1 of these criminal bosses is going to be held account, tried or convicted. not only that, these criminals are sitting on a beach in the bahamas sipping cocktails, and none will be held to account by the government and you say your government is working?

the constitution is also being torn out by its roots by king george, and you still think the government is working?? :? :?

your founding fathers warned us all this was coming and you still think this is just a hiccup??? :? :shock:

i cannot fathom just how close minded a person must be to not see the warning signs!

did you even bother to try and understand what i said or did you just read and post?

the figures being bounced around for all these bailouts and bad debts is staggering to the imagination, and you people think everything is OK????

just who is going to pay all these debts off, you??


no one will be held to account, thats a conspiracy in broad daylight right there!

Re: some question as to the validety of conspiracys and....

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:00 am
by Thriller
I'll tell you again.... i'm not American

and its not the system that's failing... its the people who are failing the system. You are the one not understanding what I'm saying

Re: some question as to the validety of conspiracys and....

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:01 am
by [KMA]Avenger
my bad for thinking your american BUT....when are you people going to take the blinkers off and realize that we are witnessing legalized robbery and therefor...THE SYSTEM IS FAULTY NO MATTER WHO IS IN OFFICE!

or should i not be asking "when" but "if" you have intentions of taking off the blinkers??

Re: some question as to the validety of conspiracys and....

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:22 am
by Thriller
if i take the blinkers off people won't know when i'm turning

Re: some question as to the validety of conspiracys and....

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:54 am
by [KMA]Avenger
haha, touché! :D

Re: some question as to the validety of conspiracys and....

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:59 pm
by Demeisen
kma you drama queen :smt061

you are always thinking the worst. you believe the most outlandish ideas. and its clear you love to believe in every silly theory going. if you search for proof you will find the proof, regardless of its credibility.

in short, you cant be taken seriously anymore.

and whats with calling everyone closed minded? seems arrogant saying all who dont think as you are closed minded?

no man or woman is infallible. yet you never admit to yourself the chance you are really wrong. is that closed minded?

you are like a sea wall around the sea of truth. the waves of reality and fact bounce off you.

[KMA]Avenger wrote:close minded


did amir khan teach you to fail mate? :lol:

Re: some question as to the validety of conspiracys and....

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:45 pm
by [KMA]Avenger
you know what your problem is mate? obviously you don't since you DON'T listen or pay attention!

you want to know my sources?

fine! my sources are the people at the top themselves who have written these things themselves.
none of this is opinion, they have written these things and hidden them in plain sight.

if you want to see for your self, then go read the PNAC document (project for a new american centuary) as well as David Rockefeller's biography. read them from cover to cover and you will see from the horses mouth just what they have been planning (and which has come to pass) and what is coming.

but you would probably dismiss those as fairy tales as well...

whose the one living in dreamland mate??

btw, can i ask what knowledge base and sources you base your counter arguments on, sky news, CNN, BBC, ITN, the sun, the mirror, the telegraph, the times, school education and so on.

are those your sources?

Re: some question as to the validety of conspiracys and....

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:22 am
by urogard
[KMA]Avenger wrote:btw, can i ask what knowledge base and sources you base your counter arguments on, sky news, CNN, BBC, ITN, the sun, the mirror, the telegraph, the times, school education and so on.

are those your sources?

Chinese media reported that civilian troublemakers incited riots in Tibet and that the chinese army was sent to restore peace.
Chinese Intelligence confirmed these reports.

Sounds funny?
[spoiler]And now exchange:
1) chinese for american
2) civilian troublemakers incited riots in tibet for terrorists exploded bombs in iraq[/spoiler]

So yes I bet liquids sources are extremely precice because all the media outlets report the same thing (doesn't matter that they are part of one big corporate group XD).

Re: some question as to the validety of conspiracys and....

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:56 pm
by Demeisen
i have more sauces than a little chef restaurant.

and no i dont get all my information from the same sources. i look at several sides. but i avoid the stupid ones that scream unfounded claims again and again and again. . .

urogard wrote:So yes I bet liquids sources are extremely precice

thanks man :-D

[KMA]Avenger wrote:fine! my sources are the people at the top themselves who have written these things themselves.
none of this is opinion, they have written these things and hidden them in plain sight.

people at the top? God?
if they wrote it, it is their opinion. so yes, it is opinion.
hidden in plain sight? what like in the back of a library or something?

[KMA]Avenger wrote:whose the one living in dreamland mate??


*points at kma*

Re: some question as to the validety of conspiracys and....

Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:35 pm
by Colton
As always KMA, a good long read :D


OFF-TOPIC: I just learned in Social Studies 11 today what some Americans think of Canada/Britain's Healthcare system, as a result of this realization I am now giving free rides on my personal ROFLCOPTER :-D

Re: some question as to the validety of conspiracys and....

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:54 am
by [KMA]Avenger
LiQuiD wrote:i have more sauces than a little chef restaurant.

and no i dont get all my information from the same sources. i look at several sides. but i avoid the stupid ones that scream unfounded claims again and again and again. . .

urogard wrote:So yes I bet liquids sources are extremely precice

thanks man :-D

[KMA]Avenger wrote:fine! my sources are the people at the top themselves who have written these things themselves.
none of this is opinion, they have written these things and hidden them in plain sight.

people at the top? God?
if they wrote it, it is their opinion. so yes, it is opinion.
hidden in plain sight? what like in the back of a library or something?

[KMA]Avenger wrote:whose the one living in dreamland mate??


*points at kma*


i say "people at the top" and you ask if i'm referring to "God", if your definition of "God" is "people" then you need to reevaluate your education!
if i wanted to say "God" i would have said "the one at the top".

do you SERIOUSLY think that when Mayer Amschel Rothschild said "give me control of a nations money and i care not who writes her laws" he was just flapping his lips for the lack of anything better to say?

answer me this...

when a government (anyone will do) has to borrow money from a PRIVATELY owned bank, does that government remain a master of the land its governing? or does that government NOT in fact become a slave to the privately owned central bank of the land?

also answer me this...

a central bank of a land WILL NOT borrow money to its government UNLESS the debt will be secured by a direct taxation on the people of that land (which is why we have a national debt), do we not in fact become slaves, and the chains of our enslavement come in the form of the debt that the people owe to its central bank?

its a non-debatable fact that the national debt to the central bank never comes down, (with the few exceptions in americas history were by the had a president who saw the dangers of a central bank and did their absolute best to crush the debt) and that war is the biggest debt generator of them all. how do expect the people to pay its debt to the central banks when their is talk of a hundred year war?
how much more debt will we be in-in 100 years times??

it is also a non-debatable fact that the total debt of the worlds governments now far exceeds the resources of the world, and the worlds population do NOT have ability to pay back the privately owned central banks, the debts which are owed!

can you not see the danger in all this? :?

i give you credit and do not look at you as some dumb sheep just following the herd, and so i presume you know all this and yet you STILL fail to realize just who is pulling the strings! :? :? :?

i look at the assassinations of Abe Lincoln, JFK his brother as well as MLK (Martin Luther King, who was bob Kennedy's running mate), and think how much better the world would have been, instead we had the likes of LBJ, Nixon, Carter, Reagen, Clinton and both Bushes...do you even know the family history of the Bushes?

you should do, i have given you all the information...if you bothered to read it!

do you know how they made their fortune, do you even know that they are some of the biggest gangsters, murderers and drug lords in the world??

do you know that GWB is the queen of englands cousin? (9th or 13th cousins twice removed, cant remember).

your NEVER going to give any credibility to conspiracy so long as you remain ignorant of history and how the gold smiths of the ancient world became the money changers of the roman empire and evolved into the modern days banking elite who are the REAL power in the world and the western governments and organizations such as the CFR, NATO and the UN are mere fronts and puppets.

the worlds economy is going down the crapper and we are not far off from global enslavement and martial law, now you can laugh and ridicule me all you like, but i am not some crazed drama queen whose obsessed with pointing fingers at our leaders just for the sake of it, you think i don't know how crazy all this sounds?!?!

you have no idea of the true history of the world, you don't even know resent history, and if you think you do you are only misinformed because you have been educated by the elite and your not meant to know that, otherwise there is no way you would be able to miss the GIANT conspiracy which is to keep you dumbed down and not ask questions of the people you should be asking, our leaders!

these are serious matters which deserve a hell of allot more attention than its getting, if there is even smallest doubt as to the credibility of our leaders then that matter should be looked at closely because the ramifications of such a doubt are to serious to ignore and yet that is EXACTLY what happens, our leaders are liars, thats undeniable, do we hold them to account?
we do not, and the failure of our governments is OUR failure because it is the duty and right of the people to hold world leaders and governments to account, not sit back and dream of the next gen gaming console and big screen TV's.

will you look at this post for what it is...a warning, i SERIOUSLY doubt it, you will dissect it as usual and ask me questions instead of THINKING that what i say here has some merit and therefore deserves MUCH more attention than you give it, and that we have failed to hold our leaders to account for their biggest crime of all, lying to the people its meant to serve!

there are direct questions which i have asked above that demand answers so please give me your response to those first.