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Re: Abortion
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:38 pm
by Ridd1ck
I agree with my friend Spyridon. One CHRISTAIN article saying porn leads to rape is BS. I was a cop for seven years and have worked hundreds of rape case across 3 States. NEVER was one tied to the perp watching porn. Never have I ever heard of a case being tied to porn.
You want to go off one article, I can pull up HUNDREDS that said Y2K was the end of the world.....But OH YEAH, I'm talking to you from Iraq on a perfectly working (sort of) COMPUTER LAPTOP.........Don't believe everything you read especially from a bias religious finding.
Re: Abortion
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:46 pm
by Mister Sandman
Spyridon wrote:
Nah, you serious? You try to support your claim using an excerpt of an article that's posted on a Christian website without the rest of the context and also that isn't proven scientifically with studies done by universities? Instead you have to report what one single individual who loved to play with people's minds? The police when questioning him about the Green River Killer had to make sure that what ever he said he was saying as truthfully as he could.
I don't know about you but I deal with scientific facts.
I shall wait after this until Thriller replies back as I am greatly interested in what he will write.
1. Q:What social class founded/advice to create most universities and places of learning? A:The religious bodies.
2. A different source. To be honest I used the first link I had. Didn't even see it as a Christian site.
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/jan/09012705.htmlhttp://www.pureintimacy.org/piArticles/A000000433.cfmhttp://www.channel4.com/health/microsites/T/ted_bundy/http://www.boundless.org/2005/articles/a0001949.cfm3. Youtube Pornography and sex: Ted Bundy's fatal addiction, watch the interview yourself.
4. There are countless cases that pornography was the starting point of many crimes. Every crime has a reason,.
Re: Abortion
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:57 pm
by Deaths_Rider
a porn addiction is not the cuase of any crime it is mearly a symptom of a bigger underlying issue saying otherwise puts you in the same boat as thoose that would outlaw violent video game and marylin manson because they cause school shooting it's faulty "we need someone to blame" logic.
Re: Abortion
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:42 am
by Mister Sandman
Deaths_Rider wrote:a porn addiction is not the cuase of any crime it is mearly a symptom of a bigger underlying issue saying otherwise puts you in the same boat as thoose that would outlaw violent video game and marylin manson because they cause school shooting it's faulty "we need someone to blame" logic.
More like finding the cause, fixing it, thus preventing the crime in the future, thus, not needing abominations such as abortion. It isn't that we need someone to blame, its obvious who the blame, the offender. However, whatever shaped that offender to be psychotic and mentally warped needs to be treated. So, outside forces would not create such being.
We don't need abortions, they are irresponsible, and plain unacceptable.
Re: Abortion
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:05 am
by Deaths_Rider
yes abortion for birth control or unwanted pregnency is irrisponsible but for a valid medical reason such as both mother and baby will die then is it really murder if one life is exchanged for another.
(think on your other belifs before answering this)
as for finding the cause of problems things like porn and violent video games may well attract rapists and killers but they are not the cause
Re: Abortion
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:04 am
by Rudy Peña
Mister Sandman wrote:Spyridon wrote:
Nah, you serious? You try to support your claim using an excerpt of an article that's posted on a Christian website without the rest of the context and also that isn't proven scientifically with studies done by universities? Instead you have to report what one single individual who loved to play with people's minds? The police when questioning him about the Green River Killer had to make sure that what ever he said he was saying as truthfully as he could.
I don't know about you but I deal with scientific facts.
I shall wait after this until Thriller replies back as I am greatly interested in what he will write.
1. Q:What social class founded/advice to create most universities and places of learning? A:The religious bodies.
2. A different source. To be honest I used the first link I had. Didn't even see it as a Christian site.
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/jan/09012705.htmlhttp://www.pureintimacy.org/piArticles/A000000433.cfmhttp://www.channel4.com/health/microsites/T/ted_bundy/http://www.boundless.org/2005/articles/a0001949.cfm3. Youtube Pornography and sex: Ted Bundy's fatal addiction, watch the interview yourself.
4. There are countless cases that pornography was the starting point of many crimes. Every crime has a reason,.
I watch tons of tons of porn. I have never commited any kind of crimes or raped someone
Re: Abortion
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:21 am
by Kit-Fox
But apparently you want too & your social trash according to Sandman and you need to be castrated to protect society from your evil urges
Re: Abortion
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:56 am
by Rudy Peña
Kit-Fox wrote:But apparently you want too & your social trash according to Sandman and you need to be castrated to protect society from your evil urges
lol, I would blow my head off if even I had any kind of thoughts like that or urges.
Re: Abortion
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:58 am
by Ashu
Mister Sandman wrote:Deaths_Rider wrote:a porn addiction is not the cuase of any crime it is mearly a symptom of a bigger underlying issue saying otherwise puts you in the same boat as thoose that would outlaw violent video game and marylin manson because they cause school shooting it's faulty "we need someone to blame" logic.
More like finding the cause, fixing it, thus preventing the crime in the future, thus, not needing abominations such as abortion. It isn't that we need someone to blame, its obvious who the blame, the offender. However, whatever shaped that offender to be psychotic and mentally warped needs to be treated. So, outside forces would not create such being.
We don't need abortions, they are irresponsible, and plain unacceptable.
I completely agree with you!Their not a solution rather a mild "fix" for an unwated event...
Re: Abortion
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:12 am
by Brdavs
All for it.
a) its a womans body/choice and b) when we start respecting all actual human life allready in existance and ensure everyone a decent existance, then we can talk embrios. But as long as millions starve couple of dozen villagers with no relevant western passports are acceptable collateral damage andwe fry retards on the chair... lets not BS about the "sanctity of life". Theres apparently nothing holly about it when you look around the planet. And humorously enough, the proponets of "life" in this case are most likely to be friggin undertakers in others.
Re: Abortion
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:27 pm
by Thriller
Brdavs wrote:All for it.
a) its a womans body/choice and b) when we start respecting all actual human life allready in existance and ensure everyone a decent existance, then we can talk embrios. But as long as millions starve couple of dozen villagers with no relevant western passports are acceptable collateral damage andwe fry retards on the chair... lets not BS about the "sanctity of life". Theres apparently nothing holly about it when you look around the planet. And humorously enough, the proponets of "life" in this case are most likely to be friggin undertakers in others.
Blasphemy!!!! BURN the Witch...
Re: Abortion
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:52 pm
by Mister Sandman
Thriller wrote:Brdavs wrote:All for it.
a) its a womans body/choice and b) when we start respecting all actual human life allready in existance and ensure everyone a decent existance, then we can talk embrios. But as long as millions starve couple of dozen villagers with no relevant western passports are acceptable collateral damage andwe fry retards on the chair... lets not BS about the "sanctity of life". Theres apparently nothing holly about it when you look around the planet. And humorously enough, the proponets of "life" in this case are most likely to be friggin undertakers in others.
Blasphemy!!!! BURN the Witch...
already got the kindling...
1) as stated before, abortion is murder of the very innocent. so yes, it may be her choice, but it is also normal persons choice not to murder or murder.
2.Yes, we need to treat everyone equally, there is no lesser or greater ... people are just people.
Australia doesn't partake in capital punishment so we dont have the problem of capital punishment.
There is holiness left, you are just, most of us, are too blind to see it. To the point we (un)consciously attempt to destroy, defile and ruin it.
as Life itself is holy. Abortion is another attempt to destroy life before it is meant to be taken.
Re: Abortion
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:31 pm
by xXxsephirothxXx
I personally agree with abortion... i honestly believe its just ridiculous how people complain about "murdering" something that isn't born yet.. i don't really want to go into detail about my full views on the subject, as i can honestly say i wouldn't be able to represent it to justice in a forum and would probably get criticized for not explaining every second word... and basically i would be here all day...
But yes, simply put its the mothers choice in my opinion.
Re: Abortion
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:58 am
by Ridd1ck
xXxsephirothxXx wrote:I personally agree with abortion... i honestly believe its just ridiculous how people complain about "murdering" something that isn't born yet.. i don't really want to go into detail about my full views on the subject, as i can honestly say i wouldn't be able to represent it to justice in a forum and would probably get criticized for not explaining every second word... and basically i would be here all day...
But yes, simply put its the mothers choice in my opinion.
Not as a means of birth control because she was to lazy.
Re: Abortion
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:59 am
by Mister Sandman
Lonewolf1968 wrote:xXxsephirothxXx wrote:I personally agree with abortion... i honestly believe its just ridiculous how people complain about "murdering" something that isn't born yet.. i don't really want to go into detail about my full views on the subject, as i can honestly say i wouldn't be able to represent it to justice in a forum and would probably get criticized for not explaining every second word... and basically i would be here all day...
But yes, simply put its the mothers choice in my opinion.
Not as a means of birth control because she was to lazy.
How do you draw the line? It is easier, and more logical to draw the line at conception.