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Feri wrote:Have you even seen what current plague rates are to say that it is not enough? or should it simply be so high as to be plague itself massing me? Where were you complaints when High Empty was 712m natural army with no mercs under old plague rules? Plague has much much bigger losses than before.

maybe thats because it was in your empire you didn't see it as an issue?

Feri wrote:Have you even seen what current plague rates are to say that it is not enough? or should it simply be so high as to be plague itself massing me? Where were you complaints when High Empty was 712m natural army with no mercs under old plague rules? Plague has much much bigger losses than before.

maybe thats because it was in your empire you didn't see it as an issue?

Duderanch wrote:

Feri wrote:Have you even seen what current plague rates are to say that it is not enough? or should it simply be so high as to be plague itself massing me? Where were you complaints when High Empty was 712m natural army with no mercs under old plague rules? Plague has much much bigger losses than before.

maybe thats because it was in your empire you didn't see it as an issue?

I was just thinking, was plague rates not updated like a few weeks ago? Hence why Feri isn't over 1Bill army still?He was losing like 10mill a day...

Kikaz wrote:

Duderanch wrote:

Feri wrote:Have you even seen what current plague rates are to say that it is not enough? or should it simply be so high as to be plague itself massing me? Where were you complaints when High Empty was 712m natural army with no mercs under old plague rules? Plague has much much bigger losses than before.

maybe thats because it was in your empire you didn't see it as an issue?

I was just thinking, was plague rates not updated like a few weeks ago? Hence why Feri isn't over 1Bill army still?He was losing like 10mill a day...

This...

Kikaz wrote:Plague just got updated 2 weeks ago, it doubles every 200m army past plague limit.

700m 4x plague
900m 8x plague
1.1 bill 16x plague

Tekki wrote:

Kikaz wrote:

Duderanch wrote:

Feri wrote:Have you even seen what current plague rates are to say that it is not enough? or should it simply be so high as to be plague itself massing me? Where were you complaints when High Empty was 712m natural army with no mercs under old plague rules? Plague has much much bigger losses than before.

maybe thats because it was in your empire you didn't see it as an issue?

I was just thinking, was plague rates not updated like a few weeks ago? Hence why Feri isn't over 1Bill army still?He was losing like 10mill a day...

This...

Kikaz, Duderanch... I'm sorry to say but neither of you are nuetral in this affair, given that you are in the same alliance as Fericide. While your desire to back up your alliance mate is admiral, your strict nuetrality is in doubt.

Plague limits are opinions though, and in the opinion of some they are high enough, in the opinion of others it is not.

stuff of legends wrote:

Kikaz wrote:Plague just got updated 2 weeks ago, it doubles every 200m army past plague limit.

700m 4x plague
900m 8x plague
1.1 bill 16x plague

try again....

Fine Tuning
Plague now increases the death rate the further you are over the plague threshold (doubles each 300M over the threshold).

533 mill-833 mill plague is normal
833 mill-1,113 mill plague is double.

Kikaz wrote:

stuff of legends wrote:

Kikaz wrote:Plague just got updated 2 weeks ago, it doubles every 200m army past plague limit.

700m 4x plague
900m 8x plague
1.1 bill 16x plague

try again....

Fine Tuning
Plague now increases the death rate the further you are over the plague threshold (doubles each 300M over the threshold).

533 mill-833 mill plague is normal
833 mill-1,113 mill plague is double.

Well it got changed again then because it was every 200m the day it released.

stuff of legends wrote:

Kikaz wrote:

stuff of legends wrote:

Kikaz wrote:Plague just got updated 2 weeks ago, it doubles every 200m army past plague limit.

700m 4x plague
900m 8x plague
1.1 bill 16x plague

try again....

Fine Tuning
Plague now increases the death rate the further you are over the plague threshold (doubles each 300M over the threshold).

533 mill-833 mill plague is normal
833 mill-1,113 mill plague is double.

Well it got changed again then because it was every 200m the day it released.

I know amazing isnt it? after 'mercs count for half' was reversed, plague was automagically made to double every 300 mill.

Tekki wrote:C2's defence, at 100trillion ish was not impossible to mass as you did not have to commit your entire army to do it.

Currently, sorry Fericide your defence, requires approximately 500million plus supers to mass. That's an account at plague, with no lifers and no covert. Sorry, that's set up especially. Even if you use multiple accounts, it can't be sabbed. Sending in 286million spies, only gives you 14 sabs if your army is at 500million to start with. What I find somewhat interesting, is that many of the people who are arguing that this is okay are either NAP’d with Fericide, or are Fericide’s officers. Independent, not.

There are not many bigger accounts.

The issue though is not merely the defence, which while it is a challenge, presents a challenge that is simply impossible for most of the game accounts, but also the plague is an issue. The limit size was updated, the amoutn was not. As the UP's ingame went up, so too should have the plague rate.

It did not and while something has been put in now, it is not yet strong enough. Officer UP should be removed once you reach plague because at that limit, you should be more than able to stand on your own. And if you wish to have officers for other reasons, then that's fine, at that size, you can offer other inducements.

E.M.P. wrote:What it comes down to is ... after everything Feri has put into UP to get as far beyond Plague as he is, he deserves what he has. A huge army size. There is nothing wrong with the game, and nothing needs to be changed.

You're trying to make Plague mass his defense down, which is unfair. If you think the existence of a 200tril defense is unfair, which it isn't, then suggest something about defenses, not Plague. Feri put a ton of resources into his UP, it would be unfair for someone who hasn't put as much in it as him to be able to mass his defense (which he obtained by beating Plague).

Robe wrote:

Tekki wrote:C2's defence, at 100trillion ish was not impossible to mass as you did not have to commit your entire army to do it.

Currently, sorry Fericide your defence, requires approximately 500million plus supers to mass. That's an account at plague, with no lifers and no covert. Sorry, that's set up especially. Even if you use multiple accounts, it can't be sabbed. Sending in 286million spies, only gives you 14 sabs if your army is at 500million to start with. What I find somewhat interesting, is that many of the people who are arguing that this is okay are either NAP’d with Fericide, or are Fericide’s officers. Independent, not.

There are not many bigger accounts.

The issue though is not merely the defence, which while it is a challenge, presents a challenge that is simply impossible for most of the game accounts, but also the plague is an issue. The limit size was updated, the amoutn was not. As the UP's ingame went up, so too should have the plague rate.

It did not and while something has been put in now, it is not yet strong enough. Officer UP should be removed once you reach plague because at that limit, you should be more than able to stand on your own. And if you wish to have officers for other reasons, then that's fine, at that size, you can offer other inducements.