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Re: robert vs FS

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:55 pm
by MEZZANINE
CCexy wrote:If FS a mistake has been made internally it happens perhaps publically it being realised will help smooth over things here on the forum and let us cool our heads down

Now Im not a diplomat HOWEVER if fs would like a chit chat u can pm me about this not going to full out war if thats wat u would like frankly who here wants 3 year war again? we can do it for sure both sides are very stubborn we know that Im proud to be stubborn but if you think of the best for the game is a year plus war in the games interests no.....

CC



From the difference between what MLH has posted here and what she posted in our forum at the time I think it has become clear that this dispute and bad feeling over the way the NAP ended IS down to a miscommunication within FS, we thought it had been cancelled. For that on behalf of FS I apologise, we pride ourselves on sticking to our word and it was never our intention to break an agreement.

If you would like an official statement ending the NAP, and to let the 14 days notice run from today ( NO hits by either side for 14 days while we cool off and arrange 1-v-1s and Team battles ), then I would be happy to do that.

BUT

On the issue of farming we will NOT back down, we can cannot allow DDE to farm us, while we get massed if we farm back, us being farmed and not being able to farm back was the reason we tried to agree a farming deal, and the reason we decided to end the NAP. Threads like this one, and Roberts attacks only escalate issues towards what we have being trying to avoid.




If DDE and FS can both agree ( publicly to avoid future disputes over what was agreed ) to allow fair farming both ways and resolve any/all issues via Diplo's arranging Team Battles and 1-v-1s with set start/end dates/times and any rules with the best matched players then we can avoid any future bad feelings & endless low stat wars, and hopefully have some fun fights like the ones FS have enjoyed with LV this week.

On this matter I ( as FS Leader ), Coyle ( as FS 2IC ) and FreeSpirit ( As FS Diplo ) can speak on behalf of all FS. xDaku is the FS Team Battle coordinator who would handle the details and scheduling of Team Battles if an agreement is made in principal.

Please can you confirm who can speak on behalf of all DDE, and ask them to consider and reply ASAP

Thank You

Mezz




ps Robert, your right most of DDE have the No AB house bonus, but some leave and rejoin to lose the bonus, and some also have big MSs/Planets that add to def, so occasionally farm hits that seemed fair do end up as losses on the logs ; )

Re: robert vs FS

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:57 pm
by Dexter Morgan™
Guild wrote:well its good to see you took note of what i said and made your setup slightly less silly ;)

well, i was on the PPT and wanted to use thems as miners long as possible ;)

but ya guild it was a lil silly, now its k lulz, well, its as k as it will be for nao :smt043

Re: robert vs FS

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:59 pm
by R0B3RT
ps Robert, your right most of DDE have the No AB house bonus, but some leave and rejoin to lose the bonus, and some also have big MSs/Planets that add to def, so occasionally farm hits that seemed fair do end up as losses on the logs ; )[/quote]
descalah and hugo not leave [-X [-X [-X

you can talk with jt
wolfe is diplomat
i.m trouble maker ;)

Re: robert vs FS

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:11 pm
by Dexter Morgan™
R0B3RT wrote:ps Robert, your right most of DDE have the No AB house bonus, but some leave and rejoin to lose the bonus, and some also have big MSs/Planets that add to def, so occasionally farm hits that seemed fair do end up as losses on the logs ; )
descalah and hugo not leave [-X [-X [-X

you can talk with jt
wolfe is diplomat
i.m trouble maker ;)

lulz rob3rt.....u think noobs in ur attack logs maybe join FS noobs in FS logs all day DDE lol

seriously tho, thanks for the info.....JT is leader, ~Wolve~ is the diplo, and Rob3rt is the noob want join FS got it ;)

p.s. you're an alrite guy when you can take a joke and play a "bad guy" correctly :smt025

@ Mezz - glad to have you as my leader, you make thoughtful posts, that see and respect both sides, and admit when oversites have been made. stand up guy. so ya any BS that is started don't pay attention to it, and stick to what you are doing right and kick sum odin LV butt!!

Re: robert vs FS

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:13 pm
by FreeSpirit
If any DDE official represent has the authority to speak on their behalf I gladly await a name or pm :)

Re: robert vs FS

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:15 pm
by jedi~tank
MEZZANINE wrote:
CCexy wrote:If FS a mistake has been made internally it happens perhaps publically it being realised will help smooth over things here on the forum and let us cool our heads down

Now Im not a diplomat HOWEVER if fs would like a chit chat u can pm me about this not going to full out war if thats wat u would like frankly who here wants 3 year war again? we can do it for sure both sides are very stubborn we know that Im proud to be stubborn but if you think of the best for the game is a year plus war in the games interests no.....

CC



From the difference between what MLH has posted here and what she posted in our forum at the time I think it has become clear that this dispute and bad feeling over the way the NAP ended IS down to a miscommunication within FS, we thought it had been cancelled. For that on behalf of FS I apologise, we pride ourselves on sticking to our word and it was never our intention to break an agreement.

If you would like an official statement ending the NAP, and to let the 14 days notice run from today ( NO hits by either side for 14 days while we cool off and arrange 1-v-1s and Team battles ), then I would be happy to do that.

BUT

On the issue of farming we will NOT back down, we can cannot allow DDE to farm us, while we get massed if we farm back, us being farmed and not being able to farm back was the reason we tried to agree a farming deal, and the reason we decided to end the NAP. Threads like this one, and Roberts attacks only escalate issues towards what we have being trying to avoid.




If DDE and FS can both agree ( publicly to avoid future disputes over what was agreed ) to allow fair farming both ways and resolve any/all issues via Diplo's arranging Team Battles and 1-v-1s with set start/end dates/times and any rules with the best matched players then we can avoid any future bad feelings & endless low stat wars, and hopefully have some fun fights like the ones FS have enjoyed with LV this week.

On this matter I ( as FS Leader ), Coyle ( as FS 2IC ) and FreeSpirit ( As FS Diplo ) can speak on behalf of all FS. xDaku is the FS Team Battle coordinator who would handle the details and scheduling of Team Battles if an agreement is made in principal.

Please can you confirm who can speak on behalf of all DDE, and ask them to consider and reply ASAP

Thank You

Mezz




ps Robert, your right most of DDE have the No AB house bonus, but some leave and rejoin to lose the bonus, and some also have big MSs/Planets that add to def, so occasionally farm hits that seemed fair do end up as losses on the logs ; )

I am the one to deal with on this matter. Enough public grandstanding already, the people have hadvthier fill of it.

Re: robert vs FS

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:57 pm
by Brothers
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm so whats happening then :smt064 :smt064

Re: robert vs FS

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:59 pm
by MEZZANINE
Mods please close

Temp agreement reached while we work together on something longer term to the greater benefit of all

Re: robert vs FS

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:03 pm
by killtacular
:smt014

Re: robert vs FS

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:22 pm
by MajorLeeHurts
MEZZANINE wrote:@ MLH, your name was mentioned because you were in HC and the Diplo who was in contact with JT on FS behalf when the NAP was ended. If you insist then I can dig out your post where you said clearly that the NAP had been dissolved and JT had waved the 14 days notice period, you did say to me in PM that JT wanted to speak to me, but that was separate to the NAP being ended which you posted in the forum, JT is always asking to speak to me but since he doesnt get on MSN until 2am my time we never actually meet up.

If you are now changing your story and saying the NAP wasnt cancelled, first I will have to apologise to JT since I had assumed this was an issue his end from what you previous told us, then I will make you a promise, if your mistake restarts the FS-v-DDE war then I will include your new alliance in that war, you dont get the start something like this and walk away.

@ Robert, you mass for fair farm hits, then we will mass back and war will return, maybe thats OK by you since you have a tasty account and like massing lesser accounts for easy kills, but a good alliance member considers his whole alliance not just his own desires, and war will be bad for most of FS and bad for most of DDE, it will just be a return to the old ways of the few strongest massing all the rest.



NO, You guys wanted the nap gone and FS HC voted to dissolve it without the 14 days notice. That is also what was told to JT after after you commented and the third and final vote you all had on the subject.

Your guys wanted the NAP gone and without notice, end of story.

Dont you even start pointing a finger at me. I have all my logs and pms and a witness so look somewhere else to lay the blame for current issues. [-X I did all I could do to keep the peace between DDE and FS to no avail.

I find it pretty pathetic that you would threaten me by the way.

Re: robert vs FS

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:33 pm
by ~Les Erebus~
MEZZANINE wrote:Mods please close

Temp agreement reached while we work together on something longer term to the greater benefit of all



Please Close??

Re: robert vs FS

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:47 pm
by The Doctor
Locked. PM a General Mod to reopen this when required.

Please keep on topic when this is reopened. Off topic posts will result in warnings.