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First off I am not gonna dismiss my officers until I can go on Vac. mode. As for my caring about them, just ask them all the things I do-do for them, dont go judging what u know not of. As for calling some of us kids. I was probably born before most of ur mothers even hit 18 years of age. So again dont go judging ppl u know not of.

In fact I would almost be doing them a favor-either I dismiss them and they get all the uu back that they would be giving me and now get to keep. Also well lets see--3.5bil a turn times 48 turns = 168bil a day I can buy 200k for that--but then wait now just think where the price of UU is gonna go--ooops no one thought of that huh?

Just remember for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Wait, now if hindsight is 20/20, and hindsight is the outcome of thought process gone wrong, who was thinking what in the beginning.

UU prices just went up-both in naq and $$. Thats the reason for this update. I have no idea as to who suggested, supported, or convinced admin (if anyone did). But the end result is that UU is much more valuable.

Now that you know the why, you have a better idea of the who.

Lord Raf wrote:True - this is a bad update

If this update was made to stop people like JMX from having so many officers that they get a total up of 1.3 million or there abouts a day with a raw of say 100-150K and no planets.

Then why not change it and make it so that you can only recieve in total 2 times your raw up from officers ( all together not each)

That way its still worth having officers ( just a couple), more people would have officers as they would now be spread out more

and the bigger you get the more you can have which is true in RL - the stronger a country is the more they can protect.

Not that i had a problem with what it was and i feel sorry for people like JMX, but i think good things could have been done here to stablise it but instead as stated you might as well remove it cos your now only gonna have officers if you have no income or they are RL friends

Rafici

or

base the amount of officers you have on how big your army size is

eg
10M army size mean you can have 1 officer

20M army size mean you can have 2 officers

250M army size mean you can have 25 officers

maybe the admin is really bored and wants to play a joke on all of us?? Is this the reasoning for the UP update, is admin wanting to get a good laugh for the time being?

Ifrit wrote:as for the lifers sucide mission I believe the majority of the community voted for 'NO i would like to see an alternative solution' (viewtopic.php?f=13&t=107505&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a)
so how the heck did 3:1 ratio get added?

Leaders have CO's yea that got discussed and vote on, majory was in favor.

Officer, Commander and Alliances upate also got discussed, majority again showed favor.

so where is the discussion and voting on the Officer Contribution to Commander Unit Production???

admin wasnt convinced by a poll that the problem of lifer suicide needs addressing as "so few" ppl voted and it doesnt present a problem at all... so giving almost up on convincing him that thats just forum activity, i sugested to him do do a quick statistic check on attacs used in game over a certain period of time.
That gave him an insgiht that there might be something odd with lifer suicide considering other attacks were in milinons of times used, while this one was about 100x used (dunno what time frame he used).

I m only guessing here but from that he visited the poll again, and not being a tipicly radical person(obvius exceptions).. he went for a 3:1 as some middle ground.

Again only guessing the new solution to the problem presented too much work at the time. So if he revisists and still sees that lifer suicide isnt being used(after the rate changed), he ll probably go at it.. but first he tried "improoving" the rate.

@ the up thing, I ve been searching my logs for "key words" with well either too many or too few results so i eneded up backreading the last 2 meets.

While i didnt find any discusion about "nefering" up the closesed i came to it was that he will adreess the a person can be an alliance leader and have a commander issue, and while hes at it he might revisit the cricle issue too.

from the past i remember admin sayn that the "cricles" were never ment to be an ingame feature, so sorta like an anomaly/bug, but since evry1 was using them they were not agianst the rules. And that at one point he might fix them (remember this from discusions when ppl first started doing the cricles..)

so maybe this up thing is his way of "fixing" cricles.. who knows,...

I guess we ll all find out tomorow, thoug like robin said i wouldnt be surprised if tomorows meets were cancled, or if not that, they will at least be heavily supervised by "channel admins" considering the angry mob that is arround

Thus i ask you that if you attend the meeting, and raise your concerns that you do it politely and in an apropriate manor.. cause if there will be screaming all over the place, the chan will get locked(aka no1 can speak) and good luck having a meeting than

cyberblade wrote:UU prices just went up-both in naq and $$. Thats the reason for this update. I have no idea as to who suggested, supported, or convinced admin (if anyone did). But the end result is that UU is much more valuable.

Now that you know the why, you have a better idea of the who.

my money is on this reason
The other updates are fine, good even. But because we dont have the reason to why the UP-CO bonus has changed, from the horse his mouth, we cant really judge it, only the result is somewhat less satisfying (to put it nicely )

Think this would be more acceptable to people if the amount of Income lost was lowered with the same UU percentage or get a greater percentage of raw with the officers set at 30 percent

just from the topic name i agree

This is a MINOR update????????????

Brdavs wrote:Well it had to be done sooner or later... I think/hope it`s just the first step in trimmin the planets.

They are creating a massive inbalance in the game, in virtually all areas. But since one cant take em out completley cos ppl would have kittens I guess one must do subtle damagecontrol. Pegging down million+ UPs a couple 100k is a solid start heh...

Exactly the planets have creating a massive inbalance in the game.
Look at the attack planets ..ZERO cost in a hit...but causes costly damage
to the one being hit.Not fair at all.
There needs to be a cost for each attack with attack planets.

pc wrote:

Brdavs wrote:Well it had to be done sooner or later... I think/hope it`s just the first step in trimmin the planets.

They are creating a massive inbalance in the game, in virtually all areas. But since one cant take em out completley cos ppl would have kittens I guess one must do subtle damagecontrol. Pegging down million+ UPs a couple 100k is a solid start heh...

Exactly the planets have creating a massive inbalance in the game.
Look at the attack planets ..ZERO cost in a hit...but causes costly damage
to the one being hit.Not fair at all.
There needs to be a cost for each attack with attack planets.

Yes for every 50bill attack a planet gives you, you must train 1mill super attackers, forcing the person to have a massive amount of supers thus losing more on them stupid hits they do, sounds fair to me. Why should you be allowed to have 1 mill attackers and result in a 800bill strike, unfair.

the UP part of this"minor update" i do not like.

this "minor update" seems to be a "major problem"