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Re: Jun29th update BUGS
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:38 pm
by Forum
should be - whats the issue? can you show an error, or ?
Wepwaet wrote:http://talk.gatewa.rs/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=169623&p=2140472#p2140472
Are alliance ppts working right?
Re: Jun29th update BUGS
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:42 pm
by Forum
voting power? = population?
in the allinace ranking it shows :
2,491,241,957 47 36,889,203,725,320
so 2.5bil po and 36til power.
so 2.5bil is the 'voting power'
(in the acutal house page it says " Voting Power(=total population)" )
is correct? shoudl update each turn...
Scar Face wrote:The alliance power isn't working correctly for us, in the rankings we got:
Dominium~Immortals Scar Face Disciples of Nephthys (Faith) 2,491,142,828 48 35,817,196,763,530 19 (20,001)
While I know that our power should be over 100trill, and it should have been that way 2turns ago.
Re: Jun29th update BUGS
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:51 pm
by Wepwaet
Forum wrote:should be - whats the issue? can you show an error, or ?
Wepwaet wrote:http://talk.gatewa.rs/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=169623&p=2140472#p2140472
Are alliance ppts working right?
I think they were only getting 1minute of ppt per "gift" instead of 1hour of ppt.
Re: Jun29th update BUGS
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:00 pm
by GeneralChaos
May not be a bug, i may have over looked it,
Before when on nox+crit my income would drop down to around 9bill/turn
Now its closer to 20bill/turn,
This maybe the way its supposed to be, was just something i was testing.
0 Percent (of max 1,500 loses in turns)
Is this correct, so someone can hit you 500 times with 3 AT's, does this not play straight into the sniper hands which most wanted fixed, with 3 AT hits, the person if they have a MS that is more than 35% of your defense, can mass away your MS and take no losses in return, then can continue to mass you away and take no losses.
Re: Jun29th update BUGS
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:04 pm
by Forum
it should be 60 minutes (3600 seconds) ...
i have it so that it actually gives 30seconds to anyone without ppt, then increases all alliance member ppt by 3600 seconds....
i would need an example i could test...id of leader?
Wepwaet wrote:Forum wrote:should be - whats the issue? can you show an error, or ?
Wepwaet wrote:http://talk.gatewa.rs/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=169623&p=2140472#p2140472
Are alliance ppts working right?
I think they were only getting 1minute of ppt per "gift" instead of 1hour of ppt.
Re: Jun29th update BUGS
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:13 pm
by Forum
was 70% max before.
now 50% max.
the 'values' are:
<option value="0" selected >None</option>
<option value="10" >High</option>
<option value="20" >Higher</option>
<option value="40" >Higherest</option>
<option value="50" >Higherester</option>
and this is alwasy the % your income is affected (100 - value)/100 * income
so at 20 it would be (100-20)/100 = 0.80 * income
or 80%

nox takes 10% off (so add 10 to the above)
and if you have officers, take that off FIRST...then take the 10+rate off the remainder.
so if you have 100 ...
30% officer = 70
rate of 50+10=60
70*(100-60)/100 = 70 * 0.4
=28
so your 100 income goes to 28 with 30% to officers, higherester rate, and nox.
is it right?
GeneralChaos wrote:May not be a bug, i may have over looked it,
Before when on nox+crit my income would drop down to around 9bill/turn
Now its closer to 20bill/turn,
This maybe the way its supposed to be, was just something i was testing.
Re: Jun29th update BUGS
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:15 pm
by Forum
no losses?? "and take no losses in return"
what are you saying ? 1500 at against is too many? what was it? (remind me ; ) )
GeneralChaos wrote:
0 Percent (of max 1,500 loses in turns)
Is this correct, so someone can hit you 500 times with 3 AT's, does this not play straight into the sniper hands which most wanted fixed, with 3 AT hits, the person if they have a MS that is more than 35% of your defense, can mass away your MS and take no losses in return, then can continue to mass you away and take no losses.
Re: Jun29th update BUGS
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:17 pm
by Forum
<loggin off...back in not likely too few hours

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Re: Jun29th update BUGS
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:15 pm
by MaxSterling
Again...
18:03 steeooo 0 Naquadah stolen 3 3,122 4,004 5,117,864,817,191 653,869,272,317 details
War (attack/raid) Military Unit Death Rates: For a full 15 turn attack, 3% of your normal attack units can die (2% of defence units), while 1.5% (1% of defence units) supers can die. If you are at war and attacking, attack unit deaths are multiplied by 1.5. If both sides are at war, each is doubled. Ontop of this, defence unit deaths are multiplied by strike action/defence action and attack unit deaths are multiplied by defence action/strike action (there is a min/max of 10%/500%). Attacking at less that 20% of enemy defence causes no deaths to the enemy.
I fail to see a multiplier kicking in here...
Both of us Unknowns. I get a blessing + I get 950b MS bonus... and I'm not kicking some serious ass on the ground troops no matter how few there are?
ID 83707
http://gatewars.com/battlelog.php?id=117423509&isview=1
Re: Jun29th update BUGS
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:28 pm
by Feri
Something seems wrong with the defense values or nox...
I was attempting to mass someone who had nox on (and was not online)
and they phased before I could even kill the defense weps...
even the whole way with me having planet bonuses and MS bonuses considerably larger than them I was taking heavy losses much greater than before updates would have been...
is it really meant that someone on nox cant even be massed?
Re: Jun29th update BUGS
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:56 pm
by MaxSterling
Feri wrote:Something seems wrong with the defense values or nox...
I was attempting to mass someone who had nox on (and was not online)
and they phased before I could even kill the defense weps...
even the whole way with me having planet bonuses and MS bonuses considerably larger than them I was taking heavy losses much greater than before updates would have been...
is it really meant that someone on nox cant even be massed?
Do you even bother reading the updates? Players had issues with massing being too cheap, so weapons now take twice as long to destroy with no realm adjustment. Critical realm alert slows weapon destruction down even further. Sabbing was enhanced and in essence doubled. Therefore you can mass down weapons a bit, then sab away the weakened weapons.
Re: Jun29th update BUGS
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:15 pm
by BenjaminMS
Admin, you didn't reply to the fact that buying PPTs in-game on the market is broken :'(
Re: Jun29th update BUGS
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:30 am
by GeneralChaos
The nox+realm alert for houses at war, still works,
If the houses are at war, Nox and Realm alert do not count as auto 2 way war is set,
But NOX still affects covert, we tested it today and i used the min number of spies needed to sab someone without nox + realm alert, as it should not work with 2 way war set, but it still boosted there covert to where i need the max need on crit,
Should houses that are set to 2 way war, NOX should not count at all, it should not boost covert numbers for enemies of the opposite house, else why have a 2 way war setting, as it stands you can mass with bypassing nox as the war setting, but you cannot sab past it,
If you need to check admin,
My ID is 59627
Intelligence Logs,
And look for the time stamps
03.23
03.24
I left the persons name but they are the only 2 spy/sab at that time.
Re: Jun29th update BUGS
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:56 am
by MaxSterling
GeneralChaos wrote:The nox+realm alert for houses at war, still works,
If the houses are at war, Nox and Realm alert do not count as auto 2 way war is set,
But NOX still affects covert, we tested it today and i used the min number of spies needed to sab someone without nox + realm alert, as it should not work with 2 way war set, but it still boosted there covert to where i need the max need on crit,
Should houses that are set to 2 way war, NOX should not count at all, it should not boost covert numbers for enemies of the opposite house, else why have a 2 way war setting, as it stands you can mass with bypassing nox as the war setting, but you cannot sab past it,
If you need to check admin,
My ID is 59627
Intelligence Logs,
And look for the time stamps
03.23
03.24
I left the persons name but they are the only 2 spy/sab at that time.
IIRC, you must be in a house for 5 days to officially become a member. Since the updates haven't even been around for 5 days yet, nobody is officially in a house yet. After the 5 days are up, and you are an actual member... then everything associated with that house is all yours... the bonus, the enemies, and the war declarations and peace settings.
Re: Jun29th update BUGS
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:20 am
by Sir Phoenix Knight
OK dont know if it has been meantioned yet but the is a bug in the Beta alliance management for PPT
you use the 4 bill but instead of it giving you 1 hour you get 1 minute....
can admin when they get a chance have a look at this please..
Regards
SPK