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Re: FS vs TA
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:26 am
by xDaku
The member that massed, said he did so for the presence in the logs. Thanks for basically calling him a liar though.
Or if we go by your excuse, thanks for the very delayed random mass.
FS didn't spread the massings, you guys did that all on your own.
And one 80T def? No offense, but that 80T def hasn't made you the monster war machine you guys are considered today. Congrats on the mass and hope you enjoyed it, but no one in the last war was the least bit worried about you.
Oh, and pleace keep sprouting all this crap about former FS and current FS. Cause mezz, brothers, easy, all approve of everything up till now. All the former core members are still around, still just as happy.
Or, again, if we go by your statement, the former fs had one surrender under its belt. In the past 3 years, fs hasn't surrendered once, and all the "og" members bar easy are still around. All the original members are happy, and enjoying the alliance. We had two of the greatest wars in sgw from last summer to this one. We've made more friendships, helped in major game hauls, and attempted to create a positive atmosphere along with dde in this game. Two organizations didn't follow up with the changes, you and OE. That's fine, to each their own, but a shadow of it's former self?
I dunno, we managed to make it through with all our members. We've lost more members in peace time than war - fun fact. But no, I guess the dead EPA was better than the current FS....which is encompassed by the same players as the "old fs".
Funny.
Re: FS vs TA
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:33 am
by BMMJ13
You do realize this all started when a FS member massed over a single farm hit, that nothing else would of come of anything had it not been for that, but oh no, never FS fault and FS would never mass over a single farm hit.
No one may be afraid of me, but no one is afraid of anyone in the current FS.
Re: FS vs TA
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:38 am
by xDaku
Really? Where is that FS member now?
Re: FS vs TA
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:40 am
by BMMJ13
You should ask your alliance mates or ask Mayhem who the only FS member to mass during their war was.
Re: FS vs TA
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:42 am
by InR
stop it ...
It's all good, who cares about past, we have war, deal with that (all of us) or we end it...
no point talking about why it happened, because it did

Lets focus on future and present
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Re: FS vs TA
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:44 am
by xDaku
Everyone massed during the FS war.
And the member you speak of isn't even in FS, so all this pissiness you guys decided to continue with FS is on you.
Re: FS vs TA
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:46 am
by Mathlord
I know FS has no problem sitting dead in the water for years of warfare. As long as you are comfortable with that, we'll be happy to keep your lands well farmed...we'll even get some of that nice sugar cane to make good ethanol. You know how much I love energy independence.
We can walk around this issue over and over but the truth of the matter is we just got tired of dealing with the incessant attacks, the threats, the complaints and the endless hours of diplomacy that if we were lucky would give us a couple weeks of normalcy before the next problem. We gave up being nice.
Congrats for starting this war. First time an alliance has declared officially on TA in awhile. First time FS has faced TA...there once was that war between FS and TATS which was another dull affair full of people complaining a lot about how it started and TAF misconduct...funny how two years later Easy admitted he started it to try and get FS into FUALL...but that's just interesting ancient history.
No defenses anywhere...waiting for the two amazing defenses to come off PPT.
Re: FS vs TA
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:48 am
by Mathlord
xDaku wrote:Everyone massed during the FS war.
And the member you speak of isn't even in FS, so all this pissiness you guys decided to continue with FS is on you.
Incorrect. While that member is no longer part of FS, how the situation was handled by FS leadership follows along the same pattern we have seen from FS leadership in the past. Your response to our not liking your actions was to "deal with it" more often than not. Funny how you didn't like getting massed over "fair" naq hits in response and demanded resources in return. Did you like our "deal with it" reply? Oh guess not since you declared war
Yawn. Build something.
Re: FS vs TA
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:50 am
by BMMJ13
xDaku wrote:Everyone massed during the FS war.
And the member you speak of isn't even in FS, so all this pissiness you guys decided to continue with FS is on you.
Ah yes, because us getting upset over a FS member for massing over 1 hit is so less warranted than you guys starting a war because a TA member made 20 hits on a FS member for being in our logs often and making bad hits on ascended. Clearly one of these is different than the other, funny how you say it is us being unreasonable.
Re: FS vs TA
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:51 am
by xDaku
Mathlord wrote:I know FS has no problem sitting dead in the water for years of warfare. As long as you are comfortable with that, we'll be happy to keep your lands well farmed...we'll even get some of that nice sugar cane to make good ethanol. You know how much I love energy independence.
We can walk around this issue over and over but the truth of the matter is we just got tired of dealing with the incessant attacks, the threats, the complaints and the endless hours of diplomacy that if we were lucky would give us a couple weeks of normalcy before the next problem. We gave up being nice.
Congrats for starting this war. First time an alliance has declared officially on TA in awhile. First time FS has faced TA...there once was that war between FS and TATS which was another dull affair full of people complaining a lot about how it started and TAF misconduct...funny how two years later Easy admitted he started it to try and get FS into FUALL...but that's just interesting ancient history.
No defenses anywhere...waiting for the two amazing defenses to come off PPT.
Stands the same here.
On a less trolly, more serious note, enjoy the war peeps. Or don't, up to you. I'll pop in when I have time.
Betty, our member isn't in FS anymore. It is different.
Re: FS vs TA
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:52 am
by BMMJ13
He still massed while having the tag. Doesn't change a damn thing if he drops tag to protect FS after.
Re: FS vs TA
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:54 am
by Mathlord
Also doesn't change the actions by FS leadership and how they handle these issues. Our beef isn't with Field Marshall, it's with FS

Re: FS vs TA
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:57 am
by xDaku
He didn't leave FS to protect us, he left because he wanted to continue on and we didn't. We wanted two different things.
Your lot decided to stay pissy when a change in FS was made to try to avoid this. You didn't go after FM, you threatened all of FS. And you complain about us?
Your member accepted a vendetta, and you still threatened FS. But no, you guys are as innocent as angels.
Re: FS vs TA
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:59 am
by xDaku
Mathlord wrote:Also doesn't change the actions by FS leadership and how they handle these issues. Our beef isn't with Field Marshall, it's with FS

Yea, no beef with Field Marshall.
Nice one.
Re: FS vs TA
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:00 pm
by BMMJ13
Just keep on ringing that PR bell. We both know which alliance has 5 people off ppt just in top 100 and which has no defenses off ppt.