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Re: respect etc.

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:39 am
by geisha
Fallen and Vendetta, if you wouldn’t act like 5 year olds in this thread, I’d actually consider bothering with your posts.

Myeri, your post just amazes me. Are you really that ignorant? Are you really lacking the ability of seeing the context things have been said in?


Myseri wrote:Now geisha, you talk about role play, you talk about how it is different then real life. But Psi has repeatedly posted your thought that you cannot hate the account, you hate the player (to put it bluntly). So how can we role play and get away from who we are.


Context: someone wanted to sell his account, others were threatening to sit on the account for ever regardless who would buy it. This isn’t role playing that’s just silly. How can you hold the account itself responsibe for what the previous owner used it for in the role he was playing?

Myseri wrote:If we can role play and get away from who we are in real life, then why can't Nuto's comments about you brothel is waiting for you be in a role play fashion?


Context: she said those things when ever she disagreed with my personal opinion or my modding. Never have I even had any interactions with her in game so how can this be considered role playing? Stop trying to find excuses for Nuto’s behaviour, you only make yourself look like a fool.


Myseri wrote:Now you want a solution to this. How about stop making PERSONAL insults. I mean you yourself have show how they were personal. You took it personally being called a prostitute. You called Robe, the player (not her account), a coward. Now if we cut these out and just insult the person in game instead of real life it would be fine. That gets it back on the role playing level.


How about you get your facts straight? I never called Robe a coward nor have I been insulting her personally. We were at war with FoE, they weren’t fighting back, I made fun of it. If you consider that a personal insult you are proving my whole point when I say people are overly sensitive. And comparing that to what Nuto did is just ignorant.

Myseri wrote:Also you want to talk about respect, it is that it has to be earned. This is how I was raised as were a lot of people. You want to be respect it, first you have to respect others. Insulting them doesn't do it for ya. Yes others may fear you for your account is big and strong, but they only listen to you because they fear you, they aren't respecting you.


Respect should be a given.

Re: respect etc.

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:56 am
by goodie
So uh Geisha, how about the context of those PMs you posted?

-Goodie

Re: respect etc.

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:05 am
by geisha
goodie wrote:So uh Geisha, how about the context of those PMs you posted?

-Goodie



Which PMs are you referring to?

Re: respect etc.

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:08 am
by goodie
geisha wrote:
goodie wrote:So uh Geisha, how about the context of those PMs you posted?

-Goodie



Which PMs are you referring to?


how about... all of them?

-Goodie

Re: respect etc.

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:12 am
by S T I
S T I wrote:
goodie wrote:
Myseri wrote:you mean this whole argument was over a name color? gheez....


Its over different things for different people.

It started out with geisha as being about the group of people that are going around being disrespecable.

People then quickly went on about how can she say anything when she herself is disrespecfull?

And so on and has branched of into many areas.

-Goodie


nah, it was definatly about colours.

Nuto hinted that Geisha was a scarlet woman :lol:


Quote SVaRuN

This is good...RED is roman colour Toon_PDT_21

yeah, thats what happened, everyone saw :smt084 (Red) :lol:

Re: respect etc.

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:14 am
by geisha
I see you are really trying to contribute in finding a solution in this discussion, goodie.

Tell me what PMs I have posted where the context wasn't obvious and I will most happily enlighten you even though I don't see how this is helping this whole discussion at all.

Re: respect etc.

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:28 am
by goodie
geisha wrote:I see you are really trying to contribute in finding a solution in this discussion, goodie.

Tell me what PMs I have posted where the context wasn't obvious and I will most happily enlighten you even though I don't see how this is helping this whole discussion at all.


I thought i told you, we found the issue, it was you?

We had the same discussion on irc without you, and it was fine, hell, homer was on your side (in reference to replijakes earlyier coment about a one sided argument), and it was still respectfull.

-Goodie

Re: respect etc.

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:34 am
by geisha
goodie wrote:
I thought i told you, we found the issue, it was you?

We had the same discussion on irc without you, and it was fine, hell, homer was on your side (in reference to replijakes earlyier coment about a one sided argument), and it was still respectfull.

-Goodie


The issue is me?

The fact that people feel personally offended when you joke about their alliance name or the fact that they are on PPT is to blame on me?

The fact that some poeple don't see the difference between calling someone a **Filtered** when ever they get the chance and calling an alliance Pretenders is my fault also?

Well, good to know things are that easy.

I should have paid more attention when I created mankind... seeing that I am responsible for all that, I must be God. (Sorry REK)

Re: respect etc.

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:37 am
by S T I
Racism means attitudes, practices and other factors that disadvantage people because of their race, color or ethnicity. Racism can be directed against any race, color or ethnicity.

am i helping :D

Re: respect etc.

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:41 am
by geisha
S T I wrote:Racism means attitudes, practices and other factors that disadvantage people because of their race, color or ethnicity. Racism can be directed against any race, color or ethnicity.

am i helping :D



No, because you are off-topic :P

Besides, who ever thinks this was about the respect group colour has obviously not been reading my posts.

Re: respect etc.

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:44 am
by goodie
geisha wrote:
goodie wrote:
I thought i told you, we found the issue, it was you?

We had the same discussion on irc without you, and it was fine, hell, homer was on your side (in reference to replijakes earlyier coment about a one sided argument), and it was still respectfull.

-Goodie


The issue is me?

The fact that people feel personally offended when you joke about their alliance name or the fact that they are on PPT is to blame on me?

The fact that some poeple don't see the difference between calling someone a nightwalker when ever they get the chance and calling an alliance Pretenders is my fault also?

Well, good to know things are that easy.

I should have paid more attention when I created mankind... seeing that I am responsible for all that, I must be God. (Sorry REK)


Well.

everyone == we get this, with rampent abuse, and abuse of mod power.

mostly everyone == we had a nice discussion about you, with people arguing both sides.

Youd be surprissed how many people posting in the first thread where also on irc at the same time. all bar 3 or 4, and thats including you and replijake. we even had people who werent on the forums in on it.

-Goodie

Re: respect etc.

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:06 am
by goodie
On this note, i shall leave this discussion for a few days.

I have been asked by a friend to give a few days for some changes to come into effect.

-Goodie

Re: respect etc.

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:31 am
by Alex
geisha wrote:Fallen and Vendetta, if you wouldn’t act like 5 year olds in this thread, I’d actually consider bothering with your posts.


Well oh wise and brave giesha... If youd stop being so stuck up in your own little ways AND READ MY SUGGESTIONS WHEN I POST THEM then we wouldnt be mocking your little thread here.

Ive made endless suggestions but you sit here wanting some fame or recognition for being the 'good guy' and won't even answer.

Then you run off and acuse others of going off topic about you a nuto, you and psi ect, when its you who needs to get slaped back on track.

If you REALLY want to fix the problim go back in the pages and find my suggestion, otherwise its fairly obvious that you don't really care.

Now stop whining that people are mocking your thread or spamming it because of you thats all its good for.

Ive also seen at least 3 other people post ideas like mine and those ideas don't recieve a moments thought.

It sounds to me like you think that your better than all of us in the community. Get over yourself.

Im sure that your gonna edit this post because you want to save face and i wouldnt be suprised if you did.

Re: respect etc.

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:02 am
by Vendetta
5 year old my rectum :shock:

Geisha you completely disregard any post that appears to be a little to much for you to handle and cant palm off as spam or off topic, nor make a decent, let alone any form of rebutle.

You ignore any and all posts that could potentially solve this situation, or show it for what it is, in an attempt to draw the public eye away from them so you can continue your charade of how righteous you are in your insults and miss use of power and condoning disrespect among fellow forums members in the name of entertainment on your part.

The simple fact you ignore any decent an constructive posts soley constructed on the topic at hand which you claim to love ohh so much, to make room for you to whine about any mention of the name Nuto, or the respect group or anything else that may cause the rest reading this to turn a blind eye to the problem at hand is laughable at best.

I dont know about the rest of the people here, but personally id like to see this topic dropped as really, it is no longer a topic just a desperate attempt for Geisha to save face, Geisha stripped of modship, and the same for any other mod who feels they need to act as such.

Mod issues nearly tore the forum apart before, IMO they started to get better and back on par, happenings such as this do not serve to better that stance.

Re: respect etc.

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:07 am
by Joder
Ah respect.....what a topic.

There are many forms of respect.
I respect someone who plays this game personally because they have a good account and have worked hard for it.

I respect someone in the game because they are fair and just, and have earned it.

I respect the wishes of someone in the game because they are powerful (although that doesn't necessarily mean that I respect them personally)

If someone shows me respect (and not because they have to) then I am much more inclined to reciprocate that respect, because it shows what kind of a person they truly are. That earns them my respect.

When someone shows disrespect either to me personally or on the forum it shows their character. It's hard to respect someone who acts hostile or bullies those who can not stand up to them. Or even if they can stand up to them they degrade them and try to make them look inferior (typical bully behavior)

Have I ever threatened someone? Yes, for their actions warranted it. I will not threaten or mass someone just because I feel like it.
Yes, this is a war game. Yes, we play this game to have fun and some of us to relax and take the stress of life off.
This doesn't mean that we can't still act like grown ups and respect each other.

Fair play is still the order of the day, and the fastest way to earn my respect, both in game and out.

Cheers all, and happy gaming ;)