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Re: 50m AT missing from the market?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:55 am
by MaxSterling
SuperSaiyan wrote:edit: half of my resources attained each week, go to my empire as well, so that cuts down what I do to my account a bit as well
ROFLMAO!!!!
You cry that people don't develop accounts on their own, then hand those same people resources.
You're part of the problem, not the solution.
If you want to help your members, teach them what to look for when raiding and farming. Show them why you look for those qualities in accounts. Then make them
do it on their own. That's exactly how I ran Technocracy and look at where they are now. Granted, they don't fight back anymore... but that's because they'd rather
waste their ATs on developing their accounts in a safe manner than wasting them on a war to see who's the most stubborn.
Re: 50m AT missing from the market?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:05 am
by bleedingblue
lol, im not against anyone or anything, but manymanyMANY people are missing a very obvious, very important point:
HE JUST MADE THE GAME MORE INTERESTING!!!
yes, some stuff will be harder and more challenging in some situations for some individuals, but guess what else this all means? it means that wars will have to be re-thought. the way the game functions, which comes down to its alliances functioning, and ultimately the players' functioning, is going to change. aka, for those complaining of a stale game, THE GAME JUST GOT INTERESTING!!!!
Re: 50m AT missing from the market?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:08 am
by MaxSterling
SuperSaiyan wrote:IMO...
the absolute easiest way to solve the games power unbalance...
is to simply stop allowing account buying/selling/trading/giving away/swapping/etc.
The way I read it, is you don't agree with people buying other people's accounts because they didn't put in the time and effort to earn those accounts.
If that's how you feel, then my argument is that players should also play on their own and raid/farm their own resources.
You can't say you can't have an account you didn't earn and then give players resources that they didn't earn on their own.
If you didn't mean that about buying accounts, then I apologize for misinterpreting your statement.
bleedingblue wrote:lol, im not against anyone or anything, but manymanyMANY people are missing a very obvious, very important point:
HE JUST MADE THE GAME MORE INTERESTING!!!
yes, some stuff will be harder and more challenging in some situations for some individuals, but guess what else this all means? it means that wars will have to be re-thought. the way the game functions, which comes down to its alliances functioning, and ultimately the players' functioning, is going to change. aka, for those complaining of a stale game, THE GAME JUST GOT INTERESTING!!!!
How about I have my entire alliance buy ATs from the black market and mass and sit on your entire alliance. Then we'll see how Interesting it will be for you as
you run out of ATs and I have plenty more $ to buy more ATs on the black market. *That's just an example. I'm not wasting my ATs on massing an alliance*
You're just as bad as the game admin... short-sighted. Wars will not be won by those with the best strategy. Those days are over. Wars will be won by
those who have the most $ to buy ATs because the rest of the market will have fewer ATs available for those that are dependent on the in-game market for resources.
Re: 50m AT missing from the market?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:11 am
by Legendary Apophis
bleedingblue wrote:lol, im not against anyone or anything, but manymanyMANY people are missing a very obvious, very important point:
HE JUST MADE THE GAME MORE INTERESTING!!!
yes, some stuff will be harder and more challenging in some situations for some individuals, but guess what else this all means? it means that wars will have to be re-thought. the way the game functions, which comes down to its alliances functioning, and ultimately the players' functioning, is going to change. aka, for those complaining of a stale game, THE GAME JUST GOT INTERESTING!!!!
Re: 50m AT missing from the market?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:22 am
by bleedingblue
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SuperSaiyan wrote:MaxSterling wrote:SuperSaiyan wrote:IMO...
the absolute easiest way to solve the games power unbalance...
is to simply stop allowing account buying/selling/trading/giving away/swapping/etc.
The way I read it, is you don't agree with people buying other people's accounts because they didn't put in the time and effort to earn those accounts.
If that's how you feel, then my argument is that players should also play on their own and raid/farm their own resources.
You can't say you can't have an account you didn't earn and then give players resources that they didn't earn on their own.
If you didn't mean that about buying accounts, then I apologize for misinterpreting your statement.
The reason I said that, was because one of the biggest things people complain about, is the gap of power between the titans of old and the wimps of new...
the ONLY way to effectively get rid of that is to do as I suggested imo
I personally, don't care who as what account or what is bigger than mine, I'm happy to say that my account is where it is because of what I have done to it, anything else, means nothing to me
I help my comrades here and there, because I can, not because they can't do it themselves...
This fluctuation of AT, and present semi-panic state some many people are in will last a few days, maybe weeks and everyone will learn to deal with whatever happens
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the last part EXACTLY! the admins are simply changing something thats easily manipulated but has a large effect on the game. players wanted something new, something to shake things up, and they got it. the game WILL adapt to this change, however long it lasts, as will it's players, like it/they have every other update through the years. a shortage of ATs isnt guna make the SGW universe end, just limit the way ppl spend their ATs.
Re: 50m AT missing from the market?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:43 am
by Juliette
Threads merged.
Not been confirmed as an update, making duplicate threads to already existing threads is pointless and unnecessary.
Re: 50m AT missing from the market?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:35 pm
by Chronus
I hope its a mistake. There are better updates, ie like giving the alliance bank a useful function or even just a function.
Re: 50m AT missing from the market?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:36 pm
by jack is black
bah...gonna earn less cash now...ohh well...admin sucks big.
Re: 50m AT missing from the market?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:59 pm
by Juliette
(Thread moved to General and back to create a shadow topic; this is done to allow even our less search-savvy members to find this thread.)jack is black wrote:bah...gonna earn less cash now...ohh well...admin sucks big.
Now this is a curious argument. How do you earn less cash now, Jack?
(Forgive me, I must be missing an obvious mechanism.)
Re: 50m AT missing from the market?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:10 pm
by deni
It is not a glitch or mistake but an intentional update as confirmed by Admin Jason.
Re: 50m AT missing from the market?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:11 pm
by Juliette
deni wrote:It is not a glitch or mistake but an intentional update as confirmed by Admin Jason.
And with that.. our time in Market Discussion ends, and we continue our conversation in .. *drumroll* Released Updates.
Re: 50m AT missing from the market?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:12 pm
by Lawless One
im sure EVERYONE here has been told by their mother to KEEP IT FOR A RAINY DAY!!!!!!!!! hey its sunny outside so im gonna sit in a farm in GW how about hey its sunny outside im going to GO OUT AND SOCIALISE with my REAL LIFE FRIENDS theres a reason y PPT is in the game so your resources will be safe while you are out of the house weather it be out drinking or with friends or spending quality time the your other half and NOT checking your game
Re: 50m AT missing from the market?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:17 pm
by Legendary Apophis
lawless one wrote:im sure EVERYONE here has been told by their mother to KEEP IT FOR A RAINY DAY!!!!!!!!! hey its sunny outside so im gonna sit in a farm in GW how about hey its sunny outside im going to GO OUT AND SOCIALISE with my REAL LIFE FRIENDS theres a reason y PPT is in the game so your resources will be safe while you are out of the house weather it be out drinking or with friends or spending quality time the your other half and NOT checking your game
I don't get it...PPT isn't concerned here, so I doubt there's much to worry about spending time out.
Re: 50m AT missing from the market?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:22 pm
by Lawless One
its the hole theres less AT so be careful with what you have i know its nothing to do with ppt i pput it in to show we can use it to have an outside life and not spend 24*7 on gw
Re: 50m AT missing from the market?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:26 pm
by Legendary Apophis
lawless one wrote:its the hole theres less AT so be careful with what you have i know its nothing to do with ppt i pput it in to show we can use it to have an outside life and not spend 24*7 on gw
Who spends 24/7 on SGW?
If I was to spend 24/7, that would be on forums, definitely not ingame. And ATs are useless for forums activity.