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Glad to see relations between TAF and TL are ok. I wont mass TL for not joining this and it was not my goal to drug them in... only almighty TAF conspirators created a story about betry...

Please, for one minute, think about why I decided to do this... what for a resoun I had...

Also... Dublin warior, your an "Amazing idiot" If I ever were reborn, I wish I was you... just for few days, to experience the feeling... to be an "Amazing idiot"

Not many ppl have the gift, am jelous.

caesar2 wrote:Glad to see relations between TAF and TL are ok. I wont mass TL for not joining this and it was not my goal to drug them in... only almighty TAF conspirators created a story about betry...

Please, for one minute, think about why I decided to do this... what for a resoun I had...

Also... Dublin warior, your an "Amazing idiot" If I ever were reborn, I wish I was you... just for few days, to experience the feeling... to be an "Amazing idiot"

Not many ppl have the gift, am jelous.

If I could share my disabilities and mental illness in such way,
I guarantee you would not be on the short list.
Far too many people in my own real life who need such experience first.

Sorry to disappoint.

This continues to be fun to watch, despite TAF's attempt at making it more than it is.
It is just a solo player having fun. Loving the propaganda though.

Never took TA to mean 'Tin-foil Apparel'.

Have to do something when absolutely nothing is happening on the battlefield.

If you have further information about the "true" identity of your officer, mister pegasus, by all means tell us. We're dying to hear your opinion on the matter...

BMMJ13 wrote:

Guild wrote:

BMMJ13 wrote:

Guild wrote:untagged TAF multis were hitting DDE whilst we had a nap

...people in glass houses...

Quite different from current situation. They did so for a short time without HC knowledge or approval, after which HC found out those who were hit were repaid and it has not happened in quite some time. Add to that there were multiple incidents when the initial multis ascended among many alliances, while the situation I am talking about is much later and much different circumstances.

without Hc knowledge or approval you say .....

BMMJ13 wrote: Even if somehow they didn't know about a Senate member's multi being used to mass an ally and break a treaty, it was their god damn job to know.

They were quickly found out and stopped, hence what HC doing it's job.

no they didnt. I found out. then mathlord tried to argue his way out of it, then admitted defeat. was not a simple oh, we're sorry. i know i was in the conversation.

so to be honest, you guys have no right to complain about C2, you hypocrits, you were saying to me, that since your guys multi isnt in the alliance it isnt covered by naps... phahah egg on your face much

Guild wrote:

BMMJ13 wrote:

Guild wrote:

BMMJ13 wrote:

Guild wrote:untagged TAF multis were hitting DDE whilst we had a nap

...people in glass houses...

Quite different from current situation. They did so for a short time without HC knowledge or approval, after which HC found out those who were hit were repaid and it has not happened in quite some time. Add to that there were multiple incidents when the initial multis ascended among many alliances, while the situation I am talking about is much later and much different circumstances.

without Hc knowledge or approval you say .....

BMMJ13 wrote: Even if somehow they didn't know about a Senate member's multi being used to mass an ally and break a treaty, it was their god damn job to know.

They were quickly found out and stopped, hence what HC doing it's job.

no they didnt. I found out. then mathlord tried to argue his way out of it, then admitted defeat. was not a simple oh, we're sorry. i know i was in the conversation.

so to be honest, you guys have no right to complain about C2, you hypocrits, you were saying to me, that since your guys multi isnt in the alliance it isnt covered by naps... phahah egg on your face much

Guild at any given time your in our war threads having ago, hell you joined in on our last war,now i understand your selling or sold account and left the game if so kindly leave our thread and take your stairing pot with you cheers dont let the doar hit you on the way out.

caesar2 wrote:Please, for one minute, think about why I decided to do this... what for a resoun I had...

According to your actions, I would have every right to go mass TL in TAF's name just after leaving TAF. Maybe even keep close ties with TAF while doing so. Hell, I would have more right to do so.Though for now I still like most TL people a lot more than I dislike you. Same goes for TAF from what I understand.

caesar2 wrote:Glad to see relations between TAF and TL are ok. I wont mass TL for not joining this and it was not my goal to drug them in... only almighty TAF conspirators created a story about betry...

Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. Oh so you just happened to get a random alliance request from a one person alliance consisting of a multi who just the week before was failing to do the same thing you are failing to do. Oh so they just happen to join the MS house because that is clearly the most useful house for that account. Oh wait, you are also telling me they also have sending messages exactly like you for the past few months? I can go on and on.

The longer you hold off on answering the questions the longer it's going to stay an issue. How long did they know, or did you really hide it from your family from that long, and why did you target who you did. It really is not that hard of questions to answer.

Guild wrote:no they didnt. I found out. then mathlord tried to argue his way out of it, then admitted defeat. was not a simple oh, we're sorry. i know i was in the conversation.

so to be honest, you guys have no right to complain about C2, you hypocrits, you were saying to me, that since your guys multi isnt in the alliance it isnt covered by naps... phahah egg on your face much

You have a very different recollection of what actually happened, but I guess there is only so much that can be changed to help your point. I'm guessing your war must be as boring as ours for you to enjoy posting so much here.

BMMJ13 wrote:

Guild wrote:no they didnt. I found out. then mathlord tried to argue his way out of it, then admitted defeat. was not a simple oh, we're sorry. i know i was in the conversation.

so to be honest, you guys have no right to complain about C2, you hypocrits, you were saying to me, that since your guys multi isnt in the alliance it isnt covered by naps... phahah egg on your face much

You have a very different recollection of what actually happened, but I guess there is only so much that can be changed to help your point. I'm guessing your war must be as boring as ours for you to enjoy posting so much here.

let me see if i have the chat between myself and math then

sold my account out the game, i just like to make sure people arent embarrassing themselves by being hypocritical

BMMJ13 wrote:

caesar2 wrote:Please, for one minute, think about why I decided to do this... what for a resoun I had...

According to your actions, I would have every right to go mass TL in TAF's name just after leaving TAF. Maybe even keep close ties with TAF while doing so. Hell, I would have more right to do so.Though for now I still like most TL people a lot more than I dislike you. Same goes for TAF from what I understand.

caesar2 wrote:Glad to see relations between TAF and TL are ok. I wont mass TL for not joining this and it was not my goal to drug them in... only almighty TAF conspirators created a story about betry...

Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. Oh so you just happened to get a random alliance request from a one person alliance consisting of a multi who just the week before was failing to do the same thing you are failing to do. Oh so they just happen to join the MS house because that is clearly the most useful house for that account. Oh wait, you are also telling me they also have sending messages exactly like you for the past few months? I can go on and on.

The longer you hold off on answering the questions the longer it's going to stay an issue. How long did they know, or did you really hide it from your family from that long, and why did you target who you did. It really is not that hard of questions to answer.

Guild wrote:no they didnt. I found out. then mathlord tried to argue his way out of it, then admitted defeat. was not a simple oh, we're sorry. i know i was in the conversation.

so to be honest, you guys have no right to complain about C2, you hypocrits, you were saying to me, that since your guys multi isnt in the alliance it isnt covered by naps... phahah egg on your face much

You have a very different recollection of what actually happened, but I guess there is only so much that can be changed to help your point. I'm guessing your war must be as boring as ours for you to enjoy posting so much here.

Soon enough... give it a week or two... and you will get your answers...

But by the logic... not saying its my NG multi... TL didnt know about what pegasus is doing... well... even Senate didnt know... so far... I have no information about it. If anyone from TL knows pegasus identity and knew what he is doing... and know hes a TL multi or not... I cant say YES or NO. But TL Senate had never talk about pegasus... but I remember, pegasus was a TL target cuse he was farming TL members...

Well... Soon enough... be patient... and maybe I wont tell you my NG multi ID, maybe yes... who knows...

Guild wrote:

BMMJ13 wrote:

Guild wrote:no they didnt. I found out. then mathlord tried to argue his way out of it, then admitted defeat. was not a simple oh, we're sorry. i know i was in the conversation.

so to be honest, you guys have no right to complain about C2, you hypocrits, you were saying to me, that since your guys multi isnt in the alliance it isnt covered by naps... phahah egg on your face much

You have a very different recollection of what actually happened, but I guess there is only so much that can be changed to help your point. I'm guessing your war must be as boring as ours for you to enjoy posting so much here.

let me see if i have the chat between myself and math then

sold my account out the game, i just like to make sure people arent embarrassing themselves by being hypocritical

Did you notice that nothing actually happened at the end of our discussion? I stopped talking to you because, as always, you are a brick wall. I told you NAPs did not cover untagged multies. Just as we couldn't complain about you farming our untagged multi doesn't mean you could complain about our untagged multi then farming you. Then of course in the Mayhem war, you left DDE and joined Mayhem and started sniping little accounts like the "badass" you are.

You were right though. Untagged multies can lead to trouble and we did try to close ranks with our multies to prevent antagonizing friendly alliances, just as we hoped friendly alliances would do in return.

There is a serous distinction, however, between being farmed and farming back or getting massed and massing back in a vendetta and a senator massing a long standing friendly alliance.

The whole situation stinks. Always has. C'est la vie. Kill them all. Blah Blah Blah. Just get me rank one ME.

Mathlord wrote:

Guild wrote:

BMMJ13 wrote:

Guild wrote:no they didnt. I found out. then mathlord tried to argue his way out of it, then admitted defeat. was not a simple oh, we're sorry. i know i was in the conversation.

so to be honest, you guys have no right to complain about C2, you hypocrits, you were saying to me, that since your guys multi isnt in the alliance it isnt covered by naps... phahah egg on your face much

You have a very different recollection of what actually happened, but I guess there is only so much that can be changed to help your point. I'm guessing your war must be as boring as ours for you to enjoy posting so much here.

let me see if i have the chat between myself and math then

sold my account out the game, i just like to make sure people arent embarrassing themselves by being hypocritical

Did you notice that nothing actually happened at the end of our discussion? I stopped talking to you because, as always, you are a brick wall. I told you NAPs did not cover untagged multies. Just as we couldn't complain about you farming our untagged multi doesn't mean you could complain about our untagged multi then farming you. Then of course in the Mayhem war, you left DDE and joined Mayhem and started sniping little accounts like the "badass" you are.

You were right though. Untagged multies can lead to trouble and we did try to close ranks with our multies to prevent antagonizing friendly alliances, just as we hoped friendly alliances would do in return.

There is a serous distinction, however, between being farmed and farming back or getting massed and massing back in a vendetta and a senator massing a long standing friendly alliance.

The whole situation stinks. Always has. C'est la vie. Kill them all. Blah Blah Blah. Just get me rank one ME.

I took on the big accounts thanks, and as C2 is finding out, your guys planets are ripe for tha taking, this is why you are going to lose. thats why you and bmmj are whinning like little girls, because there is nothing you can do to hurt him, when he can wreck you guys at any time of his choosing

simple as

at the end of you thinking you were right and being proven you werent, not another TAF multi hit us

cmon mathlord you badass

Oh yeah! That was the thing. It was AJ Jones' multi that showed up in your logs a couple times wasn't it? And then you massed his main account for it. Oh and apparently because he was mean to you in your war thread by rooting for FS.

Ah well. Situation was resolved cause he was reimbursed for his losses. He only showed up in your logs in the first place because he was being farmed by DDE. So we got his account into TAF, bim bam smash, no problem. Never really had any problems with DDE diplomacy outside of you and yours is mostly because your first reaction is to threaten or to attack, not to discuss.

As far as c2 is concerned, I'm sure he'll make some damage. From a purely economic standpoint, he'll force us to use nox and crit while we aren't on PPT and that will cost us quite a bit of naq. But that's life and part of being in an alliance. When some are threatened, the rest respond. It's how it should be.

Mathlord wrote:Oh yeah! That was the thing. It was AJ Jones' multi that showed up in your logs a couple times wasn't it? And then you massed his main account for it. Oh and apparently because he was mean to you in your war thread by rooting for FS.

Ah well. Situation was resolved cause he was reimbursed for his losses. He only showed up in your logs in the first place because he was being farmed by DDE. So we got his account into TAF, bim bam smash, no problem. Never really had any problems with DDE diplomacy outside of you and yours is mostly because your first reaction is to threaten or to attack, not to discuss.

As far as c2 is concerned, I'm sure he'll make some damage. From a purely economic standpoint, he'll force us to use nox and crit while we aren't on PPT and that will cost us quite a bit of naq. But that's life and part of being in an alliance. When some are threatened, the rest respond. It's how it should be.

dont even recall an AJ Jones

the cost to your planets will be much higher than to you having to ppt and nox. I know how much you guys spend on your planets, its quite a lot...

fleet capacity from 50,000 to 700,000 will cost 2,437,503,250,000,000 Naquadah.

I could do that with like $70 and have naq left over, and just pop on for a min and cost you guys Quads upon Quads... ... food for thought...

It's the joys of peacetime. People always invest in planets. Generally those planets pay themselves back the investment put in. There's no such thing as a safe planet though and it's always a risk. Fortunately we've had, for the most part, peacetime over the past year so the planets have been a good return on investment. Doesn't mean it's a good thing to lose them, but there are no stats that, if lost, are the end of the world.

There are far bigger things in this life to get worked up about.

Mathlord wrote:It's the joys of peacetime. People always invest in planets. Generally those planets pay themselves back the investment put in. There's no such thing as a safe planet though and it's always a risk. Fortunately we've had, for the most part, peacetime over the past year so the planets have been a good return on investment. Doesn't mean it's a good thing to lose them, but there are no stats that, if lost, are the end of the world.

There are far bigger things in this life to get worked up about.

Your right Mathlord. All income planets pays back fast. Its always abd to be on critical and nox. And its always bad to loose units, weapons, planets, MS... but everything can be renuilt... an so far... m not doing more dmg than what the profit of planets should be. But cant take all of them... so yes... I wont hurt everyone, just few.

Also, I at least gave you many hints and info about this comming. Everyone in TAF had time to set up and prepare. If I wante to be **Filtered** I would levae TL and right after that mass for much hcepaer cost.

But... all this NG multi crap talks are fun after all... and I think this turned to NG multies ID hunting... you will blame everyone who dont tell whats his multi ID. So far, thats the wish of TAF members... but not the wish of everyone. You should maybe respect that...

but yes, your right, you can acuse everyone and anyone like I sayd... I will tell you guys my multi NG ID soon... till that time, think about how and why is this issue... not whos the hiden layer with NG multi...