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caesar2 wrote:
WAR!

PS: and no pacts or NAPs with DDE in future... not after this one not a clean war, not a honor... dirty bad war, like in old times of GW

Ok

Dont let me down

I've got 10 naq , that C2 is massively underwhelming.... any takers???

Guild wrote:I've got 10 naq , that C2 is massively underwhelming.... any takers???

ill take that bet. Gotta show some support for our lil TO protege!

Brdavs wrote:LoL I should have known something is gonna blow up when I built my def, it always happens, me and a def just aren't compatible.

I want a word with whoever invented DRAs, not a single one didn't end up costing more than it enabled in "legit hits".

At the very least DRA caused tension for us to war. So there's that!

The first I heard of DRA was from the former TL leader actually.

-KJ

no free nuts

wow.

Good Luck to my friends in DDE, but...as TL was once my home I have to cheer for them.

I have to admit, I do find the general idea of the DRA confusing, despite previously arguing for them in my position as a diplomat, all it really does is wind up the people getting farmed.

During my time in TL, there were numerous times I could have farmed DDE/OE/TAF/etc within the terms of the DRA, but I refrained, if only to preserve the peace we had. (oh and i'm very bad with ratios... )

again, good luck and have fun.

Antz wrote:wow.

Good Luck to my friends in DDE, but...as TL was once my home I have to cheer for them.

I have to admit, I do find the general idea of the DRA confusing, despite previously arguing for them in my position as a diplomat, all it really does is wind up the people getting farmed.

During my time in TL, there were numerous times I could have farmed DDE/OE/TAF/etc within the terms of the DRA, but I refrained, if only to preserve the peace we had. (oh and i'm very bad with ratios... )

again, good luck and have fun.

Originally - the ex TL leader proposed it to prevent war - basically in cases of missed PPT's you could grab it. It was NOT to be used for farming or catching people online farming. And any disrespect would not be tolerated.
DDE rejected this proposal with all other alliances, TL were the ONLY alliance we were prepared to work more closely with on this as per TL's request. (but were notified that any stepping over the line or abuse of DRA would always be met with massing) obviously treaty's such as this will never work with DDE.


My members have been actually turn-farmed on ascended where TL ignores our PM's. Everyone knows DDE solves all problems with warring. When in doubt : mass. Although it did not work on phone the other day... in fact it's more broken now. But this is who we are.

-KJ

Antz wrote:wow.

Good Luck to my friends in DDE, but...as TL was once my home I have to cheer for them.

I have to admit, I do find the general idea of the DRA confusing, despite previously arguing for them in my position as a diplomat, all it really does is wind up the people getting farmed.

During my time in TL, there were numerous times I could have farmed DDE/OE/TAF/etc within the terms of the DRA, but I refrained, if only to preserve the peace we had. (oh and i'm very bad with ratios... )

again, good luck and have fun.

finaly someone made a good post

Kjarkur wrote:

Antz wrote:wow.

Good Luck to my friends in DDE, but...as TL was once my home I have to cheer for them.

I have to admit, I do find the general idea of the DRA confusing, despite previously arguing for them in my position as a diplomat, all it really does is wind up the people getting farmed.

During my time in TL, there were numerous times I could have farmed DDE/OE/TAF/etc within the terms of the DRA, but I refrained, if only to preserve the peace we had. (oh and i'm very bad with ratios... )

again, good luck and have fun.

Originally - the ex TL leader proposed it to prevent war - basically in cases of missed PPT's you could grab it. It was NOT to be used for farming or catching people online farming. And any disrespect would not be tolerated.
DDE rejected this proposal with all other alliances, TL were the ONLY alliance we were prepared to work more closely with on this as per TL's request.


My members have been actually turn-farmed on ascended where TL ignores our PM's. Everyone knows DDE solves all problems with warring. When in doubt : mass. Although it did not work on phone the other day... in fact it's more broken now. But this is who we are.

-KJ

It was NOT to be used for farming or catching people online farming.

<SNIP>

My members have been actually turn-farmed on ascended where TL ignores our PM's.

These line in particular irritates me, (no irritation from you kj), I'm sure that in the DRA wording it outlines that people who are online and farming are not to be hit. Turn farming is also mentioned.

As well as this, I'm sure that the DRA outlines not only state that the bare minimums are 5:1/10:1/20:1/50:1 (delete as appropriate) it also specifies that it's not the threshold for farming. Obviously in the past, several people have re-he-healy pushed the opposition with turn farming for only just over the limit (which of course is essentially a really slow mass considering weapon damage and troop kills.

After all, the DRA was put in place to ensure good relations are maintained regardless of the farming that takes place (be it within or outside of the DRA limits)

But...exactly as you said KJ, it was put in place so that if someone sees an attack that would truly be too good to be true (think trillions out on a 200b defence) there would be no hesitation to steal what you could and leave what doesn't get stolen.


but in regards to this situation, I know I can't speak as to specific details (both sides have their own version of events - this is a matter of fact) nor can i be certain that the DRA terms are the same as I remember, but this is irrelevant, two teams are at war and I for one can't wait to see some stats from it.




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R0B3RT wrote: finaly someone made a good post

thanks robert, I'd like to think that if I were still in TL, I'd be saying the same but I can't help but wonder if I would have remained as impartial if I was a part of it. Who knows really?

Antz wrote:

Kjarkur wrote:

Antz wrote:wow.

Good Luck to my friends in DDE, but...as TL was once my home I have to cheer for them.

I have to admit, I do find the general idea of the DRA confusing, despite previously arguing for them in my position as a diplomat, all it really does is wind up the people getting farmed.

During my time in TL, there were numerous times I could have farmed DDE/OE/TAF/etc within the terms of the DRA, but I refrained, if only to preserve the peace we had. (oh and i'm very bad with ratios... )

again, good luck and have fun.

Originally - the ex TL leader proposed it to prevent war - basically in cases of missed PPT's you could grab it. It was NOT to be used for farming or catching people online farming. And any disrespect would not be tolerated.
DDE rejected this proposal with all other alliances, TL were the ONLY alliance we were prepared to work more closely with on this as per TL's request.


My members have been actually turn-farmed on ascended where TL ignores our PM's. Everyone knows DDE solves all problems with warring. When in doubt : mass. Although it did not work on phone the other day... in fact it's more broken now. But this is who we are.

-KJ

It was NOT to be used for farming or catching people online farming.

<SNIP>

My members have been actually turn-farmed on ascended where TL ignores our PM's.

These line in particular irritates me, (no irritation from you kj), I'm sure that in the DRA wording it outlines that people who are online and farming are not to be hit. Turn farming is also mentioned.

As well as this, I'm sure that the DRA outlines not only state that the bare minimums are 5:1/10:1/20:1/50:1 (delete as appropriate) it also specifies that it's not the threshold for farming. Obviously in the past, several people have re-he-healy pushed the opposition with turn farming for only just over the limit (which of course is essentially a really slow mass considering weapon damage and troop kills.

After all, the DRA was put in place to ensure good relations are maintained regardless of the farming that takes place (be it within or outside of the DRA limits)

But...exactly as you said KJ, it was put in place so that if someone sees an attack that would truly be too good to be true (think trillions out on a 200b defence) there would be no hesitation to steal what you could and leave what doesn't get stolen.


but in regards to this situation, I know I can't speak as to specific details (both sides have their own version of events - this is a matter of fact) nor can i be certain that the DRA terms are the same as I remember, but this is irrelevant, two teams are at war and I for one can't wait to see some stats from it.

you and me both sister!!!

R0B3RT wrote:

Antz wrote:wow.

Good Luck to my friends in DDE, but...as TL was once my home I have to cheer for them.

I have to admit, I do find the general idea of the DRA confusing, despite previously arguing for them in my position as a diplomat, all it really does is wind up the people getting farmed.

During my time in TL, there were numerous times I could have farmed DDE/OE/TAF/etc within the terms of the DRA, but I refrained, if only to preserve the peace we had. (oh and i'm very bad with ratios... )

again, good luck and have fun.

finaly someone made a good post

i know craaaaazzyyyy innit and he is OE

R8™ [ The Legion - NeroTech] started hitting us ~DoMinium of RiCos so I guess it's war.

oh come on.

So i come out to play i start on DOC and alliance ppt just as im starting to have fun.

oh well lets see what DDE got, mini osiris 0red and again allaince ppt.

so lets see what the other alliances got and again alliance ppt.

nobody loves me

Mr qacol, its good to see you back in this however I was merley responding to this,

15:09 ~Qacol~~ [ ~DoMinium of RiCos - DaBeast] Angelis [ The Legion - Guardian] attack 15 Win

I will personally refrain from hitting any players who dont appear in our logs

R8
Enjoying the festivities

I was hitting accounts in the 500-600-700 pages and happen to see I hit him. I also got C2 officer in those pages...... Thanks for the welcome back.....


~Qacol~
Need to shake off the rust

R8 wrote: I will personally refrain from hitting any players who dont appear in our logs

R8
Enjoying the festivities

This.

I had the same idea until many appeared in my logs on ascended lulz.

MaxSterling wrote:The irony is that Rob actually didn't push for the massing. The rest of DoC, that were online, did. He just went along. Rob wanted to wait until KJ appeared online, but since KJ didn't... the mob had spoken.

I can vouch that this is true; I was one of the ones itching to mass and was severely disappointed when I thought we were gunna wait for KJ. And then my laptop started falling apart and I missed almost everything

~Tziki~ wrote:ive had no recent troubles so to which you speak i have no idea. and if dde is so insecure as to make threats as a result of constructive feedback then it really does make a statement doesnt it. Ive not insulted you, so dont be so keen to make threats.

For someone not involved in this war you got a lot to say so if you wanna talk why don't you use your account to say what you gotta say?

harchester wrote:i know craaaaazzyyyy innit and he is OE

It's 100% cause he's ex-AK