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to Tok_Ra - but the point IS to keep playing ascended - you have to be strong in the ascended plane to be able to keep all your forces in main at bay

Um..... Ive seen multiple times people threatend with massings on all servers they play on simply give out their ascended account name, along with the comment that they dont play it.

I think this shows something........

PEOPLE.
PLAY.
MAIN.
MORE

What does the acronym or that, PPMM, mean ? I dunno, but annoying pointless acronyms are fun.

Having your hard work ruined just because you didnt want to play a new game instead of man, thats pointless too. I know Id leave the game if that happend.

Tok_Ra wrote:Having your hard work ruined just because you didnt want to play a new game instead of man, thats pointless too. I know Id leave the game if that happend.

that would be a good reason to not ascend. or in your case to descend yourself.

The point here is that you gain huge benefits to your main account by ascending once. Your weapons become nearly 2x as effective allowing you to suffer almost 1/2 the casualties during war. Additionally you can ascend up to 5 more times (not counting more since they are not worth it)for further bonuses that make your main account even more formidible. As a living god, I need about 15k weapons to match a goa'uld with 54,000 weapons. that is a monumental advantage.

This advantage isn't free. I worked for 6 months to get myself to a 6x living god. But besides that hard work I have an ascended account that admittedly had a horrible growth curve with not having the option of getting assistance from others but it is what it is. This server from its inception has been portrayed as a high risk server where you can in fact loose it all. This was the whole reason, in my oppinion, that forum created the server in the first place. So that the players could have the option of really hurting a player and still giving them their original account "somewhat" intact.

If this risk and the work involved isn't something that is worth it to you, then you should move back to a mortal race. You will have to fight harder to match those that do take the risk of ascension, but you will not be subject to the possible loss involved either.

Sounds like to me everyone against this has neglected their ascended account and are now all against descension because they ascended only for the bonuses. This was not the original point of ascension. Descension will affect main or what is the point to it?

Tok_Ra wrote:Um..... Ive seen multiple times people threatend with massings on all servers they play on simply give out their ascended account name, along with the comment that they dont play it.

I think this shows something........

PEOPLE.
PLAY.
MAIN.
MORE

What does the acronym or that, PPMM, mean ? I dunno, but annoying pointless acronyms are fun.

Having your hard work ruined just because you didnt want to play a new game instead of man, thats pointless too. I know Id leave the game if that happend.

If people play main more, then why all the whining about descension? If you were so worried about having your hard work ruined because you didnt want to play a new game, you shouldnt have ascended in the first place. Everyone has ALWAYS known that descension would be coming eventually.

Sleeper put it superbly:

Sleeper wrote:Sounds like to me everyone against this has neglected their ascended account and are now all against descension because they ascended only for the bonuses. This was not the original point of ascension. Descension will affect main or what is the point to it?

forums way of punishing the main account for one month then things going back, balances the different schools of thoughts on the punishment in main perfectly

There are ALOT of problems with taking away 5% from main .....losing things for 1 month all the bonuses is much much better......going from +30% on everything to +0% on everything for a MONTH is a BIG BIG BIG punishment
1 month in sgw is a lifetime

This was not the original point of ascension. Descension will affect main or what is the point to it?

Um..... lets see..... maybe cause some people only play main.

Ascension is hard(sih) work, especily for people that were new to the game before ascending (newish, again). It'd be a shame for lots of people (afterall, asencion has to have farms too) to get deascended cause someone wants points in asencion.

I believe descending someone will be costly to the attacker so people will only ascend those that they have grudges against if that is the case. However I agreee that kill points should be for bragging rights only and should grant no bonuses whatsoever this will keep people from randomly descending the weaker players.

i'll admit, i;ve neglected my physical realm in ascention. but my ascemnded self? it;s doing pretty good.

I think the rank cutoff should be such that if you do almost anything to your account, you cant be touched pretty much.

Maybe have a combination of inactivaty and rank used ot determine deasecion.

Plus no wasted turns on someone thats been inactive for ages (like since they got LG+3 )

Can we also clarify this point with forum

I think descension should be personal between the two beings concerned. It should NOT be a team effort. I would like to see this imposed, it would also have to involve an all out assault for at least 3 days consuming all resources for those days this can't be stopped by either party ( this would get round friends attacking you once to prevent enemies from properly attacking you! )

That way you would have to be serious about the desire to deascend another player. Losses 144 Turns Plus Life force gains and Dark Matter

After such a full on attack you would be protected against further attacks like this for at least a week no matter what the outcome.

Tok_Ra wrote:I think the rank cutoff should be such that if you do almost anything to your account, you cant be touched pretty much.

Maybe have a combination of inactivaty and rank used ot determine deasecion.

Plus no wasted turns on someone thats been inactive for ages (like since they got LG+3 )

then whats the point that would be rewarding the people who do not put in the work on ascended account by making them immune to descension while punishing those that have actually taken the time to build up their account by allowing them to be the only ones who can be descended.

As far as rank Use Life Force as a guide rather than absolute rank on physical plane

Sleeper wrote:

Tok_Ra wrote:I think the rank cutoff should be such that if you do almost anything to your account, you cant be touched pretty much.

Maybe have a combination of inactivaty and rank used ot determine deasecion.

Plus no wasted turns on someone thats been inactive for ages (like since they got LG+3 )

then whats the point that would be rewarding the people who do not put in the work on main account by making them immune to descension while punishing those that have actually taken the time to build up their account by allowing them to be the only ones who can be descended.

which makes connecting the two sercers seem kinda pointless doesnt it ?

Now: You want someones accounts dead ? You work hard in each server you want to hit him in and get a good account. You them pwn his punk arse in multiple servers while managing multiple accounts (Hopefully only 1 per server, but we all know how often that's ignored........


Proposed: You want someone hurt in main (say...... the GA/Faction war....) ? You havent played it in a while ? Your main game is the ascended server ? Then you just deascend someone, allowing htem to get hurt bad in main.

More sensable.......... You DeAscend them in Asencion server......... theyre stuck off of it for a few days, then stuck of PPT/Vac mode for another week or howelver long with reduced income. Your main account is unaffected.

Just to point out when the very first people ascended there was no mention of descension even existing, and i really dont give a **Filtered** what others have to say. leaks are not offical.

To make main bonuses go after descnsion permanently is stupid... it just means whoever is the best in main, got the best in ascension, and now can kill both at the same time.... and besides, if you take away the living god mark fom people, some have tons of UP now and could never ascend with that, left it too late to take bonuses from them now... 1month without bonuses is excellent

I completly agree with forums idea and can see why he is making it like it is, and I dont think you lot whining should make any difference to his plans....

1 thing i think needs to be there though, is you have to be in vacation in both servers at the same time

As for main effects being "bonuses" to play for ascended.. forum never said that himself, you just made it up