re: turns/turn ; superweapon bidding ; ascended attacks

[Forum]

ok - the other issue seems to be the superweapon change.
what has changed:
the DMU that the weapon sells for does not all go to the seller. Only a % does. The rest is dispersed across the cosmos...
Thats it. nothing else changed on the superweapon front...

<additional note: the other change not mentioned, but in place, is that when attacking someone with lower defence, the amount of losses the attacker suffers has been decreased. Any attack suffers losses (nature of leaving your realm with large numbers of beings with weapons:)) but the minimum loses are decreased by 10x or 1000% .... for risk of offending the lower ranked players (at least those with low/no defence), this is now also in trial....)

[Ston]

good solution and im sure even the strong guys can life with it!

[Aegidius]

The way the 'mbh or multidimensional black hole' works is that for each 800 ranks, an extra turn is given. so rank 1-800 get 1/turn. rank 801-1600 get 2/turn. 1601+ get 3/turn.

I guess some ppl talked too much before knowing what was the update about. Now I hope high ranked players wont be able to use it selling attack and going down until 800+ ranking to get x2 turns.

[EliteAceMan]

Spent all month getting close to the top 100, and now im penalised for it.... now how do i raise my rank!

[Aegidius]

Spent all month getting close to the top 100, and now im penalised for it.... now how do i raise my rank!

Doing the same thing u did until now. Things wont change for u with this update.

[Hansbrough]

Spent all month getting close to the top 100, and now im penalised for it.... now how do i raise my rank!

Doing the same thing u did until now. Things wont change for u with this update.

except bottom feeds can raid 2x and 3x as more, people who are now just figuring out the importance of playing ascension, but have had their accounts well over a year.

[Aegidius]

Spent all month getting close to the top 100, and now im penalised for it.... now how do i raise my rank!

Doing the same thing u did until now. Things wont change for u with this update.

except bottom feeds can raid 2x and 3x as more, people who are now just figuring out the importance of playing ascension, but have had their accounts well over a year.

isn't that good for the server? having more ppl raiding, growing faster? cathing up?

[Lord_Core]

what???

fleets update. That update alone has made it so the top players couldnt be reached. Because of the grosslly cheap rate of each click for a fleet to get more planets.

I didnt know that you fixed it, Mojo read my post and called me to inform me that you changed the cost of fleets and caped it at 60k. Seeing how no one was at that mark yet.

Like I said, you take away our turns for being in the top rank players. Perhaps you should give deascension turns to counter the turns we are losing. As well as protection from the super weapon.

What I mean is for every turn lost that the big players use give them a turn that can be used towards the 99 or so needed to deascend someone. So that the big guys have some way to protect themself from a random noob from getting super weapon and hitting them.

Like I said befor I'll go with the update as long as there is a balance factor for being top rank player sorta of some kind of system that you have in main.

[RobinInDaHood]

except bottom feeds can raid 2x and 3x as more, people who are now just figuring out the importance of playing ascension, but have had their accounts well over a year.

I haven't had my ascended account anywhere near a year and calling me a bottom feeder just hurts my delicate feelings.

Like I said, you take away our turns for being in the top rank players.

From what I read, you have exactly the same number of turns you had before. Did I misread that?

[Shooting Star]

OK so there is still a maximum amount of turns that you can accrue. Well that's a good thing I suppose. The DMU dispersion seems a little suspect to me, I guess we shall see what the "percentage" is. Still needs tweaking, I think. For those of you worried that the top guys can sell their strike and get down to rank 800, I do believe you sorely underestimate our account strengths. I haven't tried it but I would bet that I would probably still be in the top 100 even with 0 strike. I could be wrong (as I said, I haven't tried it) but I know a few people who were near the top who have sold their strike and are still in the 200 ranks. So we will not be able to "abuse" this without also selling our defense, covert, and assassin, which is something that I think is highly unlikely for any of us to do (at least for me).

Could you explain this dispersion of the auction money? Does it just disappear into the "black hole" that sucks all of our turns away, or does it disperse amongst all of the accounts in ascension? I would like to know.

Lastly, I would like to know why we are coddling the people who just use ascension as a means to power in main and don't play, yet complain when their accounts are threatened by descension? I am sick and tired of people saying that they can't catch up. Do you want to know how many APP total I have taken up with all seven of my ascensions combined? About 7.66 million. That's right. Only my sixth and seventh ascensions were above one million APP. My first ascension was a measly 5300 APP. Yep, you heard me. 5300 APP and I do believe at the time that I got about 10 LF per APP point. My next four ascensions weren't anything to write home about either. However, my sixth and seventh ascensions were 1.5 million APP and 6 million APP. Now with accounts getting up to 50 million UU in less than three months, it should be no problem for some of these people to do massive ascensions with massive amounts of UP and try and close the gap. You didn't play the server? Shame on you. Why should you get help now? You chose to quick ascend because you didn't want to lose a lot of resources in main and you wanted the 30% bonus really quickly. Good for you. But don't expect those of us who ascended slowly and with a purpose to have pity on you when your pathetic accounts get swept away in the storm.

I ask Forum to return ascension to what it was meant to be. Those who wanted a different challenge than main was providing. If you don't play ascension, you don't get bonuses in main. It's that simple. Your ascended self can't help you if he/she/it is on vacation.

I also have a suggestion for you. Allow those of us who have stopped ascending to use our massive resources in ascension to help better our main accounts. Here is what I mean: everyone in ascension is given the opportunity to use their ascended resources to both help their ascension account but also for certain benefits in main, if they so choose. But it is a one-way street. Once you have decided to help your main account, you may never ascend again. That would put the kibosh on people using their ascension accounts to better their main accounts in order to ascend with a huge amount of APP and thus turning it into a feeding frenzy. This would have two effects: first of all, it would allow those who are below us to catch up in ascension, if they have the drive and determination to do so and secondly, it would benefit those of us who committed a large amount of our resources in main to furthering our ascension accounts. We would have the choice to slow our growth in ascension for benefits in main. An idea that I find attractive would be the ability to buy powercells, much like was available in the quantum server (don't know if they still are as I have not played Quantum since it became "Who can spend the most cash?"). These can be purchased with DMU. You also might think about allowing us to transfer some of our planet growth ability to our main UP. This would slow down growth further in ascension for those that choose this option and allow others to catch up with us, again, if they have the drive and determination to do so. These solutions will help people catch up far more quickly than what you are suggesting. If those who chose not to sacrifice their main accounts to do huge ascensions want to catch up, give us the option of "sacrificing" our ascension accounts by not ascending again and using our ascension accounts to help out our main accounts. Believe you me, I would allow people to catch up to me in ascension if it meant that I could help my main account some.

[Dagormatix]

From what I read, you have exactly the same number of turns you had before. Did I misread that?

They are worth less because lower ranked (or higher depending on your semantics) players do not potentially have as many (provided they are consistently used before they hit the peak number of AT's held) :p

[General Cote]

to be blunt this update sux...As you know there is a huge war raging and lajh decided to mass my account with assassins killing nearly 1 million planets..o was like okay with my UP il be back up to normal in a week or two..but im also ranked 36 and now i can't even use my UP to help me REBUILD from war...this server sucks now..i could possibly just sell up

I think admin needs to think about what he just did..if he wants people to be able to catch up jus do the same thing as in main..set a limit

[Aegidius]

For those of you worried that the top guys can sell their strike and get down to rank 800, I do believe you sorely underestimate our account strengths. I haven't tried it but I would bet that

BELISKNER just massed me and I went from ranking 69 to 304 so I bet the big guys wont be able to use this update. Thats good news

[crazywolf]

Urm sorry could not really be bothered to read the whole thing, is this why my ascended account now makes a tenth of the income per day it used too? Why is it not attack turns, but all resources, I know it will be in here somewhere but cannot really be bothered to read and tell me how that is in anyway a good update?


And why was this not tested in the beta server first, I thought that was what it was for?

regards

[Aegidius]

Urm sorry could not really be bothered to read the whole thing, is this why my ascended account now makes a tenth of the income per day it used too? Why is it not attack turns, but all resources, I know it will be in here somewhere but cannot really be bothered to read and tell me how that is in anyway a good update?


And why was this not tested in the beta server first, I thought that was what it was for?

regards

pmd u with that info