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Great thread guys. :-) Gl with your job interview.
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Corran Horn wrote:well.. lads.. can i ask for some moral support?
i have a difficult interview for a job i really want on wed.
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Absolutly m8 I will pray it goes well if it has already happened

Lord_Zeus wrote:Great thread guys. :-) Gl with your job interview.


I am glad you have enjoyed the thread m8

Semper wrote:omg..im actually having to bite my hand to the point of bleeding to keep control when reading this thread. Im sorry, I respect men with beliefs, but by God that dosent mean it cant be entertaining.

....I can stop biting my hand now.


I am not 100% sure what you mean by that but I could fathom a guess, either way my msn is attached to my profile so if you believe these thoughts to be unfounded and feel the desire to voice your oppinion feel free to msn me m8. I am always glad to speak to someone who differs in their views.
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Hmm... Just now came across this thread. I'll be checking back here regularly though I think...

I'm fairly religious, yet sadly I don't think I'm very spiritual... :( Oh well, always something to improve.

BTW-amongst the Christians of the game-any MK's? If so I'd love to get in touch with you. Please PM me!
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cyberblade wrote:Hmm... Just now came across this thread. I'll be checking back here regularly though I think...

I'm fairly religious, yet sadly I don't think I'm very spiritual... :( Oh well, always something to improve.

BTW-amongst the Christians of the game-any MK's? If so I'd love to get in touch with you. Please PM me!



For those who may not know I believe he is refferring to a missionary kid by the term MK.

Also I am glad you will be stopping in, and if you have any questions there is like at least 5-6 pages of realy good info about Christianity. There are answers to some tough questions and some very well done clarifications to ideas about certain Christian doctrines. I realy wasnt sure what this would turn out to be but it seems that within this post you have fairly in depth explanation of the Christian Doctrine. Also I hope you will find this to be a place of refuge where people encourage and build each other up. Even when we disagree we can do so kindly and with a caring heart.

Then last you mentioned the issue of religiousness vs spirtuality in your life, I myself like to skip both those ideas and just follow the idea of a relationship with my God. I dont know if that is something that may be helpful to you but I find that sometimes the search for meaning within religion or spirtuality can be fleeting at the least but a relationship with the God of creation a perfect Father is always of immense value. :D
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WeaponZero wrote:
cyberblade wrote:Hmm... Just now came across this thread. I'll be checking back here regularly though I think...

I'm fairly religious, yet sadly I don't think I'm very spiritual... :( Oh well, always something to improve.

BTW-amongst the Christians of the game-any MK's? If so I'd love to get in touch with you. Please PM me!



For those who may not know I believe he is refferring to a missionary kid by the term MK.

Quite true. Sorry-I'm used to talking to people who know the term; I often forget to change the lingo when I change groups...

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Then last you mentioned the issue of religiousness vs spirtuality in your life, I myself like to skip both those ideas and just follow the idea of a relationship with my God. I dont know if that is something that may be helpful to you but I find that sometimes the search for meaning within religion or spirtuality can be fleeting at the least but a relationship with the God of creation a perfect Father is always of immense value. :D


While I agree with you that the personal relationship with God is of the utmost importance-biblically speaking, being part of a body of believers is also important. That said-my comment about religiosity vs spirituality is more of the technical definition-spirituality having to do with your personal spiritual life and religiosity being those things that outwardly noticeable (I hope that makes sense...)
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cyberblade wrote:
WeaponZero wrote:
cyberblade wrote:Hmm... Just now came across this thread. I'll be checking back here regularly though I think...

I'm fairly religious, yet sadly I don't think I'm very spiritual... :( Oh well, always something to improve.

BTW-amongst the Christians of the game-any MK's? If so I'd love to get in touch with you. Please PM me!



For those who may not know I believe he is refferring to a missionary kid by the term MK.

Quite true. Sorry-I'm used to talking to people who know the term; I often forget to change the lingo when I change groups...

....

Then last you mentioned the issue of religiousness vs spirtuality in your life, I myself like to skip both those ideas and just follow the idea of a relationship with my God. I dont know if that is something that may be helpful to you but I find that sometimes the search for meaning within religion or spirtuality can be fleeting at the least but a relationship with the God of creation a perfect Father is always of immense value. :D


While I agree with you that the personal relationship with God is of the utmost importance-biblically speaking, being part of a body of believers is also important. That said-my comment about religiosity vs spirituality is more of the technical definition-spirituality having to do with your personal spiritual life and religiosity being those things that outwardly noticeable (I hope that makes sense...)


Yes it makes sense m8 and I agree with you being a part of a congregation aka body of believers is very important indeed and i am glad you said that as I now relize some may have misiterpretted my remark as meaning church attendance is important. Thanks for helping clear that all up m8 :lol:
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well.. i'm not spiritual myself.. (my spirit consumption is under 5 litres per calendar year)...

seriously now.

i don't like that "go to church then and then", "pray at this and this time" thing. for me it has to come from within. i know many religious (going to church every sunday) ppl, but that is of no greater importance in their life. they do this cos "that's what one should do", "what the neighbours say" and such. it's more of a habit than building relationship with God.

my opinion is you should feel the need of being closer to God, then a sunday mass is not a "religious duty" but a deep personal spiritual experience.

so i'd say: pray and attend services whenever you feel deep inside you have some reason to talk to your God. of course, the more reasons ya can find, the better.
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It's true that you should feel inspired by God. But on the other hand, it is part of your duty to go to church etc.

Just like it's your duty to go to school before high school Just like it's your duty as a good citizen, to clean up after yourself. {They fine you if you litter}. It's a part of Christianity to go to church every Sunday.

You go to church and pray, not because you are inspired. In a way, you need to go to church less, if you are inspired. Because Church is somewhere where you can find inspiration if you are not inspired already. It's also a place where you can share your inspirations and reach out to those who aren't inspired, if you are.

It's a fellowship, a family. You don't ditch your family because you can't be "inspired" to wake up 8:30 on a weekend to attend a service.
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Asami Ayano wrote:It's true that you should feel inspired by God. But on the other hand, it is part of your duty to go to church etc.


3rd commandment wrote:Remember to keep holy the LORD'S Day.

it doesn't say "remember to go to church". keep it holy - the spirit is important, not mere showing up in a church.

"This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me." In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.

it doesn't say how often you should do it. just that we should.


{They fine you if you litter}

*looks around*
*notices filth and litter on the street*
:smt011 ...here they don't


Because Church is somewhere where you can find inspiration if you are not inspired already.

agreed. the question is: doesn't it require a "need for inspiration"? cos some (most?) ppl just don't bother...
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I don't know about the rest of you, but I feel like I am missing out on something if I DON'T go to church every Sunday. I have missed the last two Sundays because of illness and it makes me very sad. I don't go to church because I feel compelled to; I go to church because I WANT to go and worship my God, with others of my faith who want to worship their God. It's a weekly family reunion. I relish it.
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Corran Horn wrote:
Asami Ayano wrote:It's true that you should feel inspired by God. But on the other hand, it is part of your duty to go to church etc.


3rd commandment wrote:Remember to keep holy the LORD'S Day.

it doesn't say "remember to go to church". keep it holy - the spirit is important, not mere showing up in a church.

"This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me." In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.

it doesn't say how often you should do it. just that we should.


{They fine you if you litter}

*looks around*
*notices filth and litter on the street*
:smt011 ...here they don't


Because Church is somewhere where you can find inspiration if you are not inspired already.

agreed. the question is: doesn't it require a "need for inspiration"? cos some (most?) ppl just don't bother...



stop making such complicated quotes that I can't bother figuring out...

then:

First, when the lord revealed that commandment, he meant that it shall be kept holy, meaning that it will be devoted to him. One way of doing that is to go worship. The spirit is important, but I think we all know that if you stay home, the most you'll do is pray for 5 minutes then play halo. Also, even if you know you can keep it holy by devoting it to god, you should share and rejoice in your faith by sharing it with your peers, and church is a perfect way to do that. Tell me one deeply religious man or woman, who doesn't go to church.

True, he doesn't tell you how much to do. But neither does he explain to you the way you should live your life. He doesn't tell you how many times you need to pray a day, or how often you should do this or that. But the view that, it doesn't tell me to do it, so I won't do it, is childish. If you are truly devoted, you would want to bask in the lord's light everyday, every hour. Eating the bread and drinking the wine is merely symbolism.

Well, where I live, they fine you if you litter. Also, when they do street cleaning, if your car is blocking the way, they give you a ticket. It's pretty clean around here. I'm part of the environmental commission that takes care of recycling and environmental awareness, and we do a lot of stuff within the community to try to solve the problem and make the world a better place. God didn't give us resources to squander.

I respect people's need to not bother. And I would hope to help them see my point of view, but I won't push it. If they don't bother, then they have rejected God, and I don't, then see, the relavence to the thread. How can they reject God and still call themselves Christians?
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Mojo Rising wrote:I don't know about the rest of you, but I feel like I am missing out on something if I DON'T go to church every Sunday. I have missed the last two Sundays because of illness and it makes me very sad. I don't go to church because I feel compelled to; I go to church because I WANT to go and worship my God, with others of my faith who want to worship their God. It's a weekly family reunion. I relish it.


Me too!

Worship really calms me down. I get all jittery if I don't go, like I'm missing a part of my life.
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Asami Ayano wrote: He doesn't tell you how many times you need to pray a day, or how often you should do this or that. But the view that, it doesn't tell me to do it, so I won't do it, is childish.

agreed. and this is not my view. i was criticizing certain attitude:
Corran Horn wrote:for me it has to come from within. i know many religious (going to church every sunday) ppl, but that is of no greater importance in their life. they do this cos "that's what one should do", (...) it's more of a habit than building relationship with God.

in other words: if ya don't really bother, please don't show off how "good Christian" are ya.
(it's cos someone, who doesn't care about God in her everyday life criticized me for not showing up on sunday mass lately)



Asami Ayano wrote:Well, where I live, they fine you if you litter. (...) It's pretty clean around here.

where d'ya live btw? cos when i hear "it's clean here" i think "switzerland".




Asami Ayano wrote:if your car is blocking the way, they give you a ticket.

that's why the quote in yer sig? ;)
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