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KnowLedge wrote:Germ vs holland is the match ppl wanna see, nothing else

If we are at what "people" wanna see ( ) some wanted Argentina vs Brazil, England vs Italy etc...as final match.

N Spainidh games have been the most boring games out of all worldcup, I foupt next one will even be worth watching

Do you even know what football is to say something as wrong as that Spain is boring?
Hahahaha that's definitely hillarious so much wrong that is!

Pedro, Ramos and Iniesta were sooo boring, oh yes, football is totally not about dribbles to entertain! Brazil are boring too, they dribble too much, how boring can they be!

I have seen many people who said they would be supporting Spain for the exact reason they considered Spain to be last representant of technical/enjoying to watch football opposed to robotic like football from Germany considering the saying "other teams play, and Germany wins the match" (even though Spain won the match by playing but some people say it was boring to see dribbles and all, duh). Given Brazil and the likes were out.
So it looks like there's many people who completly disagree with you there!

Clarkey wrote:

Leg Apophis wrote:

Quoting myself for second or third time wrote:Just like same could have been said about Argentina then.
Considering what they did before facing Germany, and during that particular match where they were defeated greatly by 4-0 and completly dominated by Germany.

lol look at you keep quoting yourself because someone claims Germany were paid to lose. LMAO Pops you really know how to advertise which buttons people need to press and you just let them mass them buttons away! lol!

Probably because they cry about something that happend to Germany this match, which funnily happend to team they beat on their previous (being beaten and not able to do anything about it.
Thus, given that, quietness about "omg they were paid to lose" would be wise given the defeat they gave to Argentina, which if we are to be all-paranoid about cheating everywhere, can be also considered as "suspicious".

solmyr wrote:

KnowLedge wrote:Germ vs holland is the match ppl wanna see, nothing else

Bye Spain did have an easier route then germ.
Not to mention the money spanish have to bribe with..

Also loss of ballack and meuller, all this shows germ shoulda won but they got won

Anyways I like to believe that the germens were bribed. N Spainidh games have been the most boring games out of all worldcup, I foupt next one will even be worth watching

due you are the biggest sourpuss here its ridiculous. the teams that are in the final earnt it and deserve it. fottballs a cutthroat game, 90mins and anything can happen, anyone can win. germany were not good enough on the day and lost. that simple.

Exactly..
Spain was the #1 favorite when world cup started, defeat against Switzerland brought doubt, but now, Spain are just living by what expected from them.
It's not the 60's or 70's anymore guys, when two or three teams were bound to go to final and beat anything inbetween.

My opinion... (Germany was my no. 1 favourite for the WC trophy, btw)


The Germans were not paid to lose - that's BS (though, with the gambling mafias nowadays, it is easy to suspect such - I do not think that a WC match can be bought, no matter how much money is involved).


Spain had a perfect tactical game and they had some luck by scoring quite late in the game (if Spain had scored earlier, i think Germany could have made a draw 1-1 eventualy, by putting pressure on them and throwing all the balls to their strikers - skipping the combinations). Germany had no solutions to break Spain's defense and if i look backwards in all the tournament, i can now be very sure that Spain has the best defense of all the teams... firstly because they keep the ball possession and 2ndly because they play like a team, did you noticed how fast they move on the pitch everytime 2-3 players quickly surrounding the adversary who has the ball?


For the final Nederland is my no.1 favourite, but if they play like the germans, they will have the same fate, even though Robben and Snejder are better than Sweinsteigger or Ozil.

My Prediction is PAIN...

The Dutch are just Toooooooo classy for Spain...

I have $100 on the Dutch to dish out a good round of Pain on the Spanish side....

Orange is my Favorite Color...


Goooooooooo the mighty Dutch....

Anyway this final is exactly what I wanted since Portugal was eliminated (if Portugal won against Spain, I'd have wanted Portugal vs Netherlands).
Netherlands vs Spain, what I was looking for!
The two teams who had most victories in last few years, and neither ever won a world cup final, so it was justice for them both to be there.

Spain really deserves it, they never went to a world cup final match before, and have been among best nations in last few years, so it's a good thing to see them in final.

Leg Apophis wrote:Anyway this final is exactly what I wanted since Portugal was eliminated (if Portugal won against Spain, I'd have wanted Portugal vs Netherlands).
Netherlands vs Spain, what I was looking for!
The two teams who had most victories in last few years, and neither ever won a world cup final, so it was justice for them both to be there.

Spain really deserves it, they never went to a world cup final match before, and have been among best nations in last few years, so it's a good thing to see them in final.

I love how you disqualify yourself by supporting cheaters. Very consistent. First you support France, who cheat and blow up rather than face their own egos, so you are disappointed and support Portugal. Divers extraordinaire, extramarital fathers, and a generally absurd amount of ego don't get them very far in the World Cup, so you switch to Spain. Haven't you read up on the gory scandals surrounding Spain? Did you know, for example, that 'Del Bosque' was a Catholic priest before becoming a coach? Do you want to know his reasons? "Boys will be boys." And Fabregas? As soon as he sets foot on African soil -and thus gets his participation bonus- he 'injures' himself, screwing everyone who expected glorious football from him. Villa? Oh my, don't even start.. Ego the size of a mastodon, zero regard for his fellow team players, and socialising? What's that, a disease?


Whereas my support has been: The Netherlands. Stout, proud, and efficient. Why bother with monster scores if you can get the same points with one goal difference?

I'm going for Spain.

Also how did Spain have an easier route then Germany?

Germany vs England who can't play as a team 4-1
Germany vs Argentina a team who had no defensive structure and a keeper who makes Robert Green look like a god 4-0

Spain vs Portugal another highly ranked team with great attacking and defending players 1-0

So if you're going by big names yeah Germany had a tougher route, the blind school and the bullies. Spain just had to overcome the Portuguese which any team could do in their sleep (Cote d'Ivoire and Brazil especially)

Uruguay had the easiest route but they had to cheat along the way and they still didn't make it

Juliette wrote:

Leg Apophis wrote:Anyway this final is exactly what I wanted since Portugal was eliminated (if Portugal won against Spain, I'd have wanted Portugal vs Netherlands).
Netherlands vs Spain, what I was looking for!
The two teams who had most victories in last few years, and neither ever won a world cup final, so it was justice for them both to be there.

Spain really deserves it, they never went to a world cup final match before, and have been among best nations in last few years, so it's a good thing to see them in final.

I love how you disqualify yourself by supporting cheaters. Very consistent. First you support France, who cheat and blow up rather than face their own egos, so you are disappointed and support Portugal. Divers extraordinaire, extramarital fathers, and a generally absurd amount of ego don't get them very far in the World Cup, so you switch to Spain. Haven't you read up on the gory scandals surrounding Spain? Did you know, for example, that 'Del Bosque' was a Catholic priest before becoming a coach? Do you want to know his reasons? "Boys will be boys." And Fabregas? As soon as he sets foot on African soil -and thus gets his participation bonus- he 'injures' himself, screwing everyone who expected glorious football from him. Villa? Oh my, don't even start.. Ego the size of a mastodon, zero regard for his fellow team players, and socialising? What's that, a disease?


Whereas my support has been: The Netherlands. Stout, proud, and efficient. Why bother with monster scores if you can get the same points with one goal difference?

I could not have said it better myself....

Go you mighty Dutch....

Juliette wrote:

Leg Apophis wrote:Anyway this final is exactly what I wanted since Portugal was eliminated (if Portugal won against Spain, I'd have wanted Portugal vs Netherlands).
Netherlands vs Spain, what I was looking for!
The two teams who had most victories in last few years, and neither ever won a world cup final, so it was justice for them both to be there.

Spain really deserves it, they never went to a world cup final match before, and have been among best nations in last few years, so it's a good thing to see them in final.

I love how you disqualify yourself by supporting cheaters.

Well, I know that many people on medias are angry at Robben simulating just before first goal against brazil, and Van Bommel careless hard play, but well, I don't mind to "disqualify" myself to support "cheaters" as you call them.

Or, maybe, you refer to sore loser behaviour regarding nonsense accusations of "bribering" of Spain to Germany, just like it could be suspicious regarding Argentina's big defeat?
Where's the "set an example" behaviour after defeat? No more accusing me of taking defeats wrong way after those comments about Spain's victory...

Very consistent. First you support France, who cheat and blow up rather than face their own egos, so you are disappointed and support Portugal. Divers extraordinaire, extramarital fathers, and a generally absurd amount of ego don't get them very far in the World Cup, so you switch to Spain. Haven't you read up on the gory scandals surrounding Spain? Did you know, for example, that 'Del Bosque' was a Catholic priest before becoming a coach? Do you want to know his reasons? "Boys will be boys." And Fabregas? As soon as he sets foot on African soil -and thus gets his participation bonus- he 'injures' himself, screwing everyone who expected glorious football from him. Villa? Oh my, don't even start.. Ego the size of a mastodon, zero regard for his fellow team players, and socialising? What's that, a disease?

I support who I support, I see no point in looking who's the team who did this that etc. You know what? I support teams I LIKE, not those who are glorious awesome multiple world cup winners. I like Portugal, I like Spain, I am French, IT IS LIKE THAT . I also like Netherlands, so I'm curious what you would say about that lol.

You and all your accusations about me being a so called traitor (rofl) and now I should join the band of the vomit throwers against France just because of a hand by Henry? (Because all this stuff is older than the foolish behaviour they had in world cup) I'm losing the logic here, I thought I was a traitor to France, and now I'm blamed to support it?

I don't care what the low level newspapers scandals fed tell about this or that person, it's not my interest.

Whereas my support has been: The Netherlands. Stout, proud, and efficient. Why bother with monster scores if you can get the same points with one goal difference?

I prefer by FAR supporting Portugal & Spain than North Korea, who might not be a wrong team by themselves, but what's behind it is far worse than any latin team! (their midget dictator and the way he treats his population).

No team is 100% clean, that's how it is. I don't see why I should support teams like a sheep like others might, just because they are world champs yadda yadda.

EDIT: supporting was probably not the exact word, following/cheering for is more likely, excepted France, which I support.

I'm sure if it were a diving competition spain would win, but Robben would still give it his best.

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lol, look at him go

I'm still curious about who I should be meant to sell myself to, due to exemplary behaviour of said team(s) who aren't cheating and who would deserve my selling to.
Not that I intend to sell myself, but I'm just curious...

I think you mean "Support" not "Sell".

Sell sounds kinda wrong.

Thriller wrote:I think you mean "Support" not "Sell".

Sell sounds kinda wrong.

No, I meant sell. Because when you support team(s) and xyz reasons lead you to change to other team(s), it's a sell, because you switch original allegiance(s) to something else and thus cannot be considered as a true supporter.
Rotative supporting with different team(s) sets every season/cup, because former supporter team(s) aren't good enough/are suspected to cheat/are bound to lose/aren't "cool anymore", I consider as selling, because your allegiance is fake and motivated by other means than team itself and all what it induces.
Example: selling yourself to most "political correct/fair" team which is least likely to lose/cheat/be mentionned in scandals etc...while this team wasn't among team(s) you supported before, and has nothing to do with you, but because they are "better" than others you decide to support them. When they change and don't remain the "best" anymore, your allegiance changes asap. That's what I'm talking about, Thriller.

Leg Apophis wrote:I'm still curious about who I should be meant to sell myself to, due to exemplary behaviour of said team(s) who aren't cheating and who would deserve my selling to.
Not that I intend to sell myself, but I'm just curious...

Well when you decide let us know. Let's not have to read, who should i sell myself too?

And I agree with Thriller that comment sounds utterly wrong. You make yourself sound like a prostitute.

Clarkey wrote:

Leg Apophis wrote:I'm still curious about who I should be meant to sell myself to, due to exemplary behaviour of said team(s) who aren't cheating and who would deserve my selling to.
Not that I intend to sell myself, but I'm just curious...

Well when you decide let us know. Let's not have to read, who should i sell myself too?

And I agree with Thriller that comment sounds utterly wrong. You make yourself sound like a prostitute.

Probably because I don't hold in high esteem at all, this kind of behaviour to seek teams who are awesome and then abandon them as soon as they aren't that awesome anymore.
I consider that as selling oneself.

Sounds like your trying to rationalize some childish view of partiotism/loyalty you put beleif in.

When i support a team, it doesn't follow that i identify them as some abstract part of my being. It means i enjoy watching them play and want them to succeed.

Everyone has their favorites but it's not a bad thing to be open minded enough to cheer for other teams outside of the ones you traditionally cheer for