Community opinion on the job Eros did as ombudsperson

[Psi Kiya Trist]

Some people are too easily persuaded by the mods and their propoganda.

A person can very obviously see that Spacey was being witty and called me a woman. Two hours later he said he didnt mean it, but you cant call someone a name and two hours later be like I didn't mean it.

During my time I have surveyed the community, studied the moderators, read their ENTIRE board, and made a single sugestion.
You may think that's not much, but I was only ombudsman for LESS THAN 24 HOURS before I got kicked!

i haven't spoken to any mods since this incident started. i still think you're full of hogwash.

spacey isn't the type of person to try to be witty like that. anyone from the spam temple would tell you that.

aside from that, you failed to live up to your duties because you did not negotiate. you demanded. that's not negotiating. by doing so, you proved your inability to hold your position.

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~

[Almost38]

psi u should make this a poll;)

[Psi Kiya Trist]

psi u should make this a poll;)

this poll is post based. polls are easily rigged.

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~

[Almost38]

but im sure people arnet post because they may be massed by eros but there is no true well to tell

[Severian]

If the mods felt it immature,

Did they Ignore it and let Eros post without getting any responces.
Or
Did they sink to his "level" and give a reaction to each action of his.

Food for thought.

What has Auriel done to the community, pretenting to be other people, coma's death, comming back and not only that, but becomming a mod who people are to respect. Was allowed to keep the position.

What has Freesprit done to the community, the stir he has caused time and time again, making false accounts and abusing his position? Was allowed to Keep the position.

Dadigi. massive stir and community uproar, still mod likewise. Made a *MASSIVE* fuss of not being called a woman. Same thing. Was allowed to Keep the position.

Mods are positions of reponcibility and of trust and of cool heads. All the above made massive amounts of mistakes and allowed to keep their positions.

Eros. One mistake, One Fuss. Out with no community consultation for removing the man meant to represent them.

More food for thought.

Not taking sides, but context and prescident is a beautiful thing.

[Almost38]

If the mods felt it immature,

Did they Ignore it and let Eros post without getting any responces.
Or
Did they sink to his "level" and give a reaction to each action of his.

Food for thought.

What has Auriel done to the community, pretenting to be other people, coma's death, comming back and not only that, but becomming a mod who people are to respect. Was allowed to keep the position.

What has Freesprit done to the community, the stir he has caused time and time again, making false accounts and abusing his position? Was allowed to Keep the position.

Dadigi. massive stir and community uproar, still mod likewise. Made a *MASSIVE* fuss of not being called a woman. Same thing. Was allowed to Keep the position.

Mods are positions of reponcibility and of trust and of cool heads. All the above made massive amounts of mistakes and allowed to keep their positions.

Eros. One mistake, One Fuss. Out with no community consultation for removing the man meant to represent them.

More food for thought.

Not taking sides, but context and prescident is a beautiful thing.

you made some great points there

[Asami Ayano]

Because each of them said "I realize I was wrong, I'm sorry. I will try my best to change for the better."

That is what makes the difference.

Each of them did pay in his or her own way.
Dadigi and Auriel are no longer mods.
Freespirit is no longer Admin.

So far, all of them have been on good behavior.
Eros, on the otherhand, refuses to change, and continues to challenge and assult, not just the mods, but the admins who removed him.

Since this is an opinion poll, this is my opinion:
Eros should be suspended for disruptive behavior and rudeness to the mods and the community.

@Judochop:
What is in a name? Judochop is a name you created. Asami Ayano is the name I created. Yes, it doesn't match my Ingame, but what does it matter? I don't wish to be judged by what I do ingame.

To each his own. I chose to use reason, you chose to use force.

[Almost38]

Because each of them said "I realize I was wrong, I'm sorry. I will try my best to change for the better."

That is what makes the difference.

Each of them did pay in his or her own way.
Dadigi and Auriel are no longer mods.
Freespirit is no longer Admin.

So far, all of them have been on good behavior.
Eros, on the otherhand, refuses to change, and continues to challenge and assult, not just the mods, but the admins who removed him.

Since this is an opinion poll, this is my opinion:
Eros should be suspended for disruptive behavior and rudeness to the mods and the community.

@Judochop:
What is in a name? Judochop is a name you created. Asami Ayano is the name I created. Yes, it doesn't match my Ingame, but what does it matter? I don't wish to be judged by what I do ingame.

To each his own. I chose to use reason, you chose to use force.

every1 wanted free to quit or be fired and people still do and same with dadigi

[DarkAnubis]

You basically just fired someone you just hired... Why even hire them in the first place? You hired him, because you felt he was right for the job. 24 hours laiter, he does something little thus u fire him. We all make mistakes, i think i have made the most mistakes out of everyone here. So i know exactly about crap like this. This isnt about me though. You once entrusted him with a job to do. Then removed him before he actually had a chance to do his job. Removing someone from there position within a day is just down right silly. No matter what way you look at it! Balor made a good point. You all made mistakes as well. Punishing someone for their first is just retarded.

What Spacey wrote can be interpreted as or as not an insult its a matter of opinion, and that eros had a valid reason to do what he did.

[Asami Ayano]

Well, the mods did choose him, but based on the recommendation that he would be more mature etc.

But his position is to be a mediator, aka a person who is able to talk to both mods and community. Just like in the real world, you can be hired one day to type. Then they find out you don't speak the language or know how to type it, you are fired.

It's about ability to perform the job, not wether or no he got it in the first place.

[Ero`Sore]

I just find it funny on how Psi wants the community's opinion on the job I did as an ombudsman when I had less than 24 hours of appointment...

Even God needed 7 days.. heh..

[Phoenix of Terra]

Quality over quantity. Sure not true all the time, but a golden phrase in this case. Its not how much time you used but how you used it.

[Ero`Sore]

Are you serious? LOL.. You try finding the people, identifying the problems, finding the solutions, and suggesting ways to fix them in less than a day

[Phoenix of Terra]

Whose complaints were you addressing when you went into Respect group?

Or when you chose to argue over the ombudswoman comment?

Are there PMs of people who had specific issues?

Or did you decide that you had a mandate of the people because under 40 people in a community of thousands nominated you for ombudsman? Do you realize that their are 171 pages of members, all but the last one containing 50 names. Sure, many of those people might not be on the forum anymore. Others may be multis. But considering that fourty that nominated you (and that's probably giving ten or so votes) wouldn't even cover one of the 171 pages, less than 1% of the registered users, nearly .5%, you in no way have the right to claim to be suddenly divinely gifted to judge the actions of the people, especially since (ironically) the community only nominated you to a final selection bid where the mods chose you for the position, so the story goes.

Eros, you were given twenty four hours and pubically chose to use your newly appointed office as a platform from which to better snipe a mod whose words you misinterpretted (who has claimed multiple times that he had no intention of referring to you as a woman) and you allowed your pride to make you stubborn and your temper to make you rash, two traits that might allow you to become a dogged opponent or determined investigator, but also are terrible attributes for someone who is to bridge a gap between two peoples, in this case the community and the mods.

The ombudsman is supposed to take the problems of community about moderators to admin if a member can not solve their own issues. Sucah a job would require patience and a clear head to get to the bottom of an issue. In twenty four hours, you showed yourself lacking in both cases, which is why I say, "Quality of quantity." It's not the time, it's how you used it.

[Ero`Sore]

Whose complaints were you addressing when you went into Respect group?

I was not addressing a complaint, I made a positive suggestion on how to improve the Respect Group. Is there a rule in the ombudsman manual that says you cannot make suggestions or have opinions?

Or when you chose to argue over the ombudswoman comment?

Your question shows how incapable you are of thinking. I was called a woman. Whose complaint do you think I addressed of Spacey calling me a woman?

Or did you decide that you had a mandate of the people because under 40 people in a community of thousands nominated you for ombudsman? Do you realize that their are 171 pages of members, all but the last one containing 50 names. Sure, many of those people might not be on the forum anymore. Others may be multis. But considering that fourty that nominated you (and that's probably giving ten or so votes) wouldn't even cover one of the 171 pages, less than 1% of the registered users, nearly .5%, you in no way have the right to claim to be suddenly divinely gifted to judge the actions of the people, especially since (ironically) the community only nominated you to a final selection bid where the mods chose you for the position, so the story goes.

How do you expect me to represent the 171 pages of members that do not talk to me? I represented anyone who approached me, and there was only 1 person in the 24 hours. A person with a complaint about Nimras, which I was investigating at the time.

Therefore in the <24 hours I had, I chose to get to know the moderators and what they went through. I read their entire section, which is a very interesting read I have saved, and I simply observed (while also making a few suggestions such as the respect group and rules). By the time I was finished, the last 10-20 replies in their section was from me.

You need to realize that a newly elected ombudsman's name does not glide through everyone's information within the first day. Many people did not know I was ombudsman, which is why I made a ombudsman signature and included a phrase that if anyone had an issue with a moderator, that they could contact me.

I did my job to the best of my ability in the little time I had.





Nice try mate, but not good enough. Who's next?