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Re: Descending
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:46 pm
by | Nemesis |
Main thing to look out for is to see if there active or not! If they are then its practically impossible to deascend them unless ofc there having a rough time in RL or a bit newbie
Its going to take you a minimum of 9 hours to deascend anyone regaurdless! 4 hits is the minimum needed as you are capped to a maximum of 1/3 there total LF reserve so u need 3 hits for that then another hit for there natural LF regeneration as each hit has to be 3 hours apart
Re: Descending
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:47 pm
by Lore
| Nemesis | wrote:Main thing to look out for is to see if there active or not! If they are then its practically impossible to deascend them unless ofc there having a rough time in RL or a bit newbie
Its going to take you a minimum of 9 hours to deascend anyone regaurdless! 4 hits is the minimum needed as you are capped to a maximum of 1/3 there total LF reserve so u need 3 hits for that then another hit for there natural LF regeneration as each hit has to be 3 hours apart
Thats if you can do the 1/3 or max damage
Re: Descending
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:10 am
by urogard
Lore wrote:Thats if you can do the 1/3 or max damage
and that's impossible if the attacker is even twice as powerful as defender.
if two equal people want to descend each other, both will need 5-6 hits at least if not more
Re: Descending
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:03 am
by fremen
I think it would take 30-100 hits for me to descend someone comparable to me with stats. Which is a small problem since no one has that many turns. And good grief, think of the time!
Re: Descending
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:31 am
by ksvisa
fremen wrote:I think it would take 30-100 hits for me to descend someone comparable to me with stats. Which is a small problem since no one has that many turns. And good grief, think of the time!
Nobody have this AT alone... but a group of players...
Re: Descending
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:48 am
by fremen
Ascension encourages solo game play. Prove who can stand the highest. Just because alliances play a major role on politics does not mean they are taken into consideration for warfare techniques, except to minimize their importance.
Re: Descending
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:33 am
by Lore
fremen wrote:Ascension encourages solo game play. Prove who can stand the highest. Just because alliances play a major role on politics does not mean they are taken into consideration for warfare techniques, except to minimize their importance.
Problem is Admin says he wants "solo" gameplay, but makes updates that effectively kill any chance of "solo" gameplay.
I'm looking at someone about 60% of my power. This is size and stats. It will take me 11 hits or 33 hrs to deascend this person, thats well over a full day.
Re: Descending
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:53 am
by | Nemesis |
Lore wrote:Problem is Admin says he wants "solo" gameplay, but makes updates that effectively kill any chance of "solo" gameplay.
I'm looking at someone about 60% of my power. This is size and stats. It will take me 11 hits or 33 hrs to deascend this person, thats well over a full day.
Is that me
but anyway would be nice if i could actually deascend players but instead whenever i try it my inbox gets spammed with cocky messages because they know that its practilly impossible for me deascend them dispite the large difference in account strength

Re: Descending
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:42 pm
by Lore
| Nemesis | wrote:Lore wrote:Problem is Admin says he wants "solo" gameplay, but makes updates that effectively kill any chance of "solo" gameplay.
I'm looking at someone about 60% of my power. This is size and stats. It will take me 11 hits or 33 hrs to deascend this person, thats well over a full day.
Is that me
but anyway would be nice if i could actually deascend players but instead whenever i try it my inbox gets spammed with cocky messages because they know that its practilly impossible for me deascend them dispite the large difference in account strength

Nope

Re: Descending
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:34 am
by Mango
What a crock!
4 attacks, 9 and a bit hours, 396 AT's and hope the person doesnt log in in that time.
thats if you can do the 1/3 damage maximum, if you can breach their defence........
why even bother trying?
I keep getting told that ascention is sooo exciting now.........I would have to disagree

Re: Descending
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:39 am
by Borek
Mango wrote:What a crock!
4 attacks, 9 and a bit hours, 396 AT's and hope the person doesnt log in in that time.
thats if you can do the 1/3 damage maximum, if you can breach their defence........
why even bother trying?
I keep getting told that ascention is sooo exciting now.........I would have to disagree

The only thing remotely exciting about Ascended is the stupidly high numbers and for anyone who's played chaos before even they aren't that great
FUALL tried to descend me last week, honestly i didn't even have to log in, they weren't close to the 1/3rd damage cap, even Priape, Lore, Buck didn't damage me by enough to mean i was down more than 10k Lifeforce reserves 3 hrs later, and that means they would literally have to continually attack me for a full week to descend me. Every 3 hrs for a week straight, lol, of course i invested in personal stats for exactly this reason, but it makes the ascended server largely pointless. Anyone above half my power in personal stats and i can't realistically descend them unless they are not logging in for a full day.
Re: Descending
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:47 pm
by Mango
Having more of a think about it, I think a timeframe to descend is good to have so people can play the game socially but there should be some advantage to having a large attack and def. Currently haveing a large def means as some have said, that it would take weeks of attack to descend them.
Re: Descending
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:58 pm
by Lore
Mango wrote:Having more of a think about it, I think a timeframe to descend is good to have so people can play the game socially but there should be some advantage to having a large attack and def. Currently haveing a large def means as some have said, that it would take weeks of attack to descend them.
you are refering to ascended attacks right?
also remeber it only takes 1 log on and it starts all over. so if it takes 1 week to deascent someone, they only have to log in 1 time a week and they are undeascendable.
Re: Descending
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:17 am
by Mango
Lore wrote:you are refering to ascended attacks right?
also remeber it only takes 1 log on and it starts all over. so if it takes 1 week to deascent someone, they only have to log in 1 time a week and they are undeascendable.
Agreed,
I think a 9-12 hour window to descend is optimum as long as the person has a good enough attack to get enough damage through your personal defenses.
Re: Descending
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:56 pm
by MrBiggMan66
TheRook wrote:Mcshell wrote:ok i got most of it, just that 10x attack confused me..
thx for explaining all other stuff

shell
if the person your doing an ascended assault on has 4 trill defence
you will need to have a 40 trill strike to launch an ascended assault.
a strike 10 times bigger than their defence.
TheRook

Is that the att and def in the Personal Ascension Realm Abilities section, or the Physical Military section in the introspection tab?