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theres a huge difference between Co$ and other religion

U HAVE to pay for courses to get enlightenment, now the other religion i know are more than happy to give u a free bible or qur'an

not only that is cost up to $500+ per HOUR for these auditing classes
and u advance in levels to OT 8, and if you ever attain OT8 you will receive super powers, you be able to control matter, space and time with your mind which is utterly **Filtered**.

im ok if ppl want to believe in a galactic ruler named xenu and his background story but magical powers?, i mean some of the co$ documents for each level has been leaked out to the interwebz which you can get for free anyways.

Ever tried talking to a co$ extremist they make those terrorist look like a tea party, seriously you try and tell them about xenu they will deny it hell man they even deny the existance of google when you tell them to google it up. that is how far they are brained washed.


now does catholic church charge ppl $500 to go to church, better yet i have no idea why these ppl are forking over $500 to the Co$ i mean, these people ending up giving everything they have to them. Sure other religions have had bad things happen like child molestation and the holy crusades...but im waiting for 2000 years for them to iron out there mistakes and i am sure hell isnt going to give Co$ that long of a time frame to fix there crap...its either they get it right the first time or be destroyed.

And one thing i really dislike Co$ is they consider psychiatry a nazi science and should be abolished....that is there goal to abolish psychiatry, they want to eliminate it and replace it with i believe Co$ version of psychiatry which is called dianetics....

....anyways i guesse what goes around comes around...anonymous are crippling them like how Co$ is attacking psychiatry.

what is special about them is will we have cuaght them red handed doing all this crap and in the world today you would get burned, or hanged for saying whats on your mind or label a heathen when you talk back against a religion...that basically it

i advise you guys go watch the tom cruise scientology vid, hey consider us spectators...

Jack wrote:I didn't go on about the CC's crimes, simply because for the most part, they're "conspiracy theories". That's not including the molesting bit, I've done forgot about that.

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Honestly, consipracy theoris?
does the fraze: E pur si muove, or the name Galileo Galilei sound familiar to you for starters? Are you actualy tryn to say that all those ppl were only said to be burned, because they disagreed with enforced belifs of the CC? And thats actualy just a bad tale to make CC look bad and never happened?


@SGC, ok while i get your point "more" now, and i can understand if that "particular" subject is closer to you you feel more... forward or against it <- in this case.
And dont get me wrong, I find no apeal in this Co$, but i dont find it soo much more different than any other BS, others are selling.

as for "free", again not so long ago CC was selling forgiveness for sins, Some CC"offsprings" have membership fees, you have to pay for a mass for example, and ofcourse my fav, the box thats being passed along during ceramonies.. while its not "obligated" they make sure ppl feel bad if they dont stuf **Filtered** in...

I did some more watching (limitied time so done in chunks)
and yeah tomy boy does look messed up, but than again he always looked like a nobrainer to me and if he wants to spend $ to reach some deamworld where he controls matter, up to him.
As long as he doesnt go jehova wittness on me... he can hump on 1 leg claiming the other one is in another reality... than again like i siad.. the matter is distant to me...

Also noticed somewhere.. that it was said it didnt bother the "anonymus" so much of what they do, as how they reacted to "leaked info" (aka going to court for evry little bit and so on) <- which makes sence as it gives appearence that they have something to hide.

sorry to annoy ya with it, i just find religion or belif an interesting topic to discus, specialy if the crowd is right

Jack wrote:Again, I was talking specific about modern day events, as what happens 200 years ago is irrelevant today.

Its not irrelevant. as long as it reflects in today.

Jack wrote:

blahh wrote:

Jack wrote:Again, I was talking specific about modern day events, as what happens 200 years ago is irrelevant today.

Its not irrelevant. as long as it reflects in today.

It doesn't refelect today

Exactly. The modern CC, while not the most socially advanced of groups, isn't responsible for anything like what CoS is. CC doesn't tithe people anymore, and the whole collection plate thing is voluntary (no one is waiting to beat those who don't contribute).

MGZ wrote:

Jack wrote:

blahh wrote:

Jack wrote:Again, I was talking specific about modern day events, as what happens 200 years ago is irrelevant today.

Its not irrelevant. as long as it reflects in today.

It doesn't refelect today

Exactly. The modern CC, while not the most socially advanced of groups, isn't responsible for anything like what CoS is. CC doesn't tithe people anymore, and the whole collection plate thing is voluntary (no one is waiting to beat those who don't contribute).

The modern CC carries the sins of its past wtih it.
IF you want one thing that reflects today on what they did in the past, how goes the 600 years of degradation of sicience they have caused, thus the state in which we are today. Who knows how far along we d be if evrything that didnt fit in their faritale.. (like earth not being flat and so on) wasnt made as devils work

Or on another side to look at it is ask yourself this.... would you say thats in the past and let bygones be bygones.. if for example the nazi SS division still existed today as a "movement".... who cares what they did back than, its in the past? I seriously doubt it.

The main reason why i started to "draw" paralels with CC and Co$ was out of the asumption that mystake/sgc probably also most of the "anonimus" are in one of todays existing religions (cc probably the most widely spread in the usa.. thus them)
and if thats the case, its got nothing to do with "bs they are feeding their folowoers as they themselfs belive in faritales.... its more likely that they cant handle some1 not sharing their vievs, and offering alternative.
whatever the cirkumstances may be.

@ your argument of voluntarity, ofcourse it is.. CC did all that crap in the past and did it so well its anchored in today and doesnt need to.. its part of "morale" now.
But (what a coincidence) todays our "best poets holiday" and he has a nice poem about how christianity was spread throug europe. (a side note in our parts.. the proces of "spreading" christianity.. was more peacefull than in most parts, but some european countries realy had all those bloodbaths as they didnt wanna give up their own religions for some1 elses) if i find a link of translated version i ll link you

I say the crimes of the old CC are able to be forgiven because the modern CC has made apologies (at least for some of them). the CC is not covering up what they did and makes no excuses for those actions. and the modern CC is not trying to force people into joining like the ancient CC did.

whereas in your SS division example, that group would take credit for Nazi crimes and not be apologetic about it. that is the difference. If CoS admitted that some of its members went outside the bounds with murdering some people it might be forgivable, but they try to cover up their crimes and suppress other views (legislation against internet postings, Fair Game, etc...)

tmr is the 10 get ur pickets raeady and black fax papers, gigaloaders...time to take the fight to them tmr... lol