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Borek wrote:Your income doesn't update until you log in, so my guess is those 3 "farm" hits were when you were not online resulting in exactly the same amount stolen 3 turns in a row.

What are you going on about?
Income increase every turn if you don't train your uu and it increases when you don't log in.

This person is saying when Dazman was MASSING the account he got the EXACT same naq in 3 hits in a row when he probably would have got it all in one hit. It is unlikely that he had 36b out and 12b was taken each hit because the 36b would have been taken in one go.

clarkey wrote:

Borek wrote:Your income doesn't update until you log in, so my guess is those 3 "farm" hits were when you were not online resulting in exactly the same amount stolen 3 turns in a row.

What are you going on about?
Income increase every turn if you don't train your uu and it increases when you don't log in.

This person is saying when Dazman was MASSING the account he got the EXACT same naq in 3 hits in a row when he probably would have got it all in one hit. It is unlikely that he had 36b out and 12b was taken each hit because the 36b would have been taken in one go.

Those 3 attacks were 1st on the list, which indicates to me Dazman was farming this guy for 3 turns prior to massing him.

And your income does NOT change until you log in, it's why people who get booted by their commanders still keep their old CO boosted income until they log in.

To me this looks perfectly normal, dazman farmed him for 3 turns prior to massing, guy came back online AFTER being massed and checks his logs, after wiping away the tears he desperately clutches at a straw to accuse dazman of cheating in some way.

Firstly they appear to be the first 3 hits on the list but attack logs are the reverse..... the attacks at the top of the list are the most recent attacks.

Secondly if those three hits were all at the same time i'm sure that 36b would have been taken in one hit not split in 3 hits.

well, being that I'm at war I've been farmed pretty regularly... I think this could shed some light on the issue:

06:07 ~Odin~ 1,245,284,848 Naquadah stolen 15 3 0 6,286,605 145,104,446,446 details
05:38 MajorLeeHurts 1,245,284,848 Naquadah stolen 15 3 0 13,207,089 18,001,362,409 details
05:07 ~Odin~ 1,245,284,848 Naquadah stolen 15 3 0 7,460,958 161,145,132,480 details
04:39 ~Odin~ 1,245,284,848 Naquadah stolen 15 3 0 7,126,165 160,071,624,438 details
04:09 ~Odin~ 1,245,284,848 Naquadah stolen 15 4 0 7,801,375 161,514,030,214 details


Besides the fact that my allies got most of the naq, the important thing to note here is that my NAQ did not increase-even though my UU did. That may be a different bug-but thats what happened to me.

cyberblade wrote:well, being that I'm at war I've been farmed pretty regularly... I think this could shed some light on the issue:

06:07 ~Odin~ 1,245,284,848 Naquadah stolen 15 3 0 6,286,605 145,104,446,446 details
05:38 MajorLeeHurts 1,245,284,848 Naquadah stolen 15 3 0 13,207,089 18,001,362,409 details
05:07 ~Odin~ 1,245,284,848 Naquadah stolen 15 3 0 7,460,958 161,145,132,480 details
04:39 ~Odin~ 1,245,284,848 Naquadah stolen 15 3 0 7,126,165 160,071,624,438 details
04:09 ~Odin~ 1,245,284,848 Naquadah stolen 15 4 0 7,801,375 161,514,030,214 details


Besides the fact that my allies got most of the naq, the important thing to note here is that my NAQ did not increase-even though my UU did. That may be a different bug-but thats what happened to me.

As i already said your income doesn't change until you log in, if you're offline people who farm you (assuming they get it all) will take the same amounts because of that.

Borek wrote:

cyberblade wrote:well, being that I'm at war I've been farmed pretty regularly... I think this could shed some light on the issue:

06:07 ~Odin~ 1,245,284,848 Naquadah stolen 15 3 0 6,286,605 145,104,446,446 details
05:38 MajorLeeHurts 1,245,284,848 Naquadah stolen 15 3 0 13,207,089 18,001,362,409 details
05:07 ~Odin~ 1,245,284,848 Naquadah stolen 15 3 0 7,460,958 161,145,132,480 details
04:39 ~Odin~ 1,245,284,848 Naquadah stolen 15 3 0 7,126,165 160,071,624,438 details
04:09 ~Odin~ 1,245,284,848 Naquadah stolen 15 4 0 7,801,375 161,514,030,214 details


Besides the fact that my allies got most of the naq, the important thing to note here is that my NAQ did not increase-even though my UU did. That may be a different bug-but thats what happened to me.

As i already said your income doesn't change until you log in, if you're offline people who farm you (assuming they get it all) will take the same amounts because of that.

I really don't understand what your saying? I'm just not following you?OK got it.

Is his income 12 bill tho?

I didnt think untrain UU added to income tho.

The attacks that were successful were the last 3, not the first. Maybe Dazman can shed some light on this for us?

From what I believe they were after each turn. i don't think I got all 3 in one turn. I did some turn farming.

As for the massing??? I don't see whats wrong.

dazman wrote:From what I believe they were after each turn. i don't think I got all 3 in one turn. I did some turn farming.

As for the massing??? I don't see whats wrong.

He didnt say anything was wrong with the massing. He thinks you got 3 nits for 12 bill naq in the same turn, and thinks is a possible bug as you should have taken it all in one hit.


Whats your income mate, that would clear up some things.

Ahh ok, I get it now. Let me look in my logs.

Mar 08, 2008 dominovfc 12,846,107,696 Naquadah stolen 15 4,232 0 725,526,331,036 *details

This wasn't at the same time, I have other attack between these 2 hits
Mar 08, 2008 dominovfc 12,846,107,696 Naquadah stolen 15 4,018 0 709,701,854,753 *details

This wasn't at the same time, I have other attack between these 2 hits
Mar 08, 2008 dominovfc 12,846,107,696 Naquadah stolen 15 4,123 0 396,494,737,518 * details

From what I see in my logs, I turn farmed him.

I would also like to shed some light on this issue. From what I can tell, there may be a glitch in domino's account.
HellFire, Daz and I worked together in an MSN convo to mass each of them. HellFire would get the defenses low, I would finish it, then Daz would AC. Unlike the other players we massed though, domino was slightly different. This is a sample of my attack log (the last 4 hits on domino in reverse chronological order, as appears in logs):

Mar 08, 2008 dominovfc 0 Naquadah stolen 15 65,423 0 ***,345,394,354 3 details
Mar 08, 2008 dominovfc 0 Naquadah stolen 15 69,723 6,537 ***,808,501,515 1*,600,806,565 details
Mar 08, 2008 dominovfc 0 Naquadah stolen 15 67,534 0 ***,752,386,685 3 details
Mar 08, 2008 dominovfc 0 Naquadah stolen 15 71,991 12,080 ***,200,326,036 2*,779,947,608 details

Pay close attention to the hit in between the 2 where he had a defense. How did he manage to go from 28 bil defense - to 0 - then back to 16 in the span of maybe 3 seconds that all of those hits took place?

Seems most unusual to me and possibly warrants a bit of concern?

Edit:
Here's a picture:

WOW, this is getting intresting.

Ascended blessing maybe?

I have seen accounts do that while massing. You hit them, they hit 3 defense, and then 'bounce' back for one more hit before going back to 0 permanently. Never really bothered to investigate it sadly, as the defense stayed down after one additional hit. But it isn't just with dominovfc's account. It's probably a bug with weapons. Like at some certain number of hit points left(might just be a range of 1) it reads as 0 or something.

It would help if domino could show logs for the 4 hits though, the one before weapons were destroyed, 1 after, 1 when they reappear, and 1 after they are gone again.

Yes, I would also like to see him post his income.

dazman wrote:From what I see in my logs, I turn farmed him.

That clears it up really.
dominovfc seemed to claim it was within the same turn, but if you have other attacks between them and you claim that you farmed him each turn then that's good enough.

Mar 08, 2008 monkeys 7,759,144,913 Naquadah stolen 15 445 0 422,237,935,813 *details
Mar 08, 2008 dominovfc 12,846,107,696 Naquadah stolen 15 4,123 0 396,494,737,518 *details
Mar 08, 2008 monkeys 31,036,579,652 Naquadah stolen 15 457 0 720,156,238,296 *details
Mar 08, 2008 Tymotey 8,168,617,227 Naquadah stolen 15 3,791 0 382,380,108,142 *details
Mar 08, 2008 dominovfc 12,846,107,696 Naquadah stolen 15 4,232 0 725,526,331,036 *details
Mar 08, 2008 monkeys 23,277,434,739 Naquadah stolen 15 469 0 783,995,874,542 *details

There we go, some attacks in between. If you need real proof I could take a screen shot. But if you don't care, I don't want to waste my time. It took me long enough to find these attacks in my logs.

3,180 attacks total | page 40 of 106

hehe lol.