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Re: Daimon special technologies
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:00 am
by Shornaal
Daimons should receive double raw UP and at a cheaper cost.
They would be favoured as officers and would have alot of fun farming since they can boost their military exp up faster.
They would also grow faster.
I believe that this would be a good perk for them since its their choice not to play ascended and the cost for that is hefty.
If the above is too high then also ban them from purgatory.
Would introduce a nice new play style.
The aim is to want players to carry on playing the game but with all the negatives and the fact more dont want them in their alliance due to tactical reasons they are unfavoured by many. there should be a perk that makes them liked and valued. They are the damned after all.
Re: Daimon special technologies
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:11 am
by Altaïr Ibn La Ahad
Yes just like they sayed in the Game Updates on Oct 25, 2007
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-- basicly, they are living fast and dying fast :).
- They dying fast i see.
- But there living fast? I just dont see that.
Re: Daimon special technologies
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:14 am
by Shornaal
NAQZED wrote:Yes just like they sayed in the Game Updates on Oct 25, 2007
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-- basicly, they are living fast and dying fast :).
- They dying fast i see.
- But there living fast? I just dont see that.
sounds like my proposal would be good then.
it would not be hard to code but im sure admin has a million things to do all the time. So patience is in order.
Maybe if you attend admin meets you can grab him directly for a chat.
Re: Daimon special technologies
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:38 am
by TheRook
God shornaal wrote:Daimons should receive double raw UP and at a cheaper cost.
They would be favoured as officers and would have alot of fun farming since they can boost their military exp up faster.
They would also grow faster.
I believe that this would be a good perk for them since its their choice not to play ascended and the cost for that is hefty.
If the above is too high then also ban them from purgatory.
Would introduce a nice new play style.
The aim is to want players to carry on playing the game but with all the negatives and the fact more dont want them in their alliance due to tactical reasons they are unfavoured by many. there should be a perk that makes them liked and valued. They are the damned after all.
the minute that update happens I can see everyone going daimon...
its a rediculous idea... as much as I'd hate the double losses I can easily sit and not farm for double the UP...
Re: Daimon special technologies
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:45 am
by VeNoM56k
A daimon is supposed to be punished for desending themselves and not being worthy. They should not get new techs. It would basically ruin the whole daimon consept. Everyone who is a daimon chose to be one so stick with what you have, It was your own choice. You knew what was gonna happen if you chose to become one.
Re: Daimon special technologies
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:39 am
by Cycladic
VeNoM56k wrote:A daimon is supposed to be punished for desending themselves and not being worthy. They should not get new techs. It would basically ruin the whole daimon consept. Everyone who is a daimon chose to be one so stick with what you have, It was your own choice. You knew what was gonna happen if you chose to become one.
You're daying a Daimon should simply just be a gimped race, whoever chooses them should just deal with it because that's the way the game is.
Each race has their own advantages/disadvatages, the daimons being they live fast, then die fast. Currently all they're doing is dieing. God shornaal's idea is essentially a good one and gives Daimons the advantage they're missing. What does it matter anyway? Most of everyone's raw up is 1/5th or so of their total anyway.
Re: Daimon special technologies
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:56 am
by Altaïr Ibn La Ahad
VeNoM56k wrote:A daimon is supposed to be punished for desending themselves and not being worthy. They should not get new techs. It would basically ruin the whole daimon consept. Everyone who is a daimon chose to be one so stick with what you have, It was your own choice. You knew what was gonna happen if you chose to become one.
I Know very good the consequences
but there is also an other point people forgot or doesnt want to know it
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There may be a 'bonus and penelty' added to this race in near future, that both hurts you and your enemy to a more or less equal degree. What this is is not yet determined. If you do not want to risk not liking a future update on this race, do not take it yet
Re: Daimon special technologies
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:18 pm
by Shornaal
TheRook wrote:God shornaal wrote:Daimons should receive double raw UP and at a cheaper cost.
They would be favoured as officers and would have alot of fun farming since they can boost their military exp up faster.
They would also grow faster.
I believe that this would be a good perk for them since its their choice not to play ascended and the cost for that is hefty.
If the above is too high then also ban them from purgatory.
Would introduce a nice new play style.
The aim is to want players to carry on playing the game but with all the negatives and the fact more dont want them in their alliance due to tactical reasons they are unfavoured by many. there should be a perk that makes them liked and valued. They are the damned after all.
the minute that update happens I can see everyone going daimon...
its a rediculous idea... as much as I'd hate the double losses I can easily sit and not farm for double the UP...
Perhaps its an ridiculous idea but its an idea. I dont see anyone else comming up with ideas. Do you? no. lol
Ideas are put forward and worked on and not cast aside on first proposal..
You can see where i was going. All it needs is tweaking.
Also note the and or. Even cheaper raw would be adequate but not much of a update.
I can see ALOT of players who select daimon quitting because they are not wanted. Daimons are a broken race that needs adjusting. My intrests is to make these players play the game for a long time.
At the end of the day. They are a race and these are players using them.
They need a perk to put them in line with the other races.
Everyone sez not playing ascended is a pro but is it?
I built my main account up using mainly my ascended account. Now i dont see them not playing ascended as a pro or a con cause it has many of both. I also sold DMU in a past far for naq to help fund buying AT for my allaince. To me i see that has a negative for them. what you see is what you got.
@Cycladic
A very good point. Thank you.
@Daimons
What do you think you should have?
Re: Daimon special technologies
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 4:38 pm
by SG
Boo to the lower UP cost, since mostly everyone is right about it. No one said you had to stay as a daimon.
If you don't like the double death penalty, go back to the 4 basic races, or ascend once again.
Re: Daimon special technologies
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 5:01 pm
by Shornaal
SG wrote:Boo to the lower UP cost, since mostly everyone is right about it. No one said you had to stay as a daimon.
If you don't like the double death penalty, go back to the 4 basic races, or ascend once again.
too late.
They are a race and players are playing as them.
They need to have more purpose though.
Re: Daimon special technologies
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 5:29 pm
by VeNoM56k
God shornaal wrote:SG wrote:Boo to the lower UP cost, since mostly everyone is right about it. No one said you had to stay as a daimon.
If you don't like the double death penalty, go back to the 4 basic races, or ascend once again.
too late.
They are a race and players are playing as them.
They need to have more purpose though.
yes players are playing as them and they chose to play as them. They knew what thy were getting themselves into. They are a fallen divinity and that is there purpose. They have what they have chose to have.
Re: Daimon special technologies
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:32 pm
by Cycladic
The change doesn't have to be flat 100% increase to UP, it's simply an idea. It could be something along the lines of a 20% increase, ie. The bonus for being your own commander.
Re: Daimon special technologies
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 11:54 pm
by TheRook
God shornaal wrote:SG wrote:Boo to the lower UP cost, since mostly everyone is right about it. No one said you had to stay as a daimon.
If you don't like the double death penalty, go back to the 4 basic races, or ascend once again.
too late.
They are a race and players are playing as them.
They need to have more purpose though.
the purpose of the Daimon is that you dont have to play ascended but you get ascended bonuses to all stats...
if you get more for being a daimon rather than being an ascended being and playing the ascended server that would in effect be admin saying hey guys dont play this other server and put the time/effort in just become a daimon and get more...
TheRook
Re: Daimon special technologies
Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 2:57 pm
by Lore
I think the penelties for Daimons are too high. They should have lost their AB, and 1/2 or all the stat bonuses. Kept the ascended weapon set and been done. Double losses was just too much. Especially as army sizes continue to grow. JMO
Re: Daimon special technologies
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:44 am
by Laar
Shornaal wrote:....
Perhaps its an ridiculous idea but its an idea. I dont see anyone else comming up with ideas. Do you? no. lol
.......
I do,
look for example on the first page post 4 (mine), it hasn't been discussed yet