"The ascended snipers"

[Draleg]

You are Omegan and that means you dont fight with someone you figth with all the others and then fight someone........in other words its not much use for a sniper to actually prove to someone they can easily win vs becuase the whole alliance will stand next to them......

thats called " backing up your friends " ... i'm shure your alliance wants you to do the same.

And as for alliance vs 1 sniper , the way its set up now the sniper always wins , real fair gameplay that is .

I'm done with this tread , its only getting me closer to tossing the game all together and going back to playing Quake3 or somthing ware your dedication to the game actualy give you a jump on the other players.

[SVaRuN]

Already suggested a possibility to Jason back then he did said its very likely we ll see it but till now it hasnt been seen



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[Brdavs]

like i sayed , lets wait a while and see wat happends once you all get " big " ...

Influence rank 13, ty very much. And yes I too got hit by these snipers (and others) in case you`re wondering that now.
But one has to take countermesures and if those are not possible... adapt and/or take it on the chin. A dmu hit here and there never killed anyone. Everytime a guy whines a kitten gets killed thoe...

[Draleg]

like i sayed , lets wait a while and see wat happends once you all get " big " ...

i was not pointing in your direction , as for the kittens , woef.

[Lord Silent Bob]

[Mordack]

Ascension is a joke. I find laughing at it's absurdity is preferable to foaming at the mouth Mojo Rising style. Snipers are annoying, but I've come to accept them as another fact of life.

[Giovanni]

Ascension is a joke. I find laughing at it's absurdity is preferable to foaming at the mouth Mojo Rising style. Snipers are annoying, but I've come to accept them as another fact of life.

In that case

Main server is a joke too. Snipers may be annoying but so ARE super alliances
like janus or FUALL.

BUT.. I've come to accept them as another fact of playing this game

[Mordack]

Ascension is a joke. I find laughing at it's absurdity is preferable to foaming at the mouth Mojo Rising style. Snipers are annoying, but I've come to accept them as another fact of life.

In that case

Main server is a joke too. Snipers may be annoying but so ARE super alliances
like janus or FUALL.

BUT.. I've come to accept them as another fact of playing this game

Can you tell that to all the people in main who are foaming at the mouth about super alliances?

[semper]

like i sayed , lets wait a while and see wat happends once you all get " big " ...

I was a fairly sized player on ascended, getting targeted by snipers. I dont care, its fair game, I leave naq out, they take it, I get them back with what I can, its a war game...

I hope you enjoy being a big player and getting your account kicked to bits by someone that normaly wold not even make a dent.

Well, ya know this IS normally now, things change, get used to it and stop winging like a pufter about it.

I SAY NO MORE RANKMODS , i understand them for raiding ands so but a multiplyer for attackpower = joke . Its Jasons call , its his game , but we have to play it , and playing it like its now sucks and gives me no fun. I dont mind getting farmed / massed by a worthey opponent , hey i love the chalenge but getting it from someone that is being given it on a silver platter , screw that , let them do the effort we all did .

Ohhhhhh.....so its one of those..."Well I had to work hard, so everyone else does"... Have u been into the real world...I mean..at all?

This entire situation is no different from lets say a tiny alliance made of noobs taking on Omega. I dont see anyone complaining there that no matter what the noobs did, at the end of the day, their freedom of play WOULD rely on the mercy of Omega.

Wel in main you can sit on someone , in ascention you cant even deascend a player with a brein

oh , wats the use , its all good as long as your the ones getting the benifit

Their are ways to avoid the rank modifier without cheating. You CAN descend ANYONE...all you need to do is make sure they have NO strike and you farm them each and every turn whilst descending them. Yeah with some people it could take millenia and you may need more then one of you doing it, and you are gonna have to be a dam wealthy player yourself in some circumstances, but NO ONE is undescendable. For an Omegan, and member of FUALL, im disappointed to hear that coming from you.

As for benefits, well, lol the benefits are only good if your actually going to attack someone and fight, otherwise, no...there not THAT much of a use... and lets face it, there aint a whole lot of wars going on up there is there now.

Brdavs is right. This is the system, adapt and get on with it. The odd naq hit isnt doing you ANY harm, and you just have to accept as the majority of the game does, there are just some people you DONT mess around with because their account is, at this moment in time, better then yours.

I'm done with this tread , its only getting me closer to tossing the game all together and going back to playing Quake3 or somthing ware your dedication to the game actualy give you a jump on the other players.

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Life is not fair Draleg. It is just fairer than death.

[blahh]

foaming at the mouth Mojo Rising style.

Another keeper from you.... /me starts leaning towards likeing mr Mordack..

[Draleg]

like i sayed , lets wait a while and see wat happends once you all get " big " ...

I was a fairly sized player on ascended, getting targeted by snipers. I dont care, its fair game, I leave naq out, they take it, I get them back with what I can, its a war game...

I completly agree on this so wats the problem ?

I hope you enjoy being a big player and getting your account kicked to bits by someone that normaly wold not even make a dent.

Well, ya know this IS normally now, things change, get used to it and stop winging like a pufter about it.

Whining is now a new word for giving your opinion ...

I SAY NO MORE RANKMODS , i understand them for raiding ands so but a multiplyer for attackpower = joke . Its Jasons call , its his game , but we have to play it , and playing it like its now sucks and gives me no fun. I dont mind getting farmed / massed by a worthey opponent , hey i love the chalenge but getting it from someone that is being given it on a silver platter , screw that , let them do the effort we all did .

Ohhhhhh.....so its one of those..."Well I had to work hard, so everyone else does"... Have u been into the real world...I mean..at all?

Wel , i'm 37 , happely devorced , got a great gf , 2 kids and my own transport company ( subcontracter for DHL ) so i wold think i have had my share of the real world. Yep some ppl get it for free and some get it by working , some get it by working even harder . RL is not a game to me , tho i do try to get a good score now and then !

This entire situation is no different from lets say a tiny alliance made of noobs taking on Omega. I dont see anyone complaining there that no matter what the noobs did, at the end of the day, their freedom of play WOULD rely on the mercy of Omega.

Wel in main you can sit on someone , in ascention you cant even deascend a player with a brein

oh , wats the use , its all good as long as your the ones getting the benifit

Their are ways to avoid the rank modifier without cheating. You CAN descend ANYONE...all you need to do is make sure they have NO strike and you farm them each and every turn whilst descending them. Yeah with some people it could take millenia and you may need more then one of you doing it, and you are gonna have to be a dam wealthy player yourself in some circumstances, but NO ONE is undescendable. For an Omegan, and member of FUALL, im disappointed to hear that coming from you.

Why dont you try and deascend me and i promise you nobody will interfear if i can help it but then again i have a lot of friends so they may think of it differently , if you can do it in 1 week time i wil give you 20 tril main naq and a big handshake.

As for benefits, well, lol the benefits are only good if your actually going to attack someone and fight, otherwise, no...there not THAT much of a use... and lets face it, there aint a whole lot of wars going on up there is there now.

and do you know why ?

Brdavs is right. This is the system, adapt and get on with it. The odd naq hit isnt doing you ANY harm, and you just have to accept as the majority of the game does, there are just some people you DONT mess around with because their account is, at this moment in time, better then yours.

your correct , its the system , and if you know your windows you will know the system is sometimes wrong

I'm done with this tread , its only getting me closer to tossing the game all together and going back to playing Quake3 or somthing ware your dedication to the game actualy give you a jump on the other players.

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Life is not fair Draleg. It is just fairer than death.[/quote]

Maybe life is not fair , the only advantage is there is no rankmod in rl .

[~Artanis~]

1 b planets IS small ...

Plus having a 150-200 m + CER actual size doesn't really matter, does it? Cause under 2 b planets you keep your full CER.

Example:

A ascended sniper has 150 m CER.
He needs 8 days to get 2 k at.
His army size is let's say 800m
In 8 days he gets 1,2 B uu.

His army size is now 2 b.

He can farm the whole server with a CRAZY strike and assassin level and there is nothing the bigger players can do.

EDIT: No raven it's not that that 'person' isn't allowed to do farm everyone. It's just that it's unfair that the 'big' players can't do anything to stop him.

With a higher CER (which for snipers IS possible) this can get pretty ridiculous. Not to mention that these accounts are undescendable.

At this moment there is no point in getting big in ascended. Or is there?

A very easy way to stop them is just build a decent defence.
No sniper is gonna get a strike beyond x number if its not worth it.
The problem in asc is that people want to have a huge income but dont wanna defend it esp when they are in one of the super alliances.
Investing in def would be a good way to go im sure some people dont have any bother with snipers at all because they do keep a defence good enough to bounce off snipers.
They have abit smaller income because of it but they atleast keep their income

ok so lets say the sniper wont be arsed to build a higher strike every day and simply will mass your def down to make it easier again...
What can you do in a situation like this?
ohh yes...build a bigger def so it can be massed down a by another sniper

[semper]

like i sayed , lets wait a while and see wat happends once you all get " big " ...

I was a fairly sized player on ascended, getting targeted by snipers. I dont care, its fair game, I leave naq out, they take it, I get them back with what I can, its a war game...

I completly agree on this so wats the problem ?

I hope you enjoy being a big player and getting your account kicked to bits by someone that normaly wold not even make a dent.

Well, ya know this IS normally now, things change, get used to it and stop winging like a pufter about it.

Whining is now a new word for giving your opinion ...

I SAY NO MORE RANKMODS , i understand them for raiding ands so but a multiplyer for attackpower = joke . Its Jasons call , its his game , but we have to play it , and playing it like its now sucks and gives me no fun. I dont mind getting farmed / massed by a worthey opponent , hey i love the chalenge but getting it from someone that is being given it on a silver platter , screw that , let them do the effort we all did .

Ohhhhhh.....so its one of those..."Well I had to work hard, so everyone else does"... Have u been into the real world...I mean..at all?

Wel , i'm 37 , happely devorced , got a great gf , 2 kids and my own transport company ( subcontracter for DHL ) so i wold think i have had my share of the real world. Yep some ppl get it for free and some get it by working , some get it by working even harder . RL is not a game to me , tho i do try to get a good score now and then !

This entire situation is no different from lets say a tiny alliance made of noobs taking on Omega. I dont see anyone complaining there that no matter what the noobs did, at the end of the day, their freedom of play WOULD rely on the mercy of Omega.

Wel in main you can sit on someone , in ascention you cant even deascend a player with a brein

oh , wats the use , its all good as long as your the ones getting the benifit

Their are ways to avoid the rank modifier without cheating. You CAN descend ANYONE...all you need to do is make sure they have NO strike and you farm them each and every turn whilst descending them. Yeah with some people it could take millenia and you may need more then one of you doing it, and you are gonna have to be a dam wealthy player yourself in some circumstances, but NO ONE is undescendable. For an Omegan, and member of FUALL, im disappointed to hear that coming from you.

Why dont you try and deascend me and i promise you nobody will interfear if i can help it but then again i have a lot of friends so they may think of it differently , if you can do it in 1 week time i wil give you 20 tril main naq and a big handshake.

As for benefits, well, lol the benefits are only good if your actually going to attack someone and fight, otherwise, no...there not THAT much of a use... and lets face it, there aint a whole lot of wars going on up there is there now.

and do you know why ?

Brdavs is right. This is the system, adapt and get on with it. The odd naq hit isnt doing you ANY harm, and you just have to accept as the majority of the game does, there are just some people you DONT mess around with because their account is, at this moment in time, better then yours.

your correct , its the system , and if you know your windows you will know the system is sometimes wrong

I'm done with this tread , its only getting me closer to tossing the game all together and going back to playing Quake3 or somthing ware your dedication to the game actualy give you a jump on the other players.

Life is not fair Draleg. It is just fairer than death.

Maybe life is not fair , the only advantage is there is no rankmod in rl .

outstanding come back..

but I beg to differ.

Lets forget things like private schools, good names, blood lines, personal wealth, intelligence, size and attitude...then we can agree with your comment.

[~Artanis~]

theres realy a simple way of fixing it...
raise the "cap" to 4bil, than in time to 6bil.. and so on..

as ppl grow they start to worry about their income...

atm they can farm in 2 runs per week.. more than they gain if they grow their planets.. and use income.
Simply because if youre at 4bil planets and wanna keep your income and have it safe.. about 2bil will be trained up.. the income you get from the remaining 2 bil is **Filtered** compared to what you can farm

higher caps alow more planets.. meaning good incomes even with biger defs, biger defs mean snipers need biger strike, meaning more losses per run longer time to recover,.. and the influcence of full boosted 200mil up is reduced as it takes longer to recover

and be4 ppl start jumping me... I farm, alowing more planets, aka biger defs hurt me as much as the next guy, so this realy wouldnt benifit me...

But it will solve the sniper issue.

As for how will ppl catch up, raising 2 to 4 isnt realy that big of a deal like rave says.. he has 250mil cer and his account started 2 months ago.. or so the extra 2bil is 8days for him

this could be a temporary solution yes but why couldnt admin make some update like he added planets to main......there are loads o people getting bigger because of their planets and the small guys are left behind....why doesnt this concern jason?
but on the other hand he doesnt mind that the rules aint the same in ascension.....I say make some updates to give extra growth to everyone on ascension(something like planets) that allows the big players to invest in something to help them grow....more reources means they produce more dmu,more planets and meaning they can recover much faster from the sniper attacks

[~Artanis~]

Lol Raven


Seriously ppl... It`s not a mechanic problem as much as it is a state of mind heh... He has a great account and farms a truckload, props to him. How many ppl on main have awsome attack planets and farm for big profit when others can`t, or better said won`t put the effort in. Deal with it. Build a stupid def or log on more often. That second worked out quite fine for me eh Raven heh...

I mean wth, you`re allways about "playing how it`s suppoesd to be played" lol... attack farm etc. etc. Don`t tell me you only support that untill you`re not on the recieving end? I would never have guessed.
Only difference between these snipers and most of main farmers I see is that they`re lone wolfs doing it to either get beck at someone or cos that`s what gives them pleasure. They substitute "normal" gameplay for the one of a vigilante... So statbuilders got their opposite extreme up there lol...

But since we`re calling for changes to everything not going our way all the time... Can I have merlins baned plz? cos this "get 10uber planets for a crazy UP/fraction of the cost massing and keep them merlined 24/7 when not on ppt" is well... kinda... not cool & "unfair"?

well if you compare it to main it isnt pretty much the same.....if u have any planets like attack for example tey can be stolen which means your strike decreaes resulting in higher loses and everyone of us knows that farming isnt like it was in the past due to few AT and also it is almost unprofitable to farm unless you are from fuall and have a 2 trill strik so you dont have to worry about geting massed etc...

Look at it this way....there arent very big army differences in ascension....you have like 6 bill planets but you can loses 1 bill or even more with a single thought and hen have to wait a month until you fully recover
but in main there is loads of people with 40-50 mill army but also loads with 200 mill army and growing in main isnt as easy as on ascended....

Why can such big army differences be on main and not on ascended aswell?I think that something similar to planets would fix this because this simply isnt very prosperous......
Why do the big guys get punished because of the little ones

If are not allowed to grow to our full poential the neither should people on main
I then ask everyone who is over the cap to receve just 10% of their total up...maybe then they would realize how big players on ascended feel