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Re: ban educating sig :D
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 4:17 am
by FreeSpirit
weilandsmith wrote:FreeSpirit wrote:Learn the vital lessons of life people its balance. Without one the other has no purpose in life so can not exist.
Look at the facts in sgw: GA/CoP bullies where eventually balanced by CiA
TLE bullies - balanced by zion
FUALL - TJP both are seen as bullies but yet also as friends therefor balanced
Its shown in the circle of life that every living being has its purpose. If one falls away the cirlce is distrubed therefor the balance is gone.
Some people need to pay better attention at school

this is BS. teaching is supposed to help and advance you. how do you advance someone by massing them? you're setting them back. you're forcing them to play the way you want them to play. and you're a moderator.
And if you had checked further then the length of your nose you would have noticed that i am no longer an educator and that my last education was more then a month ago

Let me also remind you of the fact that our modding in these forums has nothing to do with that we represent ingame.
Re: ban educating sig :D
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 4:38 am
by Skunky
Education to the nation!!! Your methods are totally crap, its just a lame excuse to mass people! Sad really
But freespirit i kind of agree to with you.

Re: ban educating sig :D
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 4:43 am
by weilandsmith
FreeSpirit wrote:weilandsmith wrote:FreeSpirit wrote:Learn the vital lessons of life people its balance. Without one the other has no purpose in life so can not exist.
Look at the facts in sgw: GA/CoP bullies where eventually balanced by CiA
TLE bullies - balanced by zion
FUALL - TJP both are seen as bullies but yet also as friends therefor balanced
Its shown in the circle of life that every living being has its purpose. If one falls away the cirlce is distrubed therefor the balance is gone.
Some people need to pay better attention at school

this is BS. teaching is supposed to help and advance you. how do you advance someone by massing them? you're setting them back. you're forcing them to play the way you want them to play. and you're a moderator.
And if you had checked further then the length of your nose you would have noticed that i am no longer an educator and that my last education was more then a month ago

Let me also remind you of the fact that our modding in these forums has nothing to do with that we represent ingame.
i know that you quit the educators. i saw the post. my nose is long enough, thank you. still, you were part of them. and if you think that your being a mod has nothing to do in game, then you are wrong. the popular perception is that there is a relation. WOLF359 is respected in game as well as forums because he's a mod. YOU are respected in game as well as forums because you are a mod. your being a mod has everything to do with SGW. Is it unfair? definitely. but that's the perception.
Re: ban educating sig :D
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 5:01 am
by ~DeMoN~
Giovanni wrote:Can i have one of FUALL ?

lmao haha
Re: ban educating sig :D
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 5:05 am
by Skunky
Duelist wrote:Giovanni wrote:Can i have one of FUALL ?


as requested.
That is rather, Lols worthy, i might have to have it becoz of the lols
ps, make it animated

Re: ban educating sig :D
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 5:20 am
by zeekomkommer
Duelist wrote:Giovanni wrote:Can i have one of FUALL ?


as requested.
get your own topic, this is about educaters

Re: ban educating sig :D
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 5:21 am
by ~DeMoN~
Ehhh
Re: ban educating sig :D
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 5:22 am
by HellFire
Not that this is really any of my business, but something weilandsmith said raised a red flag. You think that Wolf is respected because he's a mod? I think, that more then anything, it's the other way around. He's a mod -because- he's respected.
~HellFire
Re: ban educating sig :D
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 5:25 am
by ~DeMoN~
zeekomkommer wrote:Duelist wrote:Giovanni wrote:Can i have one of FUALL ?


as requested.
get your own topic, this is about educaters

If you insist, weird triangle man

Re: ban educating sig :D
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 5:26 am
by Severian
Wolf359 is respected because he is one of the best posters around and a bit of a role model for us all, not because he is a mod. His position evokes (and indeed requires) some sense of objectivity although such things are impossible and it’s the conscious attempt that matters. You'll find throughout SGW history, numerous mods or admins who were or are in positions of significant influence in game with the ability to affect the server to some degree. You’ll find them diplomats, you’ll find them warriors, you’ll find them ordinary Joes or you’ll find them utterly inactive.
They like the players have a range of styles.
In fact, there used to be a complete distinction between in game and forums in that they were not related and had nothing to do with one another. If there was an absolute connection as you say, does that then give players the right to mass any mod who they feel wronged them? Should I automatically respect every single moderator absolutely for their position alone and not their actions or views?
I’m not sure about you, but I will judge a moderator based upon their actions in ensuring the forums run smoothly as I will judge their poster persona likewise by their views and in game account by their actions.
Edit: Kittie beat me to it.
<3 teh Kittie!
Re: ban educating sig :D
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 5:34 am
by weilandsmith
why are we arguing about wolf359? this topic is aimed at the educators.
fine then. i respect wolf359 because he was fair minded to me in his job as a mod. i never knew wolf359 before he became a mod. i'm a newbie. you are using your perceptions. i am using mine. i respect wolf because he was a fair mod to me. we even work on several topics together here in forums. thats it. that's my perception. i did not know who wolf was before. please don't argue about perceptions because we won't get anywhere with them. you're perception as a veteran player is different from a newbie player like me.
Re: ban educating sig :D
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 5:44 am
by Giovanni
Duelist wrote:Fixing it now, the animation is not looping currently.

Yeah man

Re: ban educating sig :D
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 6:01 am
by Severian
weilandsmith wrote:why are we arguing about wolf359? this topic is aimed at the educators.
fine then. i respect wolf359 because he was fair minded to me in his job as a mod. i never knew wolf359 before he became a mod. i'm a newbie. you are using your perceptions. i am using mine. i respect wolf because he was a fair mod to me. we even work on several topics together here in forums. thats it. that's my perception. i did not know who wolf was before. please don't argue about perceptions because we won't get anywhere with them. you're perception as a veteran player is different from a newbie player like me.
Your whole argument hinged on the fact that it was "the" perception. That is what your post said here, it is what the post in the GC said. That the educators were Irresponsible and that this was magnified by the fact that even certain mods were in on it at various stages.
Now that it has been debunked, the tune changes from "the" perception to "newbie" and "Veteran" perception(s). This plays right into and demonstrates my argument.
That people these days are being brought up to expect only one play style, to expect a soft game where there are moral protections and bindings and where an aggressive play style in a war-game is taboo. To make war for profit or pleasure is argued and campaigned publically to no longer be acceptable. So whenever people follow this
Equally valid play style, it is condemned and they are in fact abused.
They talk about these aggressive players imposing that direct play style upon them while neglecting the very fact that the opposite is far more numerous and just as true. That the passive play styles have been imposing and shaming aggressive players so in a way using public pressure to bully players into adopting a more quiet role. In other words, being forced to drop their own style of play and to take on another’s.
Yet here we are, in another thread aimed at agressive players in a way to rally up public support and hope that the social pressure will bind them to the will of passive players so that they may enjoy their game unmolested while not taking into consideration the opposite argument...
Re: ban educating sig :D
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 6:04 am
by weilandsmith
massing is fine. raiding, attacking, stealing planets. fine. but when you say that you did this because you are educating people? i am attacking you because i am educating you? that's insulting.
Re: ban educating sig :D
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 6:11 am
by bebita
very well said