So... does anyone care anymore?

[Mordack]

Not especially, no.

My biggest regret is the amount of resources I wasted on ascensions, and on buying large amounts of DMU to beef up my account; back when I thought having a good ascended account actually mattered.

Even the big war, when it finally happened, did little if anything to restore my interest in playing the ascended server. All I've done so far is assasinate a few people, and untrain all of my income planets so I don't become a farm. Boring stuff. I think I'll spend the rest of the war logging in once every two or three days to prevent myself from being descended.

[Mojo Rising]

Nope I don't care. I cannot be descended and that is really the only thing that matters. I, too, like Mordack wish that I could get all the resources I wasted doing good ascensions just to have everyone be able to catch up because they were stupid and decided NOT to play ascension from the beginning and then screamed FOUL when it could actually affect their main account.

[Legendary Apophis]

I like ascended and login like 6-7 times a day. Not farming I know, but I prefer it to main. I only put it on vacation when I'm really busy. I prefer ascended. Perhaps because I didn't yet reach the below 50% of your UP in growth (I mean, being able to grow by 50% of yor normal CER)

[Funky White Boy]

You are currently growing at 16.88 percent of full capacity...
This is what sucks.
There is no point in CER anymore I stopped investing a long time ago
You log on invest in levels. Most of the larger players are pretty much untouchable as far as descension goes.
These are two aspects which have killed the server.

To make the server playable reset the server, refund the DMU equivalent spend on levels upgrades, MS etc and Factor in some sort of planet exchange to give some benefit to those who have played. Look at the exponential formulas and work out what went wrong. Start the server again fixing those problems, give those who have played a head start then allow further large ascensions to have an impact after a specified period.
This gives and advantage to active players
It allows some form of catchup for others

I have a lot to loose if this happens as my main account sucks and is hibernating.

P.S Never bother with vacation just untrain all your income planets. That way you gain LF and planets.

[cyberblade]

You are currently growing at 16.88 percent of full capacity...
This is what sucks.
There is no point in CER anymore I stopped investing a long time ago
You log on invest in levels. Most of the larger players are pretty much untouchable as far as descension goes.
These are two aspects which have killed the server.

To make the server playable reset the server, refund the DMU equivalent spend on levels upgrades, MS etc and Factor in some sort of planet exchange to give some benefit to those who have played. Look at the exponential formulas and work out what went wrong. Start the server again fixing those problems, give those who have played a head start then allow further large ascensions to have an impact after a specified period.
This gives and advantage to active players
It allows some form of catchup for others

I have a lot to loose if this happens as my main account sucks and is hibernating.

P.S Never bother with vacation just untrain all your income planets. That way you gain LF and planets.

you obviously need to fight some more... That may also require dropping your tag (if you have one).

It's quite simple for me. When I see myself growing to slowly, I train up a large strike and farm some. This always gets me massed as I don't have a big tag. Then I'm growing at a better rate.

Though what you say does have some merit-but before theres any talk of resetting we need to have clear ideas of what changes there would be.

[Raven]

They want to be statbuilders they actually want to grow at a couple % of their actual CER......Some big players on both sides went to vacation mode in asc to prevent planet losing lmao proves my point....

[Funky White Boy]

The CER just proves the server is screwed. Nothing more.
My stats are equal to my influence, I am not over inflating them.
If I have good cause then I would go to war. I will not hide on vacation mode just to protect my planets
I will gladly enter into 1 vs 1 war arrangement with anyone on the server.
In fact I offered this recently to someone who declined my offer (interestingly some one on your side of the current war) and then another alliance member intoned that if this happened that he would join in instantly making it a 1 vs 2. I know from past experience this then ends up with 1 vs 25 very quickly if the member starts to look as if they are loosing.
In the war between FAHQ and the Gladiators I descended one of their number in a coordinated strike at no point did I back away when the legion threatened to join or scamper off on vacation if that is what you wish to imply.

In this server war I have chosen to remain out of it mainly because in the past I have reasons to join on both sides.
I have ex commanders on both sides of this war.

You could choose to remove my stats tomorrow as can many on both sides. We would have to remove our mutual Peace declarations and it would have to be on the basis that the rest of your alliance mates would not join in. The reason so many independents have relatively high stats is to prevent farming from the big 2 groups and the 1 vs 25 that ensues if we choose to retaliate.

I would seem that many on both sides at present think that the non combatants are somehow big **Filtered**. Viewed from my perspective it is easy to talk big with the backup of a large alliance behind you in a 1 vs 25 arrangement that will occur as a result. Why do I not join an alliance. To be honest I have not got the time for the internal politics anymore as I have a job.

[cyberblade]

The CER just proves the server is screwed. Nothing more.

Can you give a better explanation than that? How does CER prove the server is screwed? is that your CER-my CER-the average CER? And what is a "screwed" server-one thats about to go up in smoke? One that no one will play?

I'm not trying to poke fun at you-but we do need to clarify those terms as I don't know what you were thinking when you said them.

My stats are equal to my influence, I am not over inflating them.

My influence is my highest stat...

If I have good cause then I would go to war. I will not hide on vacation mode just to protect my planets
I will gladly enter into 1 vs 1 war arrangement with anyone on the server.
In fact I offered this recently to someone who declined my offer (interestingly some one on your side of the current war) and then another alliance member intoned that if this happened that he would join in instantly making it a 1 vs 2. I know from past experience this then ends up with 1 vs 25 very quickly if the member starts to look as if they are loosing.
In the war between FAHQ and the Gladiators I descended one of their number in a coordinated strike at no point did I back away when the legion threatened to join or scamper off on vacation if that is what you wish to imply.

I didn't mean to imply anything.

In this server war I have chosen to remain out of it mainly because in the past I have reasons to join on both sides.
I have ex commanders on both sides of this war.

I have no issues with a person not wishing to fight friends.

You could choose to remove my stats tomorrow as can many on both sides. We would have to remove our mutual Peace declarations and it would have to be on the basis that the rest of your alliance mates would not join in. The reason so many independents have relatively high stats is to prevent farming from the big 2 groups and the 1 vs 25 that ensues if we choose to retaliate.

I would seem that many on both sides at present think that the non combatants are somehow big **Filtered**. Viewed from my perspective it is easy to talk big with the backup of a large alliance behind you in a 1 vs 25 arrangement that will occur as a result. Why do I not join an alliance. To be honest I have not got the time for the internal politics anymore as I have a job.

I agree with a bunch of this stuff (the alliance vs 1, etc.).

But none of it touches on why you say the server is screwed. If we're going to work at fixing it we need to know precisely what is wrong.

[Raven]

Im not sure if you were talking to me funky but i have been alone for over 7months already and because of no support from a big alliance i now am called a sniper.......people dont realize its just impossible for me to keep up stats even if i do have alot of planets to lose if they would be the first to check.

I agree to a certain point however that asc needs some fixing but it shouldnt go right back n the arms of big alliances who do nothing more then to hide behind eachocher.Ive made my account to what it is today with high costs the biggest one would be that i probably can never have much at all.......but i can live with that its just the bigger alliances who feel i should have my whole account up for destroy anytime thy whistle....

[Funky White Boy]

The fact we cannot fight 1 vs 1 is the biggest problem in my view. This was supposed to be the object of the server.
I am sorry I thought you were still in the Legion - Raven:)
My view on CER is that it causes all accounts to be too similar in lots of respects. Is it reasonable for someone who has put very little effort into ascending from main to have an account that is very similar to one who has put a lot of effort in over a couple of years.
It means there is no advantage to do what Mojo Rising did at the start and what I did later which was to put a lot of effort into massive 80-100k UP ascensions ( that was big honest:))
This server in my opinion needs a 1 vs 1 facility where you are only allowed to leave when you have destroyed the others account to a specified level ( if not both accounts are destroyed to that level automatically so as not to use this as a hiding tactic between friends) and should last a least a week. There needs to be a way to break the domination of alliances. This was not supposed to be a server with the alliances still present.
When myself and my original alliance mates ascended we actually kept our identity secret for fear of someone descending us in the future ( which turned out to be a long time off).
Now no one can descend anyone who has have a brain cell.

[| Nemesis |]

How can you say Ascension is screwed because of CeR? Thats just stupid, i take that as you throwing a tantrum because your not at 100% of your CeR, when you add some planets to your strike your stat increases a few tril maybe even a quad if you add enough, you buy a few levels of Cha and your CeR only goes up a few hundred planets, well unlucky and since your growing at 16% of your CeR that tells me you`ve got a pretty big account so quit your whining

The only way i can think of to break the domination of alliances is to bring in more and more AT so you can fight multiple players, this to me would be a disaster.

Why are you moaning that you cant fight a 1v1? you cant really fight a 1v1 a 1v1 on main, you sure theres big stats to mass in the first day and the next day theres planets to be taken and a strike to be sabbed, now you move onto farming them so what happens on day 3? i tell you what happens you get bored neither of you have anything to destroy, buying and selling fleets gets annoying and now all your doing is swapping naq hit for naq hit

If descensions were fixed the ascended server would already be way more interesting as far as wars go.

[Funky White Boy]

The whole server was set up for a 1vs1 that was the original idea. There was also descension. This was the POINT of the server, that is why there were no alliances up here. If you want a team game then main is for you. If you want an individual challenge then this is for you
Yes I have a large ascended account that is because I put a lot of effort into the account with large ascensions.
Most players feel this server is screwed I am not the only one. Mostly it is the players who have been here a long time.
Today was a good day I was woken up from a deep slumber and got to wipe out a sniper account, although I admit I think someone else also had a go.
It was fun. To be honest the destruction of these accounts is a distraction in an otherwise sterile server. I actually applaud these players they use good tactics and keep the rest of the server on their toes.