Vultures?

[pianomutt20000]

Here is Pianomutt's Theory of farming.


If you are big enough to farm me, and not be uttered destroyed by myself or my alliance in times of peace...you can do so.


BUT...Heaven forbid you be a weaker player taking advantage....Then..you go on the list.


This list involves people whom were what I consider...very stupid.

I don't know how long i'll sit on ya, most likely until I am bored...But by then, I assure you that any profit you made off my account is long since in the negative.



Farming powerful players without def is extremely risky..As they tend to have very long memories.



Bill

Brilliantly summed up. That is what really tics people off and they have the guns to make it unfortunate for the vulture. Judge wrong, and you can be in a very big world of hurt.

I will not knowingly cross into a battelfield that is not my own unless by accident. I like to give the warring parties a fair chance to prove themselves against each other. Besides, you DON'T make friends as a vulture and I find friends can make a huge difference for you.

Now, attacks on parties NOT in your war by smaller accounts simply because they know they can cry vulture if you return fire? That is a very different story and tends to irritate me. A lot.

Friends and comrades are the true measures of strength in this game. Nobody can truely stand alone...Juan was an example of someone who tried...and failed.

[TH0R]

People in war should be happy if someone else farms them. This means that their opponent gets less resources. So you cut enemy's supply by letting outsiders to farm you. It's like massing someones officers who are not a part of war.

[Guardianx]

there are no vultures, when you get attacked by someone in war and you hit him back or his friends.

[Wolf359]

I agree that if people at war want to be left alone they should be left alone to war, but then they shouldn't hit other people for resources. It reminds me of people who say "Do as I say, not as I do." If you choose to hit folks not involved in your war, don't complain about others hitting you.

I very much agree with Zepeln on this.

Indeed!

A few weeks back I retaliated against a guy who was hitting NEO members. Quite quickly I got a message calling me a 'vulture' and telling me that I should stop because he was in a war. My response was to say that I would, as long as he stopped attacking people not in the war. His rather idiotic response was to say that he was allowed to attack because he was in a war, but I wasn't allowed to attack him because of the same reason. At which point I labelled him an idiot and attacked him again.

Sometimes people only get a chance to retaliate when their enemy/oppressor is in conflict with somebody else. If the people who are the victim of alleged 'vulturing' are really that bothered about it, then instead of whining and issuing threats, they should simply note their attackers name and deal with them at a later date. But, as someone else said - if you get hit by someone other than your enemy, surely that is better than getting hit by your enemy?

[Mystake]

I've never pm'd someone calling them a vulture unless they have explicitly made it obvious that they are taking advantage of the situation. Obvious, to my eyes atleast.


This whole vulture thing pisses me off. Build a damn defense if you don't want to have your naq taken away. You are responsible for protecting your income, not the war. War is not a stat!

[Juliette]

I agree that if people at war want to be left alone they should be left alone to war, but then they shouldn't hit other people for resources. It reminds me of people who say "Do as I say, not as I do." If you choose to hit folks not involved in your war, don't complain about others hitting you.

I very much agree with Zepeln on this.

Indeed!

A few weeks back I retaliated against a guy who was hitting NEO members. Quite quickly I got a message calling me a 'vulture' and telling me that I should stop because he was in a war. My response was to say that I would, as long as he stopped attacking people not in the war. His rather idiotic response was to say that he was allowed to attack because he was in a war, but I wasn't allowed to attack him because of the same reason. At which point I labelled him an idiot and attacked him again.

Sometimes people only get a chance to retaliate when their enemy/oppressor is in conflict with somebody else. If the people who are the victim of alleged 'vulturing' are really that bothered about it, then instead of whining and issuing threats, they should simply note their attackers name and deal with them at a later date. But, as someone else said - if you get hit by someone other than your enemy, surely that is better than getting hit by your enemy?

As they say, wisdom sure comes to those who look for it.. Well said, Wolf.
And @ your example of the reasoning the dude-in-war portrayed.

[the grim reefer]

valkyria and most of tpe were farmed heavily "pre server war" and i am assuming this was to fund the war.
now granted attacks on us have fallen downhill and im thankfull of that but we still get a few hits from either side on a daily basis but we are adamant that we wont hit back as this is not our war and we dont vulture but(and its a big but)..why do both sides continue to farm alliances/empires outside the war when those said alliances/empires are respecting the unwritten "vulturing rule"..definatly seems like double standards but i think there aint jack anyone can do about it other than keep there own sense of honour and hope the big boys keep theres.

[barbs]

valkyria and most of tpe were farmed heavily "pre server war" and i am assuming this was to fund the war.
now granted attacks on us have fallen downhill and im thankfull of that but we still get a few hits from either side on a daily basis but we are adamant that we wont hit back as this is not our war and we dont vulture but(and its a big but)..why do both sides continue to farm alliances/empires outside the war when those said alliances/empires are respecting the unwritten "vulturing rule"..definatly seems like double standards but i think there aint jack anyone can do about it other than keep there own sense of honour and hope the big boys keep theres.

TPE = what does that stand for ? The Pegasus Empire ?

Hmm Mr Reefer, I think your empire should join our war with or against its all fun

[the grim reefer]

dam lol me and my big mouth.speeking on this forum is as dangerouse as hitting a pi/omega member on a bad day lol.
anyway barbs my old mate im sure good fun is being had by all(aspecially you) but the truth is this just isnt our war and valkyria members dont follow the rest of flock just for "brownie points".
gl mate and have fun.

[Almost38]

[quote=]I agree that if people at war want to be left alone they should be left alone to war, but then they shouldn't hit other people for resources. It reminds me of people who say "Do as I say, not as I do." If you choose to hit folks not involved in your war, don't complain about others hitting you.[/quote]
we will do w/e we want and mass whoever we want vultruing is just the excues that is used

[cyberblade]

As far as I have been able to tell vulturing is as follows:

If you hit a bigger player/more powerful alliance you are a vulture, and that will be used as the reason for massing you and your friends/alliance.

If you hit a smaller player there is no vulturing, as better you get the naq than their enemies.

In that sense it's no different from the rest of this game-what is right and what is wrong is decided and enforced by whomever has the biggest stick, and double standards are fine if you have the clout to enforce them.

As was said:

Double standards are a luxury of the powerful, I'm afraid.

[TH0R]

As far as I have been able to tell vulturing is as follows:

If you hit a bigger player/more powerful alliance you are a vulture, and that will be used as the reason for massing you and your friends/alliance.

If you hit a smaller player there is no vulturing, as better you get the naq than their enemies.

In that sense it's no different from the rest of this game-what is right and what is wrong is decided and enforced by whomever has the biggest stick, and double standards are fine if you have the clout to enforce them.

As was said:

Double standards are a luxury of the powerful, I'm afraid.

I agree, it's ok if someone in war farms you during war, but if you farm them you are a vulture. But term vulture is used to frequently. One is Vulture is he takes advantage of war status, and attacks whole alliance(or lots of players) because they have little to no def. But if you attack someone(4-5 players in whole empires) you are not a vulture. War players should be happy that someone else takes their naq.

[Pai Mei]

Those who eat on the carcasses of the dead, will most likely be eaten by the maggots of the dead whom rise up and strike dead these parasites or war.


For when the conflict dies down and they hug in renewed friendship, they will then turn their attention to the parasites whom took advantage.


A wise man would not be found to be a parasite at such time, as the damage incurred would greatly outweigh any gain from such dishonorable behavior.




Wisdom has spoken,

Pai Mei

[Wolf359]

poppycock.

If someone attacks someone on one day, and the next day they enter into a war with someone else, it is not 'vulturing' or 'dishonourable' for the person first attacked to retaliate whilst the person whom attacked them is in a war.

The 'vulture' term is pathetic - and people use it without thinking.

[repli**cator]

pretty hard to handle since i count right now 10+ logs off war players hitting my neutral alliance...but as usual the strong lay down the laws and we have nothing on them...


*goes whining in a small corner* xD



PS: cheese for me, anyone?