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Re: Updates

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:28 pm
by kensiky
But you would lose so mush happiness if you attack with 10k supers. Thats 15 million per attack.

Re: Updates

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:35 pm
by Kikaz
I kept top 10 with 12k supers trained before this damn update...

Re: Updates

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:41 pm
by kensiky
I like the random updates to Q this wave. Its like a bunch of wave all stuck together. I think we should get one every week until the end of the wave.

Re: Updates

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:47 pm
by HippyFool
i dont think the amount of happiness you would lose with 10k supers would be very significant... especially not to cripple someone so completely..

and anyway, what if you mass someones defense, then get a friend who doesnt really play to put 10k+ units into supers and then take out their pollys...they arent going to care about their happiness at all. That is what HE did when he massed me...geisha so kindly joined in once i had 0 def and took out all my pollys 8)

can someone give me the calculation of how much happiness you would lose doing one 15 attack with 10k supers? my bet is that it wont be much..and i think you only have to use 1 attack instead of 15 to kill all their pollys how it is atm...

Re: Updates

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:53 pm
by Kikaz
At the cost of -18,103,500 to their own people's happiness, and 15 attack turns:
The army of Kikaz stormed the realm of bikercouple!



Kikaz sent:
1 Covert Infiltrator Bot and 12,069 Human Form Attacker and 0 Attack Spider

Re: Updates

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:03 pm
by HippyFool
omg! oh noes! I lost a whole 18,103,500 happiness!! And all i killed was ALL his pollys!!! whatever will i do??

wait, i know! - i will just go and get 882,482,400,000 happiness from the market...lol!

Re: Updates

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:17 pm
by kensiky
Do that do 50k players and you will be sorry.

Re: Updates

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:41 am
by danuboy
The happiness bonus is too large so it must be removed ... If things will stay like this we will have to buy happiness every day in order to maintain a good rank thus we can`t use the other trades like buying turns which we all want ...

Re: Updates

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:22 am
by Forum
i will remove market happiness STARTING JUNE 22
for 3 days it will stay as is....

now maybe this was introduced at the wrong time. but the argument "i dont need politicians any more as i will just use market" -- is exactly what i would expect.

so people sell their politicians.

so the 'top happiness production' goes down...

so what the market gives you in happiness goes down...

so people need to buy politicians....

so the market rate goes up...

you see how it goes.


but - in 2 days (start jun 22) i will nix it... you will have one less market option.

now for those that bought it already -- well - in the 3 or 4 days it is there, the difference between those that take it 3 vs. 4 times, will not be significant over the long haul... (my other opton is to remove it right now, but the same issue of 'mid day' would hold and the difference in 1 to 2 days is bigger than 3 vs 4...)

i still hold its a viable option, but maybe introduced from the start...



now -- is that the only issue (the market happiness) people have with the udpates? the extra units are ok? the increased market maximums? etc...
nobody has spoken of those...

and ps - there is a max% of politcians killed....

Re: Updates

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:24 am
by knight
Forum wrote:i will remove market happiness STARTING JUNE 22
for 3 days it will stay as is....

now maybe this was introduced at the wrong time. but the argument "i dont need politicians any more as i will just use market" -- is exactly what i would expect.

so people sell their politicians.

so the 'top happiness production' goes down...

so what the market gives you in happiness goes down...

so people need to buy politicians....

so the market rate goes up...

you see how it goes.


but - in 2 days (start jun 22) i will nix it... you will have one less market option.

now for those that bought it already -- well - in the 3 or 4 days it is there, the difference between those that take it 3 vs. 4 times, will not be significant over the long haul... (my other opton is to remove it right now, but the same issue of 'mid day' would hold and the difference in 1 to 2 days is bigger than 3 vs 4...)

i still hold its a viable option, but maybe introduced from the start...


If you are not going to do something about it; I want a full refund on the money I spent on SS.

I will never play Quantum ever again.

knight

Re: Updates

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:30 am
by Forum
umm ... is removing it not doing something?
what would you suggest?
all updates dont work perfectly. it was fixing an existing issue...
it would have worked in long run, but due to the imbalancing in the short run, i agree to remove it...

what would you have me do? that is fair to all?


knight37 wrote:
Forum wrote:i will remove market happiness STARTING JUNE 22
for 3 days it will stay as is....


If you are not going to do something about it; I want a full refund on the money I spent on SS.

I will never play Quantum ever again.

knight

Re: Updates

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:34 am
by knight
Forum wrote:umm ... is removing it not doing something?
what would you suggest?
all updates dont work perfectly. it was fixing an existing issue...
it would have worked in long run, but due to the imbalancing in the short run, i agree to remove it...

what would you have me do? that is fair to all?


knight37 wrote:
Forum wrote:i will remove market happiness STARTING JUNE 22
for 3 days it will stay as is....


If you are not going to do something about it; I want a full refund on the money I spent on SS.

I will never play Quantum ever again.

knight
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Reset the game to before the updates........... Get rid of that option. Who said we need 4 options. All updates should be set to start at 00:00 game time. Not the middle of the day.

I (along with others) can never catch up in happiness EVER.

I would rather deal with multis.

Re: Updates

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:49 am
by lilith
knight37 wrote:If you are not going to do something about it; I want a full refund on the money I spent on SS.

I will never play Quantum ever again.

Ah, the bitterness of not being able to 'buy' the game :)
In the name of all that's holy, please stop talking about resets because some numbers on your screen changed... It was last wave, it's this wave, when is it ever going to stop?
Forum wrote:now -- is that the only issue (the market happiness) people have with the udpates? the extra units are ok? the increased market maximums? etc...
nobody has spoken of those...

The rest of the updates are very nice. There's never such a thing as the perfect wave, you just have to learn to enjoy the 'surf' ;)

Re: Updates

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:10 am
by knight
lilith wrote:
knight37 wrote:If you are not going to do something about it; I want a full refund on the money I spent on SS.

I will never play Quantum ever again.

Ah, the bitterness of not being able to 'buy' the game :)
In the name of all that's holy, please stop talking about resets because some numbers on your screen changed... It was last wave, it's this wave, when is it ever going to stop?
Forum wrote:now -- is that the only issue (the market happiness) people have with the udpates? the extra units are ok? the increased market maximums? etc...
nobody has spoken of those...

The rest of the updates are very nice. There's never such a thing as the perfect wave, you just have to learn to enjoy the 'surf' ;)



I guess you have never heard of "hit them where it hurts (their pocketbook)" ...................... ](*,)

Re: Updates

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:15 am
by butt_h3ad
i don't know if it's too easy to catch up 882 bil of happiness, some have this advantage because of the release of the update. you can do a rollback.. or if not, just give back the miners taken and take the happiness (that huge amount)
i believe that nothing can buy happiness and so should it be.