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Re: ~~~~JACKS POST~~~~~~

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:42 pm
by Mystake
Teal'auc of the Tok'ra wrote:
Jack wrote:No... It's already been established that you're allowed to call people idiots.

Ohhh, so nice. So when we will get to have 'established' that we are allowed to call each other 'morons' '**Filtered**' '**Filtered**', 'retards', '**Filtered**', (etc)...? Soon enough, if you plea your cause to Smooshable for long time enough?



Teal'auc



Uh jenny, anyone who goes on ppt, and PPT itself stands for what? poor **Filtered** times? and now its a bad word when its used against Jack?

Re: ~~~~JACKS POST~~~~~~

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:42 pm
by Severian
Jack you are an arrogant self centred mod blinded by tunnel vision and have no place being a mod in this community, let alone a supermod. If people actually went through yours posts, they'd see you in constant direct conflict with many many users and even as an ombudsman you acted like the most important thing in the world, attacking anyone who raised an issue with you in a very aggressive manner and letting an absurd amount of pride and self importance ruin and effectively degrade and demean any postion that you held.

You lack tact, lack any experience whatsoever, made constant silly mistakes, still spam in all the wrong areas, have that many *filters* trigger in your posts as a mod and yet are given an enourmous amount of leeway for the simple and single fact that Smoosh considers you his best mate in SGW.

Teal'auc was removed for being "stubborn" and yet anyone can clearly see that you are far more guilty of being over opinionated and unable to recognise, acknowledge or respect other people's views than she ever was by many fold. How can you hold the title of SuperMod, let alone mod when you have major issues with not only members of the moderation team, but also with the community and cannot grant them the simple polite respect they deserve, even if you do not agree with them.

Then again I don't expect anything to happen after this, just a slap on the wrist where others would be fired outright...

Re: ~~~~JACKS POST~~~~~~

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:43 pm
by Teal'auc of the Void
Mr Mystake wrote:Uh jenny, anyone who goes on ppt, and PPT itself stands for what? poor **Filtered** times? and now its a bad word when its used against Jack?

first, it's 'Poor Pathetic Times'

second - you really love to have dibs on me, right?



Teal'auc

Re: ~~~~JACKS POST~~~~~~

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:44 pm
by Legendary Apophis
Am I the only one who's more shocked by racial slur than by a forum edit by a mod, on the racist guy, using the word "idiot" on him, the person who did racial slur against a member of the community? :? :shock:
*is proud to represent respect group's original ideals*

Re: ~~~~JACKS POST~~~~~~

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:46 pm
by Z E R O
jack, your behaviour in this thread speaks for itself. If you wanted to fight accusations, perhaps behaving in a manner somewhat different to how you've been accused of acting would be smart.

;)

Re: ~~~~JACKS POST~~~~~~

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:47 pm
by Mystake
Tetrismonkey wrote:Luc - TKE YH 76 says:
AGA was out of line as a poster
Tetrismonkey/DEP Recruit Wallace says:
I know
Tetrismonkey/DEP Recruit Wallace says:
Im not saying he was right
Tetrismonkey/DEP Recruit Wallace says:
But im saying Jack should have edited the post, put AGA on a 2week ban and discussed it with the mods
Tetrismonkey/DEP Recruit Wallace says:
but he chose to stepped over the line and post what he did


I stand by what I said in that conversation.


Tetrismonkey/DEP Recruit Wallace says:
I saw the slur
it was about black people
Luc - TKE YH 76 says:
so make sure u write in ur post
Tetrismonkey/DEP Recruit Wallace says:
and not even that bad
Luc - TKE YH 76 says:
that AGA *did* make a racial slur
bad or not bad
a slur is a aslur
make sure u dont omit any details as to the situation
why jack edited it out
yo, dude
stop trying to get at Jack
you *know* that AGA was WAY out of line
ad Jack saved his ass from a perma ban

Re: ~~~~JACKS POST~~~~~~

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:54 pm
by Mystake
@ Tetris

(ya i know we're talking on MSN but for everyone's benefit)

if you want to keep it fair, then AGA should indeed be warned/suspended for his racial slur and Jack should apologize.

As it stands neither will happen and quite frankly Jack saved AGA a lengthy suspension so...

Re: ~~~~JACKS POST~~~~~~

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:00 pm
by Teal'auc of the Void
Jack, you are poor excuse for a moderator and you have your job just because Smoosh is your best buddy. So stop accusing Tetris for pushing that issue just because AGA is his best friend.

I don't love AGA, he's abusive user, but the way you 'modded' him you proved you are no better than him.



Teal'auc

Re: ~~~~JACKS POST~~~~~~

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:00 pm
by Severian
Jack wrote:Severian is **Filtered** cause I said his posts are too long and made his bumbuddy look like an idiot.


1) Why do you feel the need to trigger the filter so often. You are a mod, you are meant to be polite, you are meant to set a good example. Yet you constantly fail and are allowed to fail.

2) Why do you feel the need to insult and attack another user (Clarkey in this case) and get away with it where others would be warned on the spot?

3) Is not attacking someone's sexuality regardless of its false nature not further breaking the rules?

This is just from a single snippet. Most of your posts are along these lines and yet you are given free reign to abuse users constantly and consistently on these forums.

Re: ~~~~JACKS POST~~~~~~

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:02 pm
by Lord Akaroth
I will PM the "pm" to you jack =)


Jack maybe you should un edit your post back tro what aga said and then Perma Ban him...give these whingers something to actually moan about ;)

Re: ~~~~JACKS POST~~~~~~

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:06 pm
by Mordack
I think Jack made a mistake. To edit someone's post in that way, even if it was intended as a joke, was in admittedly poor taste.

However, I don't think Jack deserves to be publically crucified in this fashion. Nor do I think he deserves to be stripped of his modship. He's someone whom, whether you choose to acknowledge it or not, has done a lot of good for these forums; both in his role as a moderator/ombudsman, and as a frequent poster/spammer who contributes to discussions and topics. Cut him some slack, please, as we all all make mistakes, and we all make poor judgements from time to time.

If you feel there's been a problem, then report it accordingly and let it be dealt with by the forum admin. Let them sort it out. "Hate" topics of this nature, intended to whip the populance into some kind of frenzy, are as unproductive as they are petty.

Re: ~~~~JACKS POST~~~~~~

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:09 pm
by Teal'auc of the Void
Mordack wrote:I think Jack made a mistake. To edit someone's post in that way, even if it was intended as a joke, was in admittedly poor taste.

However, I don't think Jack deserves to be publically crucified in this fashion. Nor do I think he deserves to be stripped of his modship. He's someone whom, whether you choose to acknowledge it or not, has done a lot of good for these forums; both in his role as a moderator/ombudsman, and as a frequent poster/spammer who contributes to discussions and topics. Cut him some slack, please. We all make mistakes.

It's the double standard which makes people want to throw up, Mordack. You ask people to forgive his mistakes. He does them each day. He abuses forum users on daily basis. Nothing is done.

I was fired for 'being too emotional (=to be a human being) and stubborn... if that's worse than what Jack does, come on. Double standards. I want to puke, i really do.

He does not deserve to be a mod.



Teal'auc

Re: ~~~~JACKS POST~~~~~~

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:10 pm
by Mystake
Severian wrote:3) Is not attacking someone's sexuality regardless of its false nature not further breaking the rules?


That's like saying "that color is so gay"... homosexual jokes are thrown around so loosely today... heck the entire U.S. is a near description of what you said for having anti-gay marriage etc. But that's a whole different ballgame that is SOOOOO not worth going into.


Lord Akaroth: AGA has atleast 6 warnings and is currently banned. AGA was given the opportunity to edit his post before being banned. He actually edited it to "Jack is a **Filtered** mod" to which Jack did -not- give him a warning.
Woulda been easy if u think about it for Jack to dig up another post or two to ban AGA with, but he didn't.


also, quite frankly I find Jack's lack of tact to be quite refreshing. It gets VERY boring of mods trying to go "im sorry i has to do this please dun hurt me main account" and trying to be all phony and nice. atleast we got one moderator who is an actual human being and doesn't have robotic emotions.

Re: ~~~~JACKS POST~~~~~~

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:12 pm
by Teal'auc of the Void
Mr Mystake wrote:also, quite frankly I find Jack's lack of tact to be quite refreshing. It gets VERY boring of mods trying to go "im sorry i has to do this please dun hurt me main account" and trying to be all phony and nice. atleast we got one moderator who is an actual human being and doesn't have robotic emotions.

LOL, wasn't i fired for that...? Well at least according to you, I was. Make up your mind!



Teal'auc

Re: ~~~~JACKS POST~~~~~~

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:13 pm
by Severian
Mordack wrote:I think Jack made a mistake. To edit someone's post in that way, even if it was intended as a joke, was in admittedly poor taste.

However, I don't think Jack deserves to be publically crucified in this fashion. Nor do I think he deserves to be stripped of his modship. He's someone whom, whether you choose to acknowledge it or not, has done a lot of good for these forums; both in his role as a moderator/ombudsman, and as a frequent poster/spammer who contributes to discussions and topics. Cut him some slack, please, as we all all make mistakes, and we all make poor judgements from time to time.

If you feel there's been a problem, then report it accordingly and let it be dealt with by the forum admin. Let them sort it out. "Hate" topics of this nature, intended to whip the populance into some kind of frenzy, are as unproductive as they are petty.


You're one of the few mods I still respect entirely mate so I'll ask you to spend 5 mins going to Jack's profile and viewing his posts over the course of his modship. You'll find this is not a once off occurance but a persistant thing that he's been allowed to get away with time and time again.

When critisism is brought up, what does he do? Tries to imply that I have anal sex with another forum poster. Does that sound like the behaviour that becomes a supermod?

IMHO that is completely and utterly unacceptable regardless of rank.