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Lore wrote:The penalty was there from the birth of the race was it not?

Nope, not quite.

Taken from: viewtopic.php?f=30&t=91747

Original update:

Forum wrote:4) If you wish to DESCEND YOURSELF - ie 'quit ascension' .. you can. You will become a 'Daimon' - basicly a fallen divinity...This is the only race open to fallen ascendeds who chose their own demise...The bonuses are: whatever your ascended account had at the time of banishing yourself, MINUS the ascended blessing (so no unique tech to this race.) You maintain full bonuses in att/def/income/cov and your weapon strengths...From this race, you can choose a fully mortal race, or keep this race. No other options.

Subsequent update:

Forum wrote:update on Daimon: the battle losses from a daimon are double (on each side) and casualities on covert (ie the spies dying) are double...No glory either.
this makes it not only a bit more of a penalty, but creates a different playing style/option for the whole gameplay

The two posts are within a day of each other, the second following a bit of outrage because there was no real penalty to Daemon. But I remember some ppl actually managed to descend themselves in the few hours between the posts.

SG wrote:

FEARLESS wrote:

SG wrote:It is my understanding that you can simply switch to a base race and ascend once again if you choose to. You have an option out if you wanted it, so you can do that route.

If you're an LG+1, would you really want to ascend back
6x? It takes too much time.

Personally.. I think you are asking the wrong person since I have ascended at least 12 times Ascending doesn't take that long anyways, but it will take at least 12 weeks now. That is more or less 3 months worth of time. You can still do other things while you are 'ascending'. It's not like your whole life is put on hold until you can ascend back to 6x.

What Horus God Of Light said honestly. You were warned about the penalties and it seems like you wanted to 'test drive' the race more than live with it.

Firstly, just so you know, it could take you 84 days at max ascending...
that's a lot of days missing in UP. Also, you can't really expect that you won't get any conflict in the way through ascension.

Secondly,

FEARLESS wrote: Most Daimons did not really know the consequences of becoming a Daimon. Most of them just thought it was just a get away ticket to descension.

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Losing 2x sucks. You can't mass or farm efficiently at all.

Losing 2x,

You knew you would lose that before you made yourself a daimon, just because now you know the only way to get away from it is to pick a normal race again and ascend, thats hard luck, you wanted the easy way out of not playing ascended, now live with it.

FEARLESS wrote: I am speaking for every Daimon in main to be given another chance to start off. Most Daimons did not really know the consequences of becoming a Daimon. Most of them just thought it was just a get away ticket to descension. I am suggesting that perhaps there is something you could do to become back a System Lord, Ancient, Nanotech, or Tollan so anyone who regretted becoming Daimon can do so and make it more fun for SGW gamers.

Do I have to repeat myself?

Lord Balor wrote:exactly, you make your bed, you lie in it.

Saved me typing it...

you knew the risks and you went ahead...

its the price you pay for being undescendable...

an ascended being risks being descended... and also having to play a second server...

The choice you made is yours... you regret it now...

change race back to a basic race and start ascending again...

I have solved your problem without Jason having to code a single thing... The solution has been there all along... its just that you probably dont want to do it the hard way...

TheRook

FEARLESS wrote:

FEARLESS wrote: I am speaking for every Daimon in main to be given another chance to start off. Most Daimons did not really know the consequences of becoming a Daimon. Most of them just thought it was just a get away ticket to descension. I am suggesting that perhaps there is something you could do to become back a System Lord, Ancient, Nanotech, or Tollan so anyone who regretted becoming Daimon can do so and make it more fun for SGW gamers.

Do I have to repeat myself?

To be honest since Daimon was brought it people could see the exact consequences of becoming a Daimon... you cant have a get out of being a Daimon card just because you dont like it anymore... the results of being a Daimon were clear from the start and as such many didn't do it...

TheRook

im only of the few PROUD daimon!!!!!!

and ya sure, that ability would be good for daimons.. but i dc cause im staying

anyways, daimon isnt that bad... u dont have to worry about ascended... so imo daimon is the best ~!!!~

also, ur voting system is flawed.. there arnt over 20 active daimons ingame, second i think instead of this, i would rather prefer some new daimon updates where there are more advantages to be a daimon.

i will make this simple,

should they be able to go back directly to what they were B4 they became Daimons, NO you made a choice live with it, we all have to.

second, i do however believe that there should some other advantage to being one rather than just not having to deal with an all new server...

??????????

Weilandsmith proved 1 ascention takes you right back where you were in your ascention with the same account in ascended you already had.

The penalty is too harsh, the accounts can't stand toe to toe with an equel account and live. The massing and farming cost are simply 2 high. The small numbers of Daimon accounts, and the fact they are Decreasing prove that, atleast in my eyes anyway.

as lore said...

i got an LG+2 that descended to daimon. i got it because of the huge army size.

anywho, i changed from daimon to a basic race and started earning GR.

i saved enough resources in anticipation of ascending to prior.

when i had enough GR, i was being asked to pay ascending requirements for an LG+3.

i payed it and ascended to LG+3 and the old ascended account was re-activated.

the only thing that a daimon account has to do to re-ascend is convert to basic race, then ascend to the next level of ascension. if you were LG+1 before daimon, then you ascend immediately to LG+2.

Does your GnR points resets when you go back to a basic race or you have to earn them while your a unascended race?

Valume wrote:Does your GnR points resets when you go back to a basic race or you have to earn them while your a unascended race?

Since you can't gain or have any as a Daimon I would say you need to start anew. Ask Weil via PM

NO, it is well documented on what happens when you decide to change your race to Daimon, it more like your to lazy to play ascended so you want an easy life, then suddenly your getting pwned when you farm and when your farmed, so you want to go back with no loss,

Like it has been said, you make your choice to become Daimon, stick with it, for those who don't choose it there is no issue.