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i can agree with you LegendaryApophis, if they were pushed into a war, that is more understandable. but what about the ones who know nothing about it? i learned not long ago my commander was at war with someone which i still dont know who but what if i had accidentally attacked one of them? just farming not being agressive. i could have brought myself into a war i didnt know was going on. or what if their surrender turms were that i pay for damages just because i was helping my commander by being his officer? ive been on the bad side of an extortion attempt when i first started playing but fortunately i had a friend who was much larger than the extortionist. he made him back off. i suggest anyone just starting to play to make friends because it still happens. btw, too many players put ''at war do not attack'' on their planets whether they are at war or not. it doesnt stop them from farming non war players so they should be open to farming as well.

phantom1967b wrote:i can agree with you LegendaryApophis, if they were pushed into a war, that is more understandable. but what about the ones who know nothing about it? i learned not long ago my commander was at war with someone which i still dont know who but what if i had accidentally attacked one of them? just farming not being agressive. i could have brought myself into a war i didnt know was going on. or what if their surrender turms were that i pay for damages just because i was helping my commander by being his officer? ive been on the bad side of an extortion attempt when i first started playing but fortunately i had a friend who was much larger than the extortionist. he made him back off. i suggest anyone just starting to play to make friends because it still happens. btw, too many players put ''at war do not attack'' on their planets whether they are at war or not. it doesnt stop them from farming non war players so they should be open to farming as well.

Agreed, but well people use the excuse "it's a war game/I'm at war" when it suits them..
Because people shouldn't forget one basic thing:

Don't do to others what you wouldn't want they do to you.

And also, expect consequences to your acts, and don't feel like "wth?" when you did something wrong, like farming someone and thinking because of xyz reasons you wouldn't get anything backed at you.
I farm in ascended server, I farm in sgaw. And I'm fully aware of consequences.

Lois Lane wrote::lol: Having a dictionary day, are we Paul?


Biohazard said it right, imo. Well said, mate.

Guilty!!
well the two subjects I made were topics that always bothered me about the game in general.

@MLH - Thanks for the nice words. I agree with you for the most part, but when it comes down to it being at war doesnt make you limited to who can and cannot hit you, the popular term "vulture" doesnt exsist however the general term does and that would mean 80% if not 99% of the active server is vultures. Crying about being at war is just silly,, when I was playing I hit anyone regardless of war or not, simply because I could hit you before you where at war then I will hit you when you are at war. But I do agree reperations is different then extortion, when a alliance is declared victor, regarless of initiator, they should declare reperations.

Seems that most agree that there are many many different situations where the word extortion can be used in this game.

where as it is meant to deter players from repeating the same behavior.

I personal have been on both sides of this fence in many situations to include war reparations paid and received, and have found that most players just want respect and to feel feared so as to not be attacked a defensive strategy I suppose where the bark can be worse than the bite.

I have had very little issue with having to pay if I have hit someone at war out of respect for war status I happily repay. I dont consider 1 nag hit while a def is 0 a crime and wouldnt consider labeling someone a vulture for just one hit providing that person is unaware of the war status. Im not saying I havnt done that at all but in retrospect 1 hit does not equal a vulture.

On the same note I believe that when at war there is a level of respect due and assumed for that particular status. As admin has addressed and I am thank full of that.

Now the word vulture , again a vocabulary issue both accepted and not accepted by the community and should and could be defined as someone who deliberately attacks an alliance at war a number of times , knowing full well their war status.

Back to extortion, I dont agree that by virtue of a war game that extortion is the way its supposed to be played out and by extortion I mean asking for resources beyond what player B can pay. I do agree that it is a good deterrent again provided it does not go beyond player B's resources.

On war reparations , I dont agree that a fine should be paid by the defeated alliance , that they have lost and suffered losses is usually enough for me and I tend to advocate for no reparations unless there is some extenuation circumstances or punishment due to deter a specific behavior or a larger lesson to be learned.

I guess what this all boils down to is personal preference , conscience, and respect. If you treat someone respectfully, same as you would like to be treated you tend to go allot farther in these situations and with allot less hostilities. Commonly its the words used during initial contact that define where it will lead. Still it seems some prefer the hostile and disrespectful way to play and on that note who would we war with if we didnt have those players.

One can only hope that any player takes from this experience of playing SGW a higher understanding of how to communicate within this media and with individuals in general as we meet and greet people from around the globe.

well said, I like it, and I agree with you on reperations, situation does determine the ultimate outcome. The only problem is everyone has their own opinions. As for the vulture thing I knew about people who target those at war specifically, had a few run ins with those peeps.

I like how certain people/persons have described extortion in here, and have practised said definitions, I suppose thats how you get a good definition, practice.