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Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:52 am
by GeneralChaos
So you make double income, just means that said ascended player with massive strike makes you there new awesome farm, for little to no losses for them.
Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:54 am
by urogard
don't think it would be the case if your def was above their strike
and they get the same losses independent if target player is ascended or unascended
Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:23 am
by GeneralChaos
Yes but for you to have a def big enough to make sure they didnt get it you would need 4x as much, double to match there strike and double again to bypass there ascended blessing.
Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:25 am
by Vendetta
I wouldnt recommend trying it. It's a bug and i would hope Jason will fix it :/
Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:48 am
by urogard
GeneralChaos wrote:Yes but for you to have a def big enough to make sure they didnt get it you would need 4x as much, double to match there strike and double again to bypass there ascended blessing.
because there are so many people going around and farming only by relying on AB
Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:32 am
by RepliMagni
Interesting.....has anybody tried this for the other unascended races - ie: seen if their bonuses are much higher than stated (so Asgard get super def, etc)
EDIT: I can't try it - get this message in beta where my mobile planet defences should be, and no other options down the right where change race should be:
Catchable fatal error: Object of class stdClass could not be converted to string in /game/stargame/stargatewar.com/planets_summary.php on line 42
It might be known for a long time, but I can't think why jason would allow it to stay....
Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:37 am
by urogard
none of the other races get anything similar, tested with asgard and tauri not with legos
Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:43 am
by Mystake
seems liek a bug to me, even if jason knows about it.
kind of like how he changed AC'ing because of 'unintended features'
Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:01 pm
by weilandsmith
skunky wrote:look mate, heres the secret with the thing ur not understanding about the 2x bonus its because:
admin didnt realise that if you ascend to LG, then descend yourself straigt to a goa\'uld then the bonus of 25% is added to the goa\'uld bonus of 25%. that is why. its an old secret not many new players will ever learn of or know. can u post this on behalf of me. i was told it when i first started playing but never believed it. thanks
Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:23 pm
by urogard
weilandsmith wrote:skunky wrote:look mate, heres the secret with the thing ur not understanding about the 2x bonus its because:
admin didnt realise that if you ascend to LG, then descend yourself straigt to a goa\'uld then the bonus of 25% is added to the goa\'uld bonus of 25%. that is why. its an old secret not many new players will ever learn of or know. can u post this on behalf of me. i was told it when i first started playing but never believed it. thanks
his explanation is wrong.
it's not an added 25% on top of goauld bonus
your income actually becomes 80 miner base plus 25% and then all of that
DOUBLED and then increased by 10 % if you have no commander and another 1% if you turn on ads.
Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:03 pm
by RepliMagni
I would assume its just an error in the coding for that race...somebody bring it up at the next admin meeting and see what he says....
Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:13 pm
by facepie
c'mon, if you get rid of this "advantage" then unascended people who wish to remain unascended, have no major benefits left at all,
for those people it would be heaps harder to be a stronger player, so why are people making unascended accounts as weak as they could almost possibly be, when we should be expanding on a different aspect of the game where you can get a small advantage over ascended races....
sorry if that made no sense, but i hope anyone reads this post will get what im saying -_-
Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:19 pm
by Tekki
This is something that doesn't affect the unascended Facepie. It affects those who were ascended then chose to un-ascend back to a Goa'uld - they get double income bonus when they should be getting the normal never ascended Goa'uld bonus.
For someone who is just starting as a Goa'uld there is no change to their stats, just those who went back to it.
So fixing it wouldn't take anything from the unascended Goa'ulds.
Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:23 pm
by facepie
ahh, that makes sense then
Re: The benefits of BECOMING unascended
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:18 am
by urogard
and one more thing, interestingly tauri don't get double attack and asgard don't get double defense (at least according to my tests on dev server)
so even if it'd work on all unascended accounts why isn't it balanced for all 4 basic races
