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Re: how would you fix things...

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:29 am
by [KMA]Avenger
well, the world really is simple if you think about it...

the banking system is designed to fail.

the western capitalist system is designed to fail.

the wars are designed to keep people in power, perpetuate the falsehood that they are necessary and to maintain the belief that the western democratic/capitalist system is the way things should be.

banks are in control of everything, after all who is the master and who is the servant when you have your leaders and government begging the central bank for money?

government has NO interest in solving social or criminal problems.

the CIA is the number 1 drug runner in the world, which is why governments seem unable to get a hold of the drug problem, its because our governments are the drug barons,

trying to locate a BBC report where i read it but cant seem to find it, i have however found this:

[spoiler]Seventeen months after an American-registered DC9 airliner was busted with 5.5 tons of cocaine, a major international scandal is brewing over a second drug trafficking incident in Mexico's Yucatan involving an American-registered jet owned by a dummy front company of the kind usually associated with the CIA.

A weekend visit to “Donna Blue Aircraft Inc” of Coconut Beach FL., the company which FAA records show owned the Gulfstream II business jet (N987SA) which crash-landed with 3.7 tons of cocaine aboard in Mexico’s Yucatan two weeks ago, has revealed that the company’s listed address is an empty office suite with a blank sign out front.

There was no sign of Donna Blue Aircraft, Inc., at the address listed at the Florida Dept. of Corporations, 4811 Lyons Technology Parkway #8 in Coconut Beach FL....
and the report goes on but i will post the link to the BBC story as soon as i find it.[/spoiler]


the BBC report seems to have vanished...surprise surprise!
i've found this tho:
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5j6Q ... -xUcQEZbVg

and this:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 30,00.html

did you think the films Air America and Lethal weapon were full of crap when they were showing and talking about drugs being flown in by the military?


you can also watch ted gundersons (former FBI section chief) video on how the CIA not only runs drugs but is running a MASSIVE child kidnapping ring.
go look for yourselves, consider it "homework".

[spoiler]The Ted Gunderson Files
Retired FBI Special-Agent-In-Charge Ted Gunderson began uncovering evidence of government collusion in the cover-up of ...[/spoiler]

how quickly we have forgotten the iran/contragate scandle, and that was just the tip of the proverbial iceberg!!!


the school system (regardless of country) is not there to teach, but to maintain the dumbing down of the people. think about it, 100 years ago people were FAAAAAR more educated than they are now...are we not supposed to be more advanced in our thinking than our ancestors?

government and the military have no interest in serving the public, they only serve corporate interests.

all our economies are being run by the banks and they have designed our economies to fail...sooner or later, they will fail.

there is no reason for debt based money, debt based money is the device that has been created to enslave us all and is a mathematical certainty that it will collapse.
if you don't believe me, go look for yourselves how our debt based money system works, its doing EXACTLY what it was meant to do!


a scientific study carried out by MIT into the feasibility of thermal energy being used to provide a solution to the worlds energy problem, showed that thermal energy could power the ENTIRE world for 4000 years at minimal cost, so why are we still paying bills and burning fossil fuels while so much of the world remains in darkness????


there is a conspiracy against the internet by the big corporations because its the only bastion of truth and freedom of expression left in the world. the media is full of crap as are most of our politicians which is why companys like viacom are trying to get all sorts of censorship restrictions slapped on sites like youtube, and are pushing for internet 2 under the guise of "it will be better and faster than internet".

since 9/11 we have had a bunch of new laws, and under those laws i can be classed as a homegrown terrorist for simply talking about the things i talk about, so who is the real terrorist here?
and since when have we as "civilized" people living in the 21st century, had more cause to fear our government than a bunch of radicals hellbent on our destruction?!?!



but hey, don't take my word for any of this...in fact, consider me a liar or anything else you want, but go research for yourselves.



i could go on and on, but i think i've given you enough of a selection to make a choice :-)




oh, and BTW, all of this is because we have a debt based monetary system installed by a few power hungry inbred madmen at the top, who are satanists and are hellbent on world domination...

so how would you fix all that?


to be honest, i know for a fact that you are not ready for that info (and i haven't even got started yet) and will sit there laughing at me and call me mad...

but that's OK, i understand that you are in a place of ignorance and so i cant fault you for thinking like that, but please pay close attention to this quote by David Rockefeller:

Quote by David Rockefeller

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years......It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries".

Author: David Rockefeller, Source: Trilateral Commission meeting, June, 1991


this is why i use the word "ignorant", we are not meant to know whats going on by design, and if it wasn't for the internet, VERY few people would be aware of any of it...

so i go back to my original question...

how would you fix the world?

Re: how would you fix things...

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:50 am
by S0lid Snake
Nice post Avenger...

I found this little gem the other day:-

An October To Remember

Make sure to watch until the very end, it shows how Bush could use this crisis to initiate the continuity of government legislation leading to full blown Martial Law.


For those who dislike youtube and don't want to watch the video or are just to damn lazy, see below:-

[spoiler]Executive Order 10990:-

Allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

Executive Order 10995:-

Allows the government to seize and control the communications media.

Executive Order 10997:-

Allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuel and minerals.

Executive Order 10999:-

Allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

Executive Order 11000:-

Allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

Executive Order 11002:-

Designates the postmaster general to operate a national registration of all persons (Please note that the person is a legal fiction and the authorities will not be acting on the actual human being: See Robert A. Menard, the Strawman & Freeman concepts, also see consent to be governed, Did you consent to be governed?) .

Executive Order 11004:-

Allows the housing and finance authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations (Can you say FEMA Camps?).

Executive Order 11051:-

Specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency planning and gives authorization to put all executive orders into effect in times of increased international tensions or DURING TIMES OF AN ECONOMIC OR FINANCIAL CRISIS.

Open your eyes, the American people are being cornered and they don't even see it coming...

The FEMA camps...

The Military deployed on home soil...

Bush's disregard for the Posse Comitatus Act...

Possible war on many fronts, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, North Korea (Recently removed, but still on the protracted unofficial list) Venezuela and even Russia or China...

The piece are moving and the board is almost set...[/spoiler]

Namaste.

Re: how would you fix things...

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:12 am
by Juliette
Thanks S0lid_Snake! :D Great post.

I particularly like the list of executive orders, I needed that one for a debate with someone who told me how evil the government is. :)
Those orders are the proof that the US government at least tries to look after its thanes. Then again, I may be reading them differently.


;)

Re: how would you fix things...

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:04 am
by [KMA]Avenger
S0lid Snake wrote:Nice post Avenger...

I found this little gem the other day:-

An October To Remember

Make sure to watch until the very end, it shows how Bush could use this crisis to initiate the continuity of government legislation leading to full blown Martial Law.


For those who dislike youtube and don't want to watch the video or are just to damn lazy, see below:-

[spoiler]Executive Order 10990:-

Allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

Executive Order 10995:-

Allows the government to seize and control the communications media.

Executive Order 10997:-

Allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuel and minerals.

Executive Order 10999:-

Allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

Executive Order 11000:-

Allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

Executive Order 11002:-

Designates the postmaster general to operate a national registration of all persons (Please note that the person is a legal fiction and the authorities will not be acting on the actual human being: See Robert A. Menard, the Strawman & Freeman concepts, also see consent to be governed, Did you consent to be governed?) .

Executive Order 11004:-

Allows the housing and finance authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations (Can you say FEMA Camps?).

Executive Order 11051:-

Specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency planning and gives authorization to put all executive orders into effect in times of increased international tensions or DURING TIMES OF AN ECONOMIC OR FINANCIAL CRISIS.

Open your eyes, the American people are being cornered and they don't even see it coming...

The FEMA camps...

The Military deployed on home soil...

Bush's disregard for the Posse Comitatus Act...

Possible war on many fronts, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, North Korea (Recently removed, but still on the protracted unofficial list) Venezuela and even Russia or China...

The piece are moving and the board is almost set...[/spoiler]

Namaste.


thanks mate,

i already know of those so called Executive Orders (exec orders are abused by presidents when they want to get around the senate and bypass the usual routes taken when a law needs to be ratified...for those that dont know) and they make me sick to think nobody feels threatened.
all they need for martial law is another "incident" and they will be implemented, and the people who are laughing now will be screaming..."HOW DID THIS HAPPEN???".


you have all been warned!

Re: how would you fix things...

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:43 am
by Juliette
[KMA]Avenger wrote:the people who are laughing now will be screaming..."HOW DID THIS HAPPEN???".


you have all been warned!

Thanks, but I know this is coming, and yet I laugh.
It's no big deal. :) Really.

Re: how would you fix things...

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:58 am
by Cole
It's USA's business anyway..and if Obama becomes president, it won't happen.
So I don't see why we should be all "omg we are doomed".
And anyway I'm sure most of EU countries won't introduce it.

Re: how would you fix things...

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:29 am
by [KMA]Avenger
lmao :lol:

you guys are so naive its untrue :lol: :lol: :lol:

not trying to make fun of anyone but do you seriously think corporations and banks buy only one of the presidential candidates?

why gamble on a 50/50 chance of success when you can have a 100% guarantee of success by buying both candidates and the leaders of both major parties?

pops, if you think the EU is a good thing i have bad news for you mate...the EU is just as dirty and evil as both obama and mclame...i mean, McCain.


you people seem to think we are dealing with people who have a little morality, your wrong!

our leaders and all the top EU people are satanists, i suggest you research the Bilderberg group and the bohemian club. the bohemian club is where 2 thousand of the worlds top people go to every summer for 2 weeks and have homosexual orgies and practice a VERY old Babylonian custom of the cremation of care, they do this so they are rid of all conscience for the coming year.

but don't take my word for it, go research yourselves and see our leaders are satanists. it doesn't matter whether God exists or not, it doesn't matter if you are a person of faith or not, what matters is, these animals believe in the God Moloch, your beliefs have nothing to do with what these animals believe....

so how would you fix that?

Re: how would you fix things...

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:49 am
by Cole
This post made me trust 100% governements! Congrats! You managed to make trust fully governements.
I don't even want to comment what you said. Only thing I'll say...stop saying bs about Obama when you have no clue of who the dude is!!! And I'm pretty sure McCain isn't an idiot at all.
McCain isn't Bush, and there's no Cheney in VP spot (some manipulative extreme right with big exp and influence) mind you!
I'm sure both democrats and republicans can sometimes unite despite their different views on things...guess...the above post is one of those situations!

I stopped reading your post at half so much it was indecent. Indecent because it wasn't meant as a joke but meant seriously.

Re: how would you fix things...

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:00 am
by [KMA]Avenger
see jim, thats what i meant by "you guys are not ready for this info" because you don't understand and are kept ignorant by the media- of who our leaders are...

you think i made it up or read it somewhere and instantly thought it was the truth?

i've been researching a hell of a long time and i'm telling you, Obama is as dirty as they come!


did you listen to the speech obama gave while he was in germany?

jim, dont criticize me simply because you do not know who is running the world and who our leaders are, why do you think i hate our governments so much???


:?

Re: how would you fix things...

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:07 am
by Cole
Keep thinking that if you wish.
I stopped watching Prison Break because of their conspiracy theory crap (weak attempts at it).
ONLY good serie with conspiracy theories was/is/will always be X Files. Fox Mulder was/is credible, they make it be credible...rest series and rl ones etc is just crap.
Federation of Light was funny and nice...this one...MEH!

Re: how would you fix things...

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:34 am
by [KMA]Avenger
i've never seen prison break and could never get into X-files so i cant comment on those shows.

your not ready for the info so we'll just drop it because it is upsetting, even to me, so dont think i talk about those things without knowing how it sounds...

so, lets get back to the discussion at hand...how would you fix things?

Re: how would you fix things...

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:32 pm
by Tyber Zann
[KMA]Avenger wrote:see jim, thats what i meant by "you guys are not ready for this info" because you don't understand and are kept ignorant by the media- of who our leaders are...

you think i made it up or read it somewhere and instantly thought it was the truth?

i've been researching a hell of a long time and i'm telling you, Obama is as dirty as they come!


-According to you they are a big group of raving satanist homosexuals :lol:

-One too many conspiracy theory website's/books? :-D

Re: how would you fix things...

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:57 pm
by Cole
Accusing Obama to be as "dirty" as "them"...means that he's an obsessed homosexual satanist too..according to that crazy theory. And we are expecting from me to take it well and listen/agree to it?????


My reply to that...
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Your post is going to make republicans and democrats, alot more close and supportful, to their candidate, more than ever.


btw, I have taken a look at this bohemian club...it's NOT satanist...it's just some sort of weird group with strange ideas and strange statue...nothing like you described. Making mountains out of molehills again.

Re: how would you fix things...

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:44 pm
by Juliette
Seriously, I am starting to be offended by the repetitive remarks as to my supposed stupidity. If you think that you will achieve anything by insulting your audience, you're sorely mistaken.
You do not apply any logic whatsoever, therefore, no logical discussion can be had.



Heck, if I 'research', I come to the conclusion that I am supposedly a granddaughter of a reptilian, possibly a reptilian myself. What's next? I'm actually from Venus? :o And you dare accuse Scientology of being idiots?! :lol:



http://www.conspiracybomb.com/

^^ Übersite. I suggest you do some researching there.

Image
Wait! It's on the interwebz, so it must be true.. :lol:
After all, all interwebz authors are sane, logical and reasonable people who actually bother to do real research of academic standards.

Not.
And don't come here with that bullcrap about me being 'not ready' for your lies.. obviously, I am not naive enough yet. It's a shame. :)

Re: how would you fix things...

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:24 pm
by [KMA]Avenger
Lois, i'm not calling anyone stupid, i'm calling you ignorant, ignorant because you don't know, because you was never taught, not because you chose not to know (maybe you chose not to :P), there's a difference.

you people are living in LALA land, seriously...anyone ever heard of Alister Crowley or Jack Parsons?

[spoiler]Aleister Crowley

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

Edward Alexander (Aleister) Crowley was born October 12, 1875 in Leamington Spa, England. His parents were members of the Plymouth Brethren. He grew up with a biblical education and an equally thorough hatred of Christianity.

He attended Trinity College at Cambridge University, quitting just before completing his degree. Shortly thereafter he was introduced to George Cecil Jones, who was a member of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. The Golden Dawn was an occult society which taught magic, kabala, alchemy, tarot, astrology, and other hermetic subjects. It had many notable members including A. E. Waite, Dion Fortune, and W. B. Yeats. Crowley was initiated into the Golden Dawn in 1898. He advanced up rapidly through the grades. But in 1900 the order was shattered by schism, and Crowley left England to travel extensively throughout the East. There he learned and practiced the mental and physical disciplines of yoga, supplementing his knowledge of western-style ritual magick with the methods of Oriental mysticism.

In 1903, Crowley married Rose Kelly, and they went to Egypt on their honeymoon. After returning from Cairo in early 1904, Rose began entering trance states. She told him that the god Horus was trying to contact him. Crowley took Rose to the Boulak Museum and asked her to point out Horus to him. She passed several images of the god and led Aleister straight to a painted wooden funerary stele from the 26th dynasty, depicting Horus receiving a sacrifice from the deceased, a priest named Ankh-f-n-khonsu. Crowley was impressed by the fact that this piece was numbered 666 by the museum, the number which he had identified since childhood.
He began to listen to Rose, and at her direction, on three successive days beginning April 8, 1904, he entered his room and wrote down what he heard dictated from a shadowy presence behind him. The result was the three chapters of verse known as The Book of the Law.

In 1906 Crowley rejoined George Cecil Jones in England, and they set created a magical order to continue where the Golden Dawn had left off. They called this order the A.'. A.'. (Astrum Argentium or Silver Star).

In 1910 Crowley was contacted by Theodore Reuss, the head of an organization called the Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.). This group of high-ranking Freemasons claimed to have discovered the supreme secret of practical magick, which is taught in its highest degrees. Crowley joined, becoming a member of O.T.O. Crowley rewrote the rites of the O.T.O.

Crowley referred to himself as "The Beast" and indulged in every aspect of the occult and was obsessed with it. He was into every form of sexual perversion you can imagine. He also had various sexually transmitted diseases. Aleister Crowley died in Hastings, England on December 1, 1947. However, his teachings live on.[/spoiler]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Parsons

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20 ... dollar.htm



now as i said in my previous post, i'm dropping this subject because none of you are anywhere near ready to hear this truth. i tested the waters (so to speak) and its shown me enough as far as you guys being willing to accept the truth and this as far as i am willing to go...unless you would all like to continue in a more civilized manor?

i wont hold my breath :P



[KMA]Avenger wrote:i've never seen prison break and could never get into X-files so i cant comment on those shows.

your not ready for the info so we'll just drop it because it is upsetting, even to me, so don't think i talk about those things without knowing how it sounds...

so, lets get back to the discussion at hand...how would you fix things?