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Re: History of SGW
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:00 am
by Brdavs
All well and good but RM does indeed hit the nail on the proverbial head in many many ways...
Universe wrote:History is never written overnight, Magni.

It's the end result of a long and tedious debate..

It's why there isn't a single history book written by one writer.

And history being a result of debating and "compromise" is supposed to be a good thing? It distorts the "true" image to a degree, without a doubt. The victors and the strong (re)write history. The fact it is thus codified is a conveniance, weather or not its a hones account of actuall events depends on several variables, "later debates" being one of them.
I`m thinking "Ecumenical councils" lol... Which dogmas shall we support and which versions shall we eradicate today?

Advocating for the devil is phun!

Re: History of SGW
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:11 am
by Juliette
Brdavs wrote:And history being a result of debating and "compromise" is supposed to be a good thing? It distorts the "true" image to a degree, without a doubt.
Never said it didn't distort the truth..

there's no such thing as an absolutely true history ever written..

In fact, even the human themselves doesn't keep an accurate mental memory.
Brdavs wrote:The victors and the strong (re)write history. The fact it is thus codified is a conveniance, weather or not its a hones account of actuall events depends on several variables, "later debates" being one of them.
Too true.
Brdavs wrote:I`m thinking "Ecumenical councils" lol... Which dogmas shall we support and which versions shall we eradicate today?

Let us eradicate the dogma of 'war'..

Brdavs wrote:Advocating for the devil is phun!

Aye, sure is.
Re: History of SGW
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:20 am
by Tekki
Tekki
Re: History of SGW
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:26 am
by buck
My memories....Old files...any old msn logs, and my good ability to find very old things on the forum...and some other things im sure i can do....etc...are at your disposal

Re: History of SGW
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:28 am
by Quina Quen
Buck's a bit of a relic like. If he can't help you, then no one else can.
Re: History of SGW
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:34 am
by Angelos.
I don't mind helping out with stuff, i've been around since damn near the start of the game and have been in a myriad of alliances.
If you want anything off me regarding smaller alliances then just talk to me at
alexgeorge_427@hotmail.com
Re: History of SGW
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:35 am
by buck
Diamond Dust wrote:Buck's a bit of a relic like. If he can't help you, then no one else can.
You didnt have to say it out loud!

Re: History of SGW
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:54 am
by Colton
Nice idea, even though I've only been around a few months I'll be available if you need me.
Colton
Re: History of SGW
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:25 pm
by TheWay
My suggestion is that the area of war history be written from two points of view for each war and then be sent through a small review process where a few trusted sgw players can edit and in the end you will ahve a decently respectable history
The key is review and trusted writters of this history.
I think it is a great idea but i suggest you put a team together for review, otherwise it will simply be revisionist history and that would be pretty useless.
Also use old material from the forums both and and alliance for source material to give it some flavor.
Re: History of SGW
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:41 pm
by *Adamix*
Yet another rock that will remind me of the fun days of SGW, so many good memories that will never be forgotten
I'd help if I had the time,... maybe I will...
*Adamix*
Re: History of SGW
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:00 pm
by SVaRuN
Names posted in the first post. Those with italic font are those who didnt give me their msns which means they ll probably be operating though PMs and forums
The rest have been added to MSN
Also a forum has been created where the jist of the work shall be discussed so I ask all of those who have volunteered and will in the future to register on it.
There are just basic threads made which are neccessary to get us started. Like introducing yourself and telling where exactly you think and wish to contribute in the whole scheme.
Register at:
http://historymakerssgw.mojforum.siThanks for the reaction so far. Lets start making history by writing it down!
Note:
Thanks for the suggestions in this thread as well, taken into notice@TheWay
A sistem like that has as those registering will notice roughly been created but will needed to be improved and finished. Like some people have mentioned there isnt an universal history but we can do our best to make it as realistic as possible and that should be enough and in the end this time around the History will be written by people present instead of winners.
If you wish to leave nothing to coincidence then I suggest you cooperate in its making or you ll just have to read it be it to your liking or hindrance...Blue
Re: History of SGW
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:45 pm
by Cole
Count me in!
sgw_apophis@hotmail.comLegendaryApophis
(joined in feb 05)
Re: History of SGW
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:29 pm
by Wolf359
Sign me up Blue!
Wolf359
Might have to give me a heads-up/lead time on some stuff - pretty busy atm, but can plan stuff in if given enough notice!
Re: History of SGW
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:19 pm
by TheWay
I dont know a ton about the old school days however, I am a clever communicator and am decent at resolving conflicts which will arise so i would be happy to help in a limited sense
Re: History of SGW
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:03 am
by SVaRuN
To let everyone know that the work has started and to post the link to the forum once again
http://historymakerssgw.mojforum.siAnyone interested in what we are doing may register as well.
But for now a short description:
For starters we had and will devide into diffrent groups each doing their own specific jobs but also doing some other stuff. The story writers group was just asked to write their overivew of the SGW history.
Once written that shall be sent to one place and wont be posted untill everyone have finished (to prevent story interfearance (meaning stories of XYZ people influenting the writing of the others))
After that the stories shall be posted without telling who wrote what to again get rid of the influence factor always present and then the council we had and will be creating shall overview the thing make comments give some general guidelines and such...
After that the Censors we have yet to name shall overlook the thing and combine the stories into one.
Meanwhile the Council has started will start on picking up the terminology to use in the history itself (If you wish to learn about that visit the forum...)
Meanwhile the non story tellers will be asked to start gethering data
and meanwhile...
Yep its getting busy and its for starters a START
Like posted on forums...its not about weather or not we shall get SGW history. That we will. Its about the quality and the extent of the history we ll get.
Stay tooned will inform you about events as we go...
Note: People can still join the project at any time 
Blue