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Re: Life Beyond Earth?

Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 4:48 pm
by Nigatsu_Aka
The entire Universe is alive and it`s destiny is to fade eventually, the same like is for every living being.
Nothing is random. We`re a tiny spot, but we`re "alive". If in one tiny dot there is life, in the other quadrillions of tiny spots it is a very high probablilty to be also life.... however, we`re isolated.... and they are isolated too. It is phisically impossible to travel between such vast spaces and reach in time to meet another life before it fades away.

Do you know that every "heavy" chemical element was born from the explosions of supernovas?... The lighter elements can be born from within the "suns", but they are not enough to sustain life... there is need for iron, gold, platinum to "create life" and those are born only in supernovas... in conclusion, to create a life, other life must perish.... and there is also need for time... which we don`t have, and never will... because we will fade away very quickly in universal times... maybe a fraction of a second. :)

Re: Life Beyond Earth?

Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 5:14 pm
by Nigatsu_Aka
SuperSaiyan wrote:
Nigatsu_Aka wrote:The entire Universe is alive and it`s destiny is to fade eventually, the same like is for every living being.
Nothing is random. We`re a tiny spot, but we`re "alive". If in one tiny dot there is life, in the other quadrillions of tiny spots it is a very high probablilty to be also life.... however, we`re isolated.... and they are isolated too. It is phisically impossible to travel between such vast spaces and reach in time to meet another life before it fades away.



not necessarily true, different species have different life spans, whos to say another lifeform can't live for millenia? centeries?


What is an Earth milenia compared to even a 1 year of travel with the light speed converted into Earthtime?... many Solar Systems explode in that time span. :)
You are right about one thing thought... it all depends on the point of reference. If you refer to Earth time/coordinates, we won`t live enough to meet a life, and if you refer to another universal time/coordinate, we are just not so important to be noticed.

So, even if other life exists and i`m sure that it exists because otherwise the Universe would be such an enourmous waste of space, no one will be aware of the presence of a superior being due to the imposibility to choose other larger coordinates/time of reference.

Let me give you an example of coordinates: we are aware of microbs because we discovered the microsope, but the microbs are too small to be aware of us. They live within us and with us, feeding with us. Even if they`d have intelligence, our world reported to their size is an universe.... same is with us... we might be under a superior beings microscope, but we just don`t have the tools to get in contact with them... and the same is available to them. Mathematically, it is possible to tranform the coordinates and refer one system in another... but tell me how do you phisically do that? :?

Re: Life Beyond Earth?

Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 4:03 am
by Nigatsu_Aka
SuperSaiyan wrote:
Nigatsu_Aka wrote:
SuperSaiyan wrote:
Nigatsu_Aka wrote:The entire Universe is alive and it`s destiny is to fade eventually, the same like is for every living being.
Nothing is random. We`re a tiny spot, but we`re "alive". If in one tiny dot there is life, in the other quadrillions of tiny spots it is a very high probablilty to be also life.... however, we`re isolated.... and they are isolated too. It is phisically impossible to travel between such vast spaces and reach in time to meet another life before it fades away.



not necessarily true, different species have different life spans, whos to say another lifeform can't live for millenia? centeries?


What is an Earth milenia compared to even a 1 year of travel with the light speed converted into Earthtime?... many Solar Systems explode in that time span. :)
You are right about one thing thought... it all depends on the point of reference. If you refer to Earth time/coordinates, we won`t live enough to meet a life, and if you refer to another universal time/coordinate, we are just not so important to be noticed.

So, even if other life exists and i`m sure that it exists because otherwise the Universe would be such an enourmous waste of space, no one will be aware of the presence of a superior being due to the imposibility to choose other larger coordinates/time of reference.

Let me give you an example of coordinates: we are aware of microbs because we discovered the microsope, but the microbs are too small to be aware of us. They live within us and with us, feeding with us. Even if they`d have intelligence, our world reported to their size is an universe.... same is with us... we might be under a superior beings microscope, but we just don`t have the tools to get in contact with them... and the same is available to them. Mathematically, it is possible to tranform the coordinates and refer one system in another... but tell me how do you phisically do that? :?



if they're watching, lets make a big sign out of rocks on the beach 8)


:lol: Nice response... but again, it`s the problem with the reference. If they see it will that mean something to them in their coordinates? I doubt about it.

Re: Life Beyond Earth?

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 10:14 pm
by iron spiderman
I believe it was Dr. Hawking that stated that a civilization sufficiently advanced enough to start searching for life outside of its own world, would be advanced enough to destroy its self. Given that hypothesis, maybe life has and will exist throughout the universe, but will be long gone before we find it.