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Re: WTH (Ombudsman) nomination discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:25 pm
by semper
MEZZANINE wrote:
Semper wrote:Don't worry though, I am not going to take all this 'running for Ombudsman' seriously... im far too unpopular for being honest, blunt, logical and fun to be given a fair chance at it. :-D No doubt all of EPA will vote for Dundee, all of FS will vote for Mezzanine and so on and so forth...history proves this lesson. :wink:

Good luck none the less! :lol:


MEZZANINE wrote:
Well thats my opinions and NO BS approach, those who agree with my point of view will vote accordingly, those who want a pansy talker type or just want a friend in the position, go vote elsewhere :-D


I hate repeating myself, dont make me do it again :lol:


Or you will what Mezz? Mass that poxy 80bill defence I have.. :lol:

Well I am glad you are maintaining that, and you got a little bit more respect from me for saying it... (not that either of us really care..) but.. your old and ugly enough (as the saying goes) to know better. :-)

Re: WTH (Ombudsman) nomination discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:14 pm
by Noobert
I have quiet a few reasons behind this post but I'll simplify it.

No to everyone but Dundee, and possibly Free if he gives up his position as a moderator.

So far, anyone who is playing the political game here is a definite no in my books. We don't need a political player, we need somebody neutral to handle all matters with the same intensity as they would a smaller or larger case.

Re: WTH (Ombudsman) nomination discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:58 pm
by Jack
Noobert wrote:I have quiet a few reasons behind this post but I'll simplify it.

No to everyone but Dundee, and possibly Free if he gives up his position as a moderator.

So far, anyone who is playing the political game here is a definite no in my books. We don't need a political player, we need somebody neutral to handle all matters with the same intensity as they would a smaller or larger case.

Agreed 120% just like the DVD ripping softwarez, C2H5OH.

Re: WTH (Ombudsman) nomination discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:10 pm
by Manetheren
Universe wrote:1. Experience:


I work as an Aircraft Dispatcher for United Airlines. My job on a daily basis is to safely and efficiently plan 40-50 flights for United Airlines. Once planned I am responsible for watching these flights till they land at their destination. I have to deal with any issues or conflicts that arise before or during the flight. This can range from the pilot wanting to carry less people and more fuel to a disagreement over who the delay is assigned to. I am often placed in the role of mediator between maintenance and flight crew.

Universe wrote:2. Mediation:


Again, my current job requires me to be patient and a mediator. I also have 4 young children at home that require a fair amount of patience as well.

Universe wrote:3. Eloquence:

I usually get straight to the point but can string more than a few words together as needed. I liked math much better than English in school but did decent enough on the SATs to go to the college of my choice.

Universe wrote:4. Prioritising:

I often deal with 3-4 issues going on at one time in my work environment. An aircraft over the North Atlantic with an engine problem requires more timely attention than a payload increase 1 hour before a flight leaves.
There are many times that the issues arent that clear cut regarding their priority but they still need to be completed on time in the right order.

Universe wrote:5. Accepting adversity:



No matter how strongly I advocate my position to a Captain, he/she is the final authority on the aircraft and sometimes go with against my suggestion. I am also married to a very strong willed woman and, while we get along, I dont always win with her.

Re: WTH (Ombudsman) nomination discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:11 pm
by Noobert
You involve yourself to greatly into matters, Tetris. After that whole ordeal with Jack, I wouldn't want that to happen again with any other moderator. The moderators do their best, even if people say otherwise. These jobs on the forum are thankless and you cannot please everyone, let alone have to worry about warning somebody just to see the person complain.

The job of the Ombudsman is to help the players with warnings and problems with moderators or warnings given, not crucify the moderators in question.

Past actions is why I would have to vote no.

Re: WTH (Ombudsman) nomination discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:33 pm
by Noobert
Tetrismonkey wrote:Psat actions? I did what was best for the community by trying to have Jack punished for over stepping his bonds as a Mod. What did I get in return? Ridicule, hate and people like you holding a gruge for my actions. My actions were just and sound, they were not done to crucify him, but to punish him. Mods every day make mistakes, but when they make a mistake, they need to learn from it, not continue to make them and get away with it.

If you dont wish to vote for me because of that, fine, thats your loss. I have always fought for whats right for the community. I have recently made a few mistakes, but corrected them. You think im one sighted, look whos talking. You dont wish to wiegh the others, others that havnt even tried to participate yet.

These votes, when they happen, will be allinace based. FS will vote for FS candidate, and so on and so forth. If you must beg or ask to get a vote, then already you arnt worthy of the position.

Let yourself read and decide.

I was just voicing my opinion, and you took it to heart. You asked me a question, I answered and you got defensive.

If you wanted to have Jack punished, you should have asked the Admins. The Ombudsman. Hell, even Jason. Not make a thread saying Jack should be fired. I do not hold a grudge, I am just stating if you act like that then my vote for you would go a different way.

Anyone can weigh themselves, but if I don't think they are not suited for the job, I'll damn well say it. If you don't like it, to bad. Go cry to somebody who cares because quiet frankly this job effects the moderator team that is doing their job every day to benefit this forum more then one person.

People who vote for their alliance mates, instead of voting for the right person should be kicked in the ass and sent on their way. Those people know EXACTLY who they are. They messed up the awards already with popularity votes, let's just hope they don't mess up something that actually matters.

Re: WTH (Ombudsman) nomination discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:49 pm
by Jack
Tetrismonkey wrote:but in the end, it all failed due to favortism. Again, you say no to me without even having all the facts behind my actions then.

Or maybe it all came down to a difference in opinion of what is ok and what isn't.

Re: WTH (Ombudsman) nomination discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:53 pm
by semper
Noobert wrote:People who vote for their alliance mates, instead of voting for the right person should be kicked in the ass and sent on their way. Those people know EXACTLY who they are. They messed up the awards already with popularity votes, let's just hope they don't mess up something that actually matters.


Sorry to say Noobert, but thats Rich coming from a member of Mayhem. I, more than anyone have seen exactly how people have voted in the awards... you can try that righteous tune..but...

*looks at price on bottom of coke bottle he is holding, then places it back down onto the counter of the gift shop*

I am not buying it.
I may well agree with plenty of your other reasons, I can even guess at some of them... but to say that, then say you support Dundee...its VERY hypocritical and a contradiction...

no offence meant, because your one of the few people around here I think I would like..if I had that capacity, but seriously. If your going to make points.. dont insult my intelligence at least.

Re: WTH (Ombudsman) nomination discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:56 pm
by Noobert
Semper wrote:Sorry to say Noobert, but thats Rich coming from a member of Mayhem. I, more than anyone have seen exactly how people have voted in the awards... you can try that righteous tune..but...

*looks at price on bottom of coke bottle he is holding, then places it back down onto the counter of the gift shop*

I am not buying it.
I may well agree with plenty of your other reasons, I can even guess at some of them... but to say that, then say you support Dundee...its VERY hypocritical and a contradiction...

no offence meant, because your one of the few people around here I think I would like..if I had that capacity, but seriously. If your going to make points.. dont insult my intelligence at least.

The only award we asked our players to vote on was Hall of Fame. Some players deserve to get in, and some don't.

The rest was their decision, I cannot make it for them. The PROBLEM was people voting for friends because they did not know anyone else.

I am not supporting anyone. Although, I am definately not insulting your intelligence. Want to know why? Simply because it would just turn this thread into a very..very.. long read. :lol:

Re: WTH (Ombudsman) nomination discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:01 pm
by semper
Noobert wrote:
Semper wrote:Sorry to say Noobert, but thats Rich coming from a member of Mayhem. I, more than anyone have seen exactly how people have voted in the awards... you can try that righteous tune..but...

*looks at price on bottom of coke bottle he is holding, then places it back down onto the counter of the gift shop*

I am not buying it.
I may well agree with plenty of your other reasons, I can even guess at some of them... but to say that, then say you support Dundee...its VERY hypocritical and a contradiction...

no offence meant, because your one of the few people around here I think I would like..if I had that capacity, but seriously. If your going to make points.. dont insult my intelligence at least.

The only award we asked our players to vote on was Hall of Fame. Some players deserve to get in, and some don't.

The rest was their decision, I cannot make it for them. The PROBLEM was people voting for friends because they did not know anyone else.

I am not supporting anyone. Although, I am definately not insulting your intelligence. Want to know why? Simply because it would just turn this thread into a very..very.. long read. :lol:


:lol:

Well for hall of fame voting.. I would agree with you all on the part of Jenny at least...im surprised she was not in there already.

Re: WTH (Ombudsman) nomination discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:02 pm
by Jack
Tetrismonkey wrote:Are we really going to do this again Jack?

Yes please. :-D

Re: WTH (Ombudsman) nomination discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:08 pm
by semper
A little birdy informs me the purple man will be going for the role too. :wink:

Re: WTH (Ombudsman) nomination discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:13 pm
by Noobert
Semper wrote:A little birdy informs me the purple man will be going for the role too. :wink:

Which birdy? I'd like to shoot said birdy. :lol:

Re: WTH (Ombudsman) nomination discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:13 pm
by Jack
Semper wrote:Universe informs me the purple man will be going for the role too. :wink:

*cough*

Re: WTH (Ombudsman) nomination discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:27 pm
by semper
Jack's Ghost wrote:
Semper wrote:Universe informs me the purple man will be going for the role too. :wink:

*cough*


nope.

I added the 'a little birdly told me' because I knew it would draw attention. TBH I was speculating at it because well thats his lot in life if you catch my drift, and he has been active on the forums. If he does, he will probably be the best candidate.

You have now both confirmed it for me though.