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Re: Nice victory Sleepy

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:19 am
by bebita
i don't want to have a peace wave
kalanor u will be a turn farming **Filtered** don't worry :)
and as for afirmation
do you think one of the most experient player in this game if not the most experienced player from all high empty sayed for nothing?
don't forget
high empty winn manny waves and he knows what is required to winn a wave in this quantum
and he can recognise a not fair game from someone
i think he can see where is team work and where is not
if u press quantum legends u will see what i mean
seijuro hiko a guy who never finish in top 100
a guy who never played this game to have friends
sunddently he have 5-6 friends who are willing to spend 100 k turns in 3 months
strange for me :shock:

Re: Nice victory Sleepy

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:12 am
by Kalanor
i have no doubts about HE mastery in quantum (but to be honest he overestimated dragons in last wave) and even if he or you does have a point about HIKO's farming strategy, i don't see a point to throw a dirt at him without having any proof. And how do you know he has only 5-6 friends? And if you start farming in the last month of the era (like HE did before) you don't have to spent a lot of time farming to get 5 tril naq ( HE farmed 500bil in 30 mins ). Didn't we all see accounts in very low ranks and big army size on PPT? They were feeding top 5, and they were countless.

And did someone notice that only significant difference between HIKO and Sleepy is in their MS power? Why no one is wandering how could sleepy farm 20 tril this wave only by him self? (only with little tiny help of his comrades) I am not trying to accuse anybody here, i just want to point at the point of this all (as rodney will say lol.... there is no point in your point :lol: )

Start using some evidence, or congratulate to HIKO and get over it. :-$

Re: Nice victory Sleepy

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:52 am
by S1eepy
Just to make it clear .. Seij spent about 6-8t more on his ms, 7t more on techs, and 2-3t more on weapons (because he went for the big ones)

In the end, there was a big difference in all but anti-covert level.. And that's coz Ivl 28 was supposed to be my ace-in-the-hole.. But it got trumped

Re: Nice victory Sleepy

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:20 am
by bebita
Kalanor wrote:i have no doubts about HE mastery in quantum (but to be honest he overestimated dragons in last wave) and even if he or you does have a point about HIKO's farming strategy, i don't see a point to throw a dirt at him without having any proof. And how do you know he has only 5-6 friends? And if you start farming in the last month of the era (like HE did before) you don't have to spent a lot of time farming to get 5 tril naq ( HE farmed 500bil in 30 mins ). Didn't we all see accounts in very low ranks and big army size on PPT? They were feeding top 5, and they were countless.

And did someone notice that only significant difference between HIKO and Sleepy is in their MS power? Why no one is wandering how could sleepy farm 20 tril this wave only by him self? (only with little tiny help of his comrades) I am not trying to accuse anybody here, i just want to point at the point of this all (as rodney will say lol.... there is no point in your point :lol: )

Start using some evidence, or congratulate to HIKO and get over it. :-$

no wonders about sleepy
and u know why
because i help him
he get help from hippy and others
i am just wondering how seijuro
anonim guy in this game find a way to have so manny friends
sleepy get help from top 5 army size in this game
seijuro don't
and still sleepy nothing near him
hope admin will read my sugestion and stop feeding
at least from inactive accounts from this game
evidence u ask?
i am not admin to have one
i have only facts
results of cheating
or he start trowing his helps if indeed have ones and not a proxy ip
or he will be most dirt winner of this game
i have nothing to prove
seijuri have to proof that he play fair
but i don't see any sign of his helps
why
because was only one
like a guy sayed to me on msn
there is a blog somewhere where seijuro and other guy admits they cheated before in quantum
why this time is different?

Re: Nice victory Sleepy

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:37 am
by Neimenljivi
Hmm..well I just wanna say, like I told some people on msn aswell concerning this subject, that I hope Seijuro didn't cheat as I consider him a friend and will be very disapointed if he had cheated.
There are, however, some quite suspicious facts, though, which have been pointed out a zillion times and I won't get into them. I belive him when he says he got fed but just for the sake of it I'd be very pleased if admin would check him and tell us. As I said, I trust Seijuro that he didn't cheat, got fed lots - yes, but not cheated (ie. got fed from a friend that owns more accounts and got fed by all of them, using some sort of script or creating new accounts and using them)..I just want admin to vertify it if I'm wrong or not and if I ain't that other people will see that Seijuro didn't cheat.

About Affirmation..Well you yourself said you fed Seijuro, but in other thread you said you were going for #1 and spent 150$ for USSs, to have a bigger chance...See, that's something I don't get - you were going for rank 1 UNTILL era ended (at least that's how I understood you and considering some facts about you) but you still fed Seijuro while he had enough lead and the rest of us too that even if you managed to spend/train everything it'd still not be enough probably even for top 15 finish. So why would someone who knows his friend has many feeders (and won't be damaged much by a feeder less) and wants to finish on top, spend his time and reasources for which he had basicly payed, to put a friend further in the lead and himself further behind? Of course if your goal wasn't to finish high then yep, you help your friends with everything u can when u fulfilled your goal..but you were going for #1 or at least top.
Oh and teamplay isn't a bunch of inactive accounts feeding one, teamplay is when it works out and benefits for everyone and everyone involved is active.

See that's one of the reasons feeding is bad. If it weren't for the feeding part this thread probably wouldn't exist. I just hope it gets forbidden for the next era.

Like I said at begining, I still belive Seijuro to be innocent and trust him..Just hope admin can clear him and all doubts from everyone will vanish.

~Jack

Re: Nice victory Sleepy

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:54 am
by bebita
PS
for who tried to spy seijuro in the last 2 hours i think u know that was impossible
nothing so wierd in that
a guy who hit him for over 2 hours
but whats strange seijuro was unaible on msn this time
was to busy with hitting his account?
i repeat again
i don't need to prove what i see
seijuro if is clean and honest player
to come with real proves that i am wrong and he have right

Re: Nice victory Sleepy

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:29 am
by Neimenljivi
Indeed bebita, this is one of suspicious things I was talking about aswell..I would also love to see proofs about who was attacking him for that long.

As I said before, I hope he didn't cheat but like you said bebita, some evidence should be given.. If he had cheated he has disapointed me a lot. I won't lose more words concerning this subject as I belive everything needed was told already and I don't want to be misunderstood.

I'll say just one final thing specifically to Seijuro:
You treated me with respect and had earned it from me and I belive you didn't cheat even though most of the facts are against you because you are my friend and I trust my friends..I just hope I am not mistaken and you haven't lied. It's also not about what the Quantum Legends show, it's about what people think of you. I only hope you and/or admin will provide proof and prove if I had been fooled or other people because when someone loses trust in you he or she will never be able to trust and treat you like s/he had done before. I learned that the hard way (it wasn't cheating or anything like that, but something else, some of you know what I'm talking about) and I regret it to this day. I just hope you didn't make such big mistake because at the end of the day the truth comes out and if you lied you soon regret your actions.

~Jack

Re: Nice victory Sleepy

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:00 am
by GrimmJoW JaGGerJaCK
well the only logic i can understand is that i dont have friends to feed me rite .. well then as i said as in wave3 i told we were 4 of us .. but only 2 ended up in ranks .. this time too only two of us ended up in ranks ..

bebita wrote:PS
for who tried to spy seijuro in the last 2 hours i think u know that was impossible
nothing so wierd in that
a guy who hit him for over 2 hours
but whats strange seijuro was unaible on msn this time
was to busy with hitting his account?

moreover i was chatting to hippy, bilbao & kalanor while in the last 2 hrs .. i was online but was invisible .. because had to invest everything ... u want me to chat .. when the wave is ending lol .. what a great logic .. ur indeed the brainiest one i have seen .. hats of to u

Re: Nice victory Sleepy

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:01 am
by bebita
GrimmJoW JaGGerJaCK wrote:well the only logic i can understand is that i dont have friends to feed me rite .. well then as i said as in wave3 i told we were 4 of us .. but only 2 ended up in ranks .. this time too only two of us ended up in ranks ..

bebita wrote:PS
for who tried to spy seijuro in the last 2 hours i think u know that was impossible
nothing so wierd in that
a guy who hit him for over 2 hours
but whats strange seijuro was unaible on msn this time
was to busy with hitting his account?

moreover i was chatting to hippy, bilbao & kalanor while in the last 2 hrs .. i was online but was invisible .. because had to invest everything ... u want me to chat .. when the wave is ending lol .. what a great logic .. ur indeed the brainiest one i have seen .. hats of to u

i was expecting to not give anyproof about your honestity
i can't be right in everything
i don't have the tools to check u
i sayed what i saw
and quessing after my eyes
my eyes saw alot beeing no1 covert in quantum
maybe if i didn't had that covert i didn't saw that u redraw naq from bank and spending them very low
i can only quess u was bussy hitting yourself

Re: Nice victory Sleepy

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:04 am
by [BoT] Jason
bebita wrote:
GrimmJoW JaGGerJaCK wrote:well the only logic i can understand is that i dont have friends to feed me rite .. well then as i said as in wave3 i told we were 4 of us .. but only 2 ended up in ranks .. this time too only two of us ended up in ranks ..

bebita wrote:PS
for who tried to spy seijuro in the last 2 hours i think u know that was impossible
nothing so wierd in that
a guy who hit him for over 2 hours
but whats strange seijuro was unaible on msn this time
was to busy with hitting his account?

moreover i was chatting to hippy, bilbao & kalanor while in the last 2 hrs .. i was online but was invisible .. because had to invest everything ... u want me to chat .. when the wave is ending lol .. what a great logic .. ur indeed the brainiest one i have seen .. hats of to u

i was expecting to not give anyproof about your honestity
i can't be right in everything
i don't have the tools to check u
i sayed what i saw
and quessing after my eyes
my eyes saw alot beeing no1 covert in quantum
maybe if i didn't had that covert i didn't saw that u redraw naq from bank and spending them very low
i can only quess u was bussy hitting yourself


bebita can you like talk to some 1 who speaks your home tongue and ask them to translate coz i dont understand :lol:

Re: Nice victory Sleepy

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:06 am
by bebita
Pimping D wrote:
bebita wrote:
GrimmJoW JaGGerJaCK wrote:well the only logic i can understand is that i dont have friends to feed me rite .. well then as i said as in wave3 i told we were 4 of us .. but only 2 ended up in ranks .. this time too only two of us ended up in ranks ..

bebita wrote:PS
for who tried to spy seijuro in the last 2 hours i think u know that was impossible
nothing so wierd in that
a guy who hit him for over 2 hours
but whats strange seijuro was unaible on msn this time
was to busy with hitting his account?

moreover i was chatting to hippy, bilbao & kalanor while in the last 2 hrs .. i was online but was invisible .. because had to invest everything ... u want me to chat .. when the wave is ending lol .. what a great logic .. ur indeed the brainiest one i have seen .. hats of to u

i was expecting to not give anyproof about your honestity
i can't be right in everything
i don't have the tools to check u
i sayed what i saw
and quessing after my eyes
my eyes saw alot beeing no1 covert in quantum
maybe if i didn't had that covert i didn't saw that u redraw naq from bank and spending them very low
i can only quess u was bussy hitting yourself


bebita can you like talk to some 1 who speaks your home tongue and ask them to translate coz i dont understand :lol:

srry lool
is the best i can do :(

Re: Nice victory Sleepy

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:08 am
by [BoT] Jason
no problem i no how it feels

Re: Nice victory Sleepy

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:02 am
by Neimenljivi
Pimping D I hope for your own sake you're not making fun of his english! Not everyone's speaking english as their first tounge and at least bebita is trying! Not to mention that anyone who wants and tries can understand him. Here's the "translation" (me and bebita speak diffrent first tounges btw and my english is far from perfect but I can still understand him..hm.:
I wasn't expecting you to show any proof about your honesty [not cheating]
I can't be right at everything as I also don't have the means to check you.
I said what I saw and guessing judging by facts I saw.
I saw a lot as I had #1 covert.
Maybe if I didn't have such high covert I couldn't see that you withdraw your naq from your bank and were spending it slowly.
I can only guess you were busy hitting yourself.


~Jack

Re: Nice victory Sleepy

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:27 am
by Affirmation
To Jack, bebita and any others, I did not mean to offend anyone but I try to be vocal and get my opinion out there. I do feel the need to come to HiKo's defense, and felt the need to do it before any Admin investigations, etc. I know why I play, and yes, I play for as high a ranking as I can, why else play?? I can see Jacks confusion, why play for top rank but also help others, yes, that is confusing. Unfortunately, I believed I could do both!!

Well, my own documented stupidity (in another Thread) of my inability to get a solid Internet connection and the comedy of my Era 16 finish probably hurt my finish, but I really, really thought I could help a friend AND finish in the Top 10-15. I am an optimist, after all!

Friend, now there is the word. Yes, I trust that Hiko is the same person I knew from before, but what do we really know?? He chats the same, his syntax and messages have the same flair, and style, but he is still just letters typed on a screen. I trust him, as you can trust a cyber-friend, and just have to go with the flow.

I choose to play these games, because I love to compete, and this is a way I can do it late at night, and in the process, find some comradery, cyber-comradery that is. I do get a little guilty pleasure though, from nit-picking the rules and finding ways to utilize them around the status quo.

Status-quo in Quantum:
1. I can read and see the Quantum legends, so I know who Hippy is, I know of HE's legendary feats. I teamed up with Legendary DevilDog this Era (it was an honor) and I learned a lot from him.
2. Super alliances, like TCC, Owned, Omega, are legendary, BUT, they love to keep it that way... Hence my need to nit-pick the rules to shake things up.
3. S1eepy, is a legendary player, I respect him and try to learn from the Forums and gain an advantage. But just because he is so, does not mean that we upstart newbies cant try to change a legendary players 'assumed' finish at the top of the ranks. He will adjust, and hopefully enjoy the challenge of new strategies and techniques, w/o wanting to automatically change things drastically, so things can be "back the way they've always been". How boring would that be?
4. Long time players finish first, upstarts and new players should just play and revel in their awesomeness.
5. Newbies like me should know when to be quiet... HAHAHA

Again, apologies to anyone if my playfulness with the language was insultive, NOT my intention, just wanting to voice an opposing thought so that all the issues can be hashed. The game will be better for it, I hope.

Re: Nice victory Sleepy

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:29 pm
by S1eepy
I welcome new players to challenge the top.. What I don't understand.. Is a new player sacrificing his chance at competing to feed someone.. Would seem you are afraid of competing, and are doing so vicariously though the actions of a bigger account.