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I have a friend that ascended at 4,5mil army.

I used to ascend at less than 1mil army size, but those were different times...

ok let me it lay it dowmn for you my friend miners are good for these things, income it produces more then uu and if you had all your units in voert, defence and ac if you had 100 mill army if you are massed you will have well close to nothing left if you have 50% - 80% in miners that what i have when you are massed you can rebuild in the ame day and mas them back if need be, miners arent all about income.

miners =
income
bank space
to rebuild after war.

What they say.

Miners = good.

Kinda good for so much i think you should read what everyone says else find me on MSN or ingame and i help you.

Tekki wrote:And you will quickly discover that it's not worth it to ascend 'big' as it used to be.

Is that actually true for a first ascension, Tekki? A big ascension would give an ascended account a much larger kickstart than it did for us, due to the decreased prices. Thing is, your account grows so saddingly quickly that the next ascensions does nothing.

Tacet wrote:

Tekki wrote:And you will quickly discover that it's not worth it to ascend 'big' as it used to be.

Is that actually true for a first ascension, Tekki? A big ascension would give an ascended account a much larger kickstart than it did for us, due to the decreased prices. Thing is, your account grows so saddingly quickly that the next ascensions does nothing.

Ascended account needs a jumpstart about as much as a Yugo needs pushing downhill. It`s crap, it don`t work, nobody wants to drive it or be seen driving it but it goes down hill provided you leave it in neutral.

The 2k turns net you more LF (if well spent) than a solid ascension these days.

Good luck building stats with no income.

S1eepy wrote:or.. be crazy and do what I did for my first ascension..

Train all your units to lifers, then you dont lose them..

lol, thats what im doing now

I would highly recommend training A LOT of miners. I had been training them for stats, because I did not think I need to worry about being massed because I am generally peaceful. BUT NO. SOme jerk massed me just because he was bored, and killed half my army. If I had had more miners it wouldn't have happened. SO, don't make the same mistake. If you have a lot of miners, you can store naq in you bank, and then if you need high stats you can untrain your miners and train them into whatever you need, and use the naq to buy weapons.

Vendetta wrote:Good luck building stats with no income.

Who said i don't have income. And never heard of farming!?

Good luck keeping stats if you farm me x

Nothing much I can say other than what has already been said. Miners = Good. Train lots. The majority of your army. Your MS and AC are good ways of climbing ranks to get GnR. FSS with the 1001 GnR points BEFORE you ascend is a brilliant idea.

Oh, and any UU that you're not training straight away should be put into Miners. Not only will it temporarily increase your income, but it will also protect them from being raided from you. I learned the hard way. >.<

UgolinoII wrote:Good luck keeping stats if you farm me x

I have nothing against the T/T. I try to keep good, at least neutral relation with you, which i consider as allies.
And i still have to farm for units. Otherwise it takes an eternity to build an army.
PS: Whats AC?

Anti Covert, one of the highest givers of powersss... why you see alot of alliance with alot of power, someone has 50T or so AC happening if not more

xXxsephirothxXx wrote:Anti Covert, one of the highest givers of powersss... why you see alot of alliance with alot of power, someone has 50T or so AC happening if not more

And AC is what covers your stats ingame, like army and naq!?