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actually surprised this hasn't been implemented in the 3+ years i have been playing.

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I completely agree

* Also agrees *


But..

Look at MS Massing. Admin Jason made the 1at hits on a MS more relative to 1/15th..and there was such was a complete uproar on forum/irc. I don't think he completely changed it back, but it certainly tipped the scales closer to the original levels.

Sorry to be a cynic guys, but even if this went through. . what is the probability that those that *like* massing cheaply will simply have it changed back again. High IMO

I'm for it.

~Qacol~

I agree also, but as many people that agree with this, there will be as many people that disagree and can whine louder. As Caprilla said, good idea but will either not happen, or will get reversed upon the uproar of the people who just wanna be able to mass with pretty much minuscule losses.

Empedocles wrote:I agree also, but as many people that agree with this, there will be as many people that disagree and can whine louder. As Caprilla said, good idea but will either not happen, or will get reversed upon the uproar of the people who just wanna be able to mass with pretty much minuscule losses.

Sadly thats the biggest problem with the game. Defenses are liabilities, attack has far to much of an advantage.

When you can sacrifise 7 mill men to kill 35 mill, its just to skewed.

I can mass any def in the game and loose nothing. I massed down 50 mill supers with best weapons and lost 2.5 mill. I one turn half way then 15 turn the rest easy times. Don't forget I'm set up to mass.

qacol wrote:I can mass any def in the game and loose nothing. I massed down 50 mill supers with best weapons and lost 2.5 mill. I one turn half way then 15 turn the rest easy times. Don't forget I'm set up to mass.

A prime example. 2.5 mill to kill 50 mill. Even the massers agree its skewed.

I also agree...attackers already have the benefit of their MS...the 1 AT attack needs to be changed...I too have massed defenses that were twice as big as my strike and lost very little by using 1 turn hits...15 turn hits should be the standard...

I agree.
All you need do is soften up their weapons a bit with 1AT hits, and your good to go. Like qacol said, no offense, takes little effort/resources/losses to remove ANY defence

signed.

the MS battles are completely screwed up, as explained here: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=140159&p=1723338#p1723338

You know an even easier fix to this problem,

If you dont use 15 AT's your MS doesnt go in, you require a 15AT hit to make your mothership engage, and do stop people with a 2trill strike on there MS, if you dont have an attack to back the MS attack you do 0 damage to enemies MS.

As it stands that wont affect the MS massers as they have a strike to cover it to make double damage, but it would stop 1 or 2 having a huge MS and no strike.

nice idea!!!

Maybe not 15 as the minimum, how's about 10? Unless there's still an error with the MS battles where 1AT=15At, then I'm with 15 too

indeed that needs to change