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Re: Shall I play for rank?
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 11:50 am
by Inyx
Oh Hippy...
People are flawed...Sometimes they get caught and called out...Sometimes they don't...And being "flawed" is often times relative. Just because some of us define particular forms of feeding as less than honorable game play, doesn't mean you have those same definitions. If you agree with what seems to be the majority, then perhaps a nice dose of virtual humility was just what you needed.
You're really in kind of a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" position. If you quit, you wont get anything out of what may be your last era...If you do finish and rank up there you are certain to get the feeding thing thrown your way. So you really don't have too much to lose.
In such cases...Do what you want...Do what makes you a happy Hippyfool.
Re: Shall I play for rank?
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 12:03 pm
by Slugworth Assrot
bebita wrote:as for anyone record i bet hippyfool doesn't have more then 30 k turns used this wave maybe less
he took turns and after that uu
with his multies took the naq required to build up
when i look in his logs he had 76 attacks made
..............
so everyone who still thinks hippyfool have tactics u are wrong
he have 3 times more turns like a honest player
maybe more
.........
seijuro hiko =fearless=kalanor=hippyfool
u will realise that when his account will be fuelled probably with over 20 tril in last hours of the wave even if his bank is no more then 3 tril
like seijuro did in the last hours
in this moment hippyfool and sleepy his main and real feeder are down and they will remain there just to make sure they wil not have reason for covering multies in the last hours
What does that mean??
You're saying Hippy and S1eepy are the same person?!
Re: Shall I play for rank?
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 12:08 pm
by Sorrow
Sleepy fed Hippy 1.5trill for an AC level as far as I know that's what bebita's referring to.
Re: Shall I play for rank?
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 12:09 pm
by bebita
no that i am sure they are not the same
but sleepy get feed by hippy last wave
and dunno for how much time they are doing this
how manny waves
protecting blind hippyfool (thats sleepy) is just clear to me that sleepy knows about this accounts from manny waves and they work in team for one of them to play for rank
they played both inactive this wave and they keep the step
dunno how they could recover massings over massings and losing income with their play while i was active and one step ahead them all wave but never go ahead to much while all server remain 2 steps behind even if they was more active then both of them
for me is suspect all their play this wave and is not done with tactics or smart playing
my quess is done with more turns then it should
i don't need admin to see when someone is stronger then it should be
Re: Shall I play for rank?
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 12:12 pm
by bebita
and what is more annoying is how they laugh about the guys who puts money ingame and they are still behind them
Re: Shall I play for rank?
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 12:16 pm
by Slugworth Assrot
bebita wrote:and what is more annoying is how they laugh about the guys who puts money ingame and they are still behind them
Re: Shall I play for rank?
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 12:29 pm
by Slugworth Assrot
Ive been suspicious for a long time about a lot of those seemingly inactive accounts with good UP that do nothing but PPT.
Accounts like -
Nitro
Kusardo
Jenviva
Kensiky
Tzuicabej
Elite
Macg
Sox69 (?)
And plenty of others, Im sure I could easily list another 10 'possibles' if I looked through the rankings. A few of them build things occasionally, perhaps to give the pretence of actually playing. I'm not saying they are all feeding accounts, but it does make me wonder.
And what about those Darth accounts, Roo and Piglet and Tauri and such. I know its been reported before, but wasnt it S1eepy and/or Hippy that defended them. I recall there was a story that they are all one big family and play together, but stories like that are easy to make up, just like spuddo and zebrahives - Hippies good irl friend bob and sidney or w/e. I notice they havent been very active at all this era... perhaps the spotlight was too worrying?
Re: Shall I play for rank?
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 12:37 pm
by bebita
yeah
me i reported darth familly admin sue i quess ban them for multying but jason said they are just a family and unbanned them
i took it for good since i know jason doesn';t take anyone part
as for tzuicabej i know him about the others idk
Re: Shall I play for rank?
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 4:09 pm
by S1eepy
bebita wrote:no that i am sure they are not the same
but sleepy get feed by hippy last wave
and dunno for how much time they are doing this
how manny waves
bebita wrote:for me is suspect all their play this wave and is not done with tactics or smart playing
Last wave, I needed help to try and catch SeiJuRo.. so Hippy gave me the naq for my covert level. (common knowledge by now)
This wave.. I played properly for the first 6weeks (ish) and had one of the top UPs... I seem to remember you and HE always pushing ahead, and me taking advantage of the lowered cost to keep up? (tactics? smart playing?)
But then i started getting busy at work, and anytime i wasn't working i was spending with my new girlfriend. so after a few weeks of this my UP had dropped too far behind the leaders to be a threat to the top armys (bebita, HighEmpty and Hippy) So i decided that I would play for ME, and not rank.. so I started saving my turns, and massing anyone with too many spies. But mainly saving my turns for the end.. when the ME would be easiest to get.
bebita wrote:protecting blind hippyfool (thats sleepy) is just clear to me that sleepy knows about this accounts from manny waves and they work in team for one of them to play for rank
As for protecting him blindly, its like I told you ingame..
Hippy is my friend, and I will defend him until there is actual proof he has cheated. I would do it for any of my friends. Doing anything else would be a betrayal of that friend.
Have we played as a team for many waves? yes.. we have been in TCC and discussed tactics and massed people together.
Have we been giving each other naq? no... last wave was the first time we exchanged any naq.. to combat SeiJuRo.. and this wave I repayed the naq when I had fallen to far behind to compete. I repay my debts.
And if i remember correctly bebita.. you also wanted to stop SeiJuRo last wave, and you gave me naq as well. Albeit a small amount. Which would also have been repayed.. until you started farming me and we ended up massing each other..
This is tactics. Its helping your friends when they need it.. and trying to stop a mutual enemy/rival
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But as you said to me over PMs..
bebita wrote:Message text:
i am not a naive
and i will not leave everyone to think at me what naive is bebita
is a ****ing cheater and nothing will change my opinion
Nothing will change your opinion, because you refuse to listen to anything but your own voice.
Oh and if admin was told all about it in the meets, he must have checked Hippy out, and decided he was not a multi.. so you were wrong about that... just like about the darths?
Re: Shall I play for rank?
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 4:15 pm
by HippyFool
Slugworth Assrot wrote:But Affirmation.... Hippy Fool didnt use tactics or strategy. He just cheated.
No tactics or strategy? You talk as if i have unlimited naq, or that i have farmed like 50t+...
I have farmed about the same amount as bebita or HE or akhal or any other of those people with high ME. This means i have had equal amounts to work with as all of them, and have had to deal with plenty of massings along the way.
Re: Shall I play for rank?
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 4:39 pm
by bebita
S1eepy wrote:bebita wrote:no that i am sure they are not the same
but sleepy get feed by hippy last wave
and dunno for how much time they are doing this
how manny waves
bebita wrote:for me is suspect all their play this wave and is not done with tactics or smart playing
Last wave, I needed help to try and catch SeiJuRo.. so Hippy gave me the naq for my covert level. (common knowledge by now)
This wave.. I played properly for the first 6weeks (ish) and had one of the top UPs... I seem to remember you and HE always pushing ahead, and me taking advantage of the lowered cost to keep up? (tactics? smart playing?)
But then i started getting busy at work, and anytime i wasn't working i was spending with my new girlfriend. so after a few weeks of this my UP had dropped too far behind the leaders to be a threat to the top armys (bebita, HighEmpty and Hippy) So i decided that I would play for ME, and not rank.. so I started saving my turns, and massing anyone with too many spies. But mainly saving my turns for the end.. when the ME would be easiest to get.
bebita wrote:protecting blind hippyfool (thats sleepy) is just clear to me that sleepy knows about this accounts from manny waves and they work in team for one of them to play for rank
As for protecting him blindly, its like I told you ingame..
Hippy is my friend, and I will defend him until there is actual proof he has cheated. I would do it for any of my friends. Doing anything else would be a betrayal of that friend.
Have we played as a team for many waves? yes.. we have been in TCC and discussed tactics and massed people together.
Have we been giving each other naq? no... last wave was the first time we exchanged any naq.. to combat SeiJuRo.. and this wave I repayed the naq when I had fallen to far behind to compete. I repay my debts.
And if i remember correctly bebita.. you also wanted to stop SeiJuRo last wave, and you gave me naq as well. Albeit a small amount. Which would also have been repayed.. until you started farming me and we ended up massing each other..
This is tactics. Its helping your friends when they need it.. and trying to stop a mutual enemy/rival
--
But as you said to me over PMs..
bebita wrote:Message text:
i am not a naive
and i will not leave everyone to think at me what naive is bebita
is a ****ing cheater and nothing will change my opinion
Nothing will change your opinion, because you refuse to listen to anything but your own voice.
Oh and if admin was told all about it in the meets, he must have checked Hippy out, and decided he was not a multi.. so you were wrong about that... just like about the darths?
it wasn't checked
and yes offcourse u are protecting him
u winn waves with cheating naq from hippy
Re: Shall I play for rank?
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 4:40 pm
by S1eepy
Slugworth Assrot wrote:Accounts like -
Nitro
Kusardo
Jenviva
Kensiky
Tzuicabej
Elite
Macg
Sox69 (?)
Nitro has been a very active player in the past.. and Kensiky has won a wave.. aswell as coming 2nd in another.. I also remember Kasardo from a few waves ago, I think he was the leader of an alliance?
They are likely players who just log into Q from time to time to see how its progressing, because they haven't stopped playing.. are just sitting the wave out?
Slugworth Assrot wrote:And what about those Darth accounts, Roo and Piglet and Tauri and such. I know its been reported before, but wasnt it S1eepy and/or Hippy that defended them.
Any no.. i never defended the Darth accounts, and i don't recall Hippy doing so either. But I have experienced the account being investigated by admin on multiple occasions, and every time he has decided they are legal. Which I tried to tell bebita.. but.. he doesn't listen to reason
I think you should be more careful with your accusations, and not just accuse accounts of being dodgy without any reason. And get your facts straight before you claim what people did and didn't do?
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Edit:
bebita wrote:u winn waves with cheating naq from hippy
If you check.. SeiJuRo won last wave
The wave before that I won.. and Hippy came 3rd..
the other wave I won was the gambling wave..
But very logical argument as ever bebita
Re: Shall I play for rank?
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 4:43 pm
by Shadow_Dragon
Isnt this just an issue about feeding?
I heard that/read the accusations and as far as feeding goes you have clearly said that you received naq, the question is simple then is that cheating or using naq (freely given) by an alliance member?
Personally I would lend/give naq to my alliance mates if it meant they had a better chance in gaining ranks or power, I see no shame in this, all I have said is that im dissapointed that the alliance blowing all the trumpets about feeding accounts have infact been doing just that themselves...
I look forward to next era when im sure that we wil be able to look at this in a more diplomatic manner.
Also I wouldnt like to see you leave the game because of these accusations, caught red handed for feeding is
naughty Hippy lol
I havent seen any evidence to say that you have used multi's or scripts as that would be
Very bad Hippy lmao
If you understand apart from my silly comments, it doesnt make you bad for being a team player, cheating does..
and until I see evidence to contradict whats been said you are just a player that used a feeder...
Ok if you got this far what im really saying if you havent cheated dont run away stay and fight for your reputation..
Im going to run off now
Re: Shall I play for rank?
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 4:45 pm
by bebita
yeah
he cares about his reputation polarising me
and as far i remember mr sleepy u acused fearless of cheating for less that i find at hippyfool .........
Re: Shall I play for rank?
Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 4:56 pm
by EnVy!
i can say i know nitro is not a multy... he may log in and feed now but in my mind thats legal. i dont know about everything but me and nitro were good friends once so he is indeed not a multy. he is just sitting wave out. now when you get ready to pick away at this message i want to say... i think friends feeding is legal and what admin allows as tactics. but when people are payed cross server and never play for rank it gets in the gray area but is accepted by me. but when multy accounts from one location or IP is feeding another account to make a super account is what i say should be investigated. thats illegal. now same IP accounts no problem because people have friends and family but to feed another from same one is deemed cheating in my mind. now as far as it goes ... to late in this wave to change world and i have trouble getting mad at hippy when he is not the only one benefitting maybe. like i said let it be for this wave and next it wont be a problem. no secrets. everyone will know. no hiding. now let the massing begin lol