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Armed & Dangerous wrote:wow! go cry me a river!

first of all i didn't read any post or pm where kikaz apointed you as 2IC. what gives you the right to call people traitors? threaten them to be kicked from the alliance? threaten them to mass them?

second: what did you expected that akhal will wait for you to attack him first? or did you thought you were all mighty because you were ranked 1?

third: i thought you will figure out that akhal have more firends, knows more players then you. players he wared with in the past, players that he only need to ask for help and mass the sh!t out of entire quantum. and thats what happened. you were zeroed. with thor and lb cause they were manipulated by you.

forth: i've told you in owned forum that you are stat building coward. you didnt even try to attack me after the massing. same thing goes for thor as well. but hey you are not skilled to fight me 1 on 1 when im online. i understand that. how was it? ah yeah, you follow the only logical course of action. flee from battlefield, then snick on them when they are sleeping and after that go around talking how you were kicking buts.

im going to sleep now. if you know what i mean (yes you do!) and i hope you build up more tomorrow. thor already did.

umm sorry i allow no one to manipulate me like that, i had previously told kikaz about my issues with akhal privately via msn and then privately via the owned forum, the result was kikaz couldnt care less and at one point just said lol, i personally dont think thats the mark of a good leader. the thing to note here that isnt showing up in this forum is that T1T2 made every effort to make a resolution peacefully and privately, first via msn and then on the owned forum, it was thrown back in his face everytime.

as i said on the owned forum, akhal's constant and mostly unneeded or unwanted farming defeats the whole point of an alliance and if i get no protection from attacks within the alliance there is no point in being there, that was why i chose to take my leave, Kikaz's in game message which did basically give all owned members permission to do what they liked effectively was the final nail in the coffin.

i originally joined owned when i started this wave because its my first time into quantum because some people told me they were the best and most organised, the experience i have had is vastly different to what was suggested, i can only say they are best purely because they have numbers but as to organised and true quality i really dont know, my short experience tells me otherwise....

Kikaz wrote:
1. Hippy sold up before I got on.

2. I may have ordered jedi massed but I did most of the massing, Zhar massed the MS, but I did the full Defense and half of the strike, Zhar the other half, though had his boss not walked in Zhar would have done alot more.

3. If you dont like the way I run the alliance than leave.

4. You over think things way too much.

5. Jedi was massed at my hands not orders as I already stated, yes he was a threat at the time with an 18b strike and hitting for 37b total with MS.

6. The next question is how long will YOU last, everyone else has been in the alliance for several years.

7. You involved yourself with akhal, you could have easily sat back, kept your mouth shut and you'd still have your stats and army, I.E. you didnt have to get involved, you chose to.

8. I had no problem with you untill you started making idiotic as well as immature posts such as this.

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Kikaz wrote:All of you are welcome to leave the alliance at any time. Be warned doing so will make the things you are all complaining about far more worse.

and that is why we're all in owned. kick***

anyways to number 5, in case you wonder...
at that time
4 peopel could cause damage to his strike if jedi massed,
2 people could cause damage to his defense if those two massed,
and two of the 4 were at peace with him
he could have cleaned the entire alliance with 10 bil repair or less...

But i chose otherwise i still Had some respect for kikaz and alot of people in Owned

Lord Blood wrote: some people told me they were the best

No

Lord Blood wrote:and most organised

lol

'some people' are silly

S1eepy wrote:

Lord Blood wrote: some people told me they were the best

No

Lord Blood wrote:and most organised

lol

'some people' are silly

lol that's an opinion and it's subjective to what alliance you are in

short experience always gets owned by long experience

it wouldn't matter which alliance I was in, the opinion would be the same, based on my experiance and interaction with owned over the years.
And I'm more experianced than most/all of owned if it's length of play your looking at.

Farming within your own alliance without permission is not nice...
Not responding to any message by alliance members is not nice...
Not caring about the wellbeing of your own alliance members is not nice...
Shadow_Dragon telling my secretz to others is not nice...
Jedi & Akhal stealing me moniez was not nice...
Farms of this era are not nice...

And thats about..it...

Scenester wrote:Farming within your own alliance without permission is not nice...
Not responding to any message by alliance members is not nice...
Not caring about the wellbeing of your own alliance members is not nice...
Shadow_Dragon telling my secretz to others is not nice...
Jedi & Akhal stealing me moniez was not nice...
Farms of this era are not nice...

And thats about..it...

'
lifes tough...get over it

or change alliance (wink wink nudge nudge if you get wat i mean)

Scenester wrote:Farming within your own alliance without permission is not nice...
Not responding to any message by alliance members is not nice...
Not caring about the wellbeing of your own alliance members is not nice...
Shadow_Dragon telling my secretz to others is not nice...
Jedi & Akhal stealing me moniez was not nice...
Farms of this era are not nice...

And thats about..it...

lulz...the other thing not nice is
stealing my farms right now.

got to love that moniez lol

Ok now, in-alliance farming is a good strategy, expecially in Q. where you probably get attacked turnly by enemies regardless of income. keeping naqudah out of enemy hands is good
Now I agree massing in-alliance is never good, Kikaz has intimicy issues I guess. Also after he masses the rest of the game I guess he gets bored. But tbh, you dont learn not to build massive stats or leave income out unless you learn the consequences, so if you like, consider it a learning oppurtunity.

Is Owned the best Alliance?, No far from it, is actually quite terrible, but that said it is the best there is, as there is no good'ens anymore since I haven't made one since like wave 6/7 or w.e, so suck it up.

If you want to know why Akhal would farm you, it's because you havent got enough defences to defend his attacks and leave out more naqudah than the rest of the game. Basically you have made yourself a farm, it's a circumstance of being a low stat member of the best Alliance, all other Alliance leave your naq alone (accept the few crazy people (you know who you are), who will then win the wave because they have more naqudah farmed) unless the non-farms of an your Alliance take measures.

In a game with so few active players, hitting friends is a unfortunate yet pretty concurrent event. Basically the motto is if you don't take it someone else will, unless your Alliance members can bank 24/7 (ah the days where we used Macros and multi user's to bank, those were the days) the alternative to this is farming. Now I am not a fan of farming, in any kind, against inactives, actives, or Alliance members, I hate farming, I wish it was taken out the game. We could have income, we could use it to build and to mass and that would be it, what a game =) but alas, many people love to farm.
If you wish to make/be in an Alliance where In-House farming does not occur then Owned is not the Alliance for you, the Alliance which is for you, will not be winning the wave, garuenteed. But if your goal is not to win, but have an idillic peaceful zone for yourself to build pretty houses with pickett fences then go do that and all the best to you.

12agnar0k.

^^^
agreed .... on the farming though.
whats better your friends having your naq or your enemies taking it

i often ask a mate of mine to turn farm me so that owned.... er i mean the enemies dont get it



also massing allaince mates is fun till a point where it gets personal

The farming isn't the issue, it's the fact we had several Alliance PM's from Kikaz saying no one is allowed to farm other alliance members unless permission has been given. Then a few days later numb-nuts Akhal starts farming everyone, people complain, nothing gets done. And i'm talking turn farming too, 10 seconds after a turn change, not mid-turn when it's kinda fair point, someone else may take it.

so yeah, people get pissed off when alliance orders are only applied to anyone not called Akhal. I can't comment on the forum issues, i don't use the owned forum because quite frankly Mikgamer is a moron, always has been, always will be.

don't get me wrong i like Kikaz, he's a good guy, but even with me being fairly inactive the owned b/s is getting to me. Either you have alliance orders or you do not, make your mind up Kikaz, are you the leader or is Akhal?

Yes an order was given out to cease in-alliance farming, so even if it is a good strategy Akhal should have stopped, but seeming as im not actively playing I let him farm me and thats as far as I was bothered to go with it.
If Kikaz wants to be listen'd too he should enforce his rules I suppose, but thats up to him