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Re: An Overview of the History of the Ombudsman

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:48 pm
by Jack
renegadze wrote:The history is all well and good, but it's amazing how people's perspective can be flipped to suit their needs!

The bit about you having to go through Mods and Admins to get things done is wrong...Admins I can maybe understand, the The Ombudsman should have to answer to the Mods (An Ombudsman would never answer to the people he was asked to "investigate") :roll:

I never said anything about going through the mods, I said working with the mods and requiring administrative approval. The Ombudsman DOES have to work with the mods. When the Ombudsman refuses to work with the mods it only serves to make his job that much more difficult, likewise with the users.


renegadze wrote:A true Ombusman should not be seen to be friends with Mods/Admins and neither should they hold a vested interest on any group ingame. They are supposed to be totally impartial with decisions based on facts alone.

A true Ombudsman would not be affiliated with the game in anyway other than the job position it held. This is not possible. The Ombudsmen are free to make friends with the mods and admins just as they are free to make friends with the users. This does not necessarily impact their impartiality at all, but only in the minds of paranoid ninnies.


renegadze wrote:Eros was quite clearly short tempered, ever thought he was elected because people wanted someone that could rile things up? someone that actually would fight their corner!

It does not matter if that's what they wanted, the Ombudsman is supposed to help solve problems, not cause them. He wasn't just short tempered, but paranoid and delusional.


renegadze wrote:I do agree Spacey in no way insulted him, but he didn't need to be PC as Ombudman is the title regardless of who does it :P it's a body of authority and doesn't actually relate to the gender of the person carrying out the role.

Ombudsperson is not something Spacey just made up on the spot, it's the actual gender neutral title used now-a-days.

http://www.answers.com/ombudsperson


caesar2 wrote:ok, you should delet your acount Jack

If you can refrain from spamming this thread, I'll refrain from banning you.

Re: An Overview of the History of the Ombudsman

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:12 am
by FreeSpirit
caesar2 wrote:So its just a part of whole history, an overwiev made by Jack? Ah, than its maybe not written as it should be...


Actually his post is for 99% acurate. If u add sempers post u have the missing 1% . SO maybe your bias towards Jack as mod plays a bigger role in your post then him stating facts or in your eyes fiction if U have no idea how things went. And as jack pointed out next to him i know most of the role ;)

Re: An Overview of the History of the Ombudsman

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:33 am
by caesar2
FS, sure it plays big role. after many experiences with this person i cant be biased aganst him :)

Re: An Overview of the History of the Ombudsman

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:44 am
by FreeSpirit
caesar2 wrote:FS, sure it plays big role. after many experiences with this person i cant be biased aganst him :)


Hence why i now confirm Jack's post or am i biased to?

Re: An Overview of the History of the Ombudsman

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:29 am
by Juliette
FreeSpirit wrote:
caesar2 wrote:FS, sure it plays big role. after many experiences with this person i cant be biased aganst him :)


Hence why i now confirm Jack's post or am i biased to?

Yes.

Re: An Overview of the History of the Ombudsman

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:42 am
by caesar2
FS, i wont coment your personality, but yes. your biased to :)

Re: An Overview of the History of the Ombudsman

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:51 am
by Clarkey
Everyone's biased to a certain degree because everyone has feelings and emotions (well most do).

But i've never seen the word biased thrown around a place as much as I have this forum.

Re: An Overview of the History of the Ombudsman

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:55 am
by caesar2
Clarkey wrote:Everyone's biased to a certain degree because everyone has feelings and emotions (well most do).

But i've never seen the word biased thrown around a place as much as I have this forum.



100% agree

Re: An Overview of the History of the Ombudsman

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:28 am
by Noobert
Clarkey wrote:Everyone's biased to a certain degree because everyone has feelings and emotions (well most do).

But i've never seen the word biased thrown around a place as much as I have this forum.

Yes, but Caesar is implying Jack is bias on his write up of the Ombudsman Overview simply because of previous events that Caesar did not like the outcome of.

That's like me calling you bias for warning me and not Caesar, Clarkey. :lol:

Re: An Overview of the History of the Ombudsman

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:39 am
by caesar2
Noobert wrote:
Clarkey wrote:Everyone's biased to a certain degree because everyone has feelings and emotions (well most do).

But i've never seen the word biased thrown around a place as much as I have this forum.

Yes, but Caesar is implying Jack is bias on his write up of the Ombudsman Overview simply because of previous events that Caesar did not like the outcome of.

That's like me calling you bias for warning me and not Caesar, Clarkey. :lol:



ahh noobert.

another biased person i dont like.

Re: An Overview of the History of the Ombudsman

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:53 am
by Noobert
Since you think I am bias, can you please prove it? Or are you talking about bias in General where as I favor friends over mouth pieces on a forum who talk through their ass?

If you think I am bias a moderator, you had your chance to prove it. You chose to sit quietly. Didn't Buck say you couldn't bring it up again if you didn't prove it or am I mistaken? :lol:

Seems I'm not.
viewtopic.php?f=132&t=136103

Re: An Overview of the History of the Ombudsman

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:06 am
by Juliette
Noobert wrote:Since you think I am bias, can you please prove it? Or are you talking about bias in General where as I favor friends over mouth pieces on a forum who talk through their ass?

If you think I am bias a moderator, you had your chance to prove it. You chose to sit quietly. Didn't Buck say you couldn't bring it up again if you didn't prove it or am I mistaken? :lol:

Seems I'm not.
viewtopic.php?f=132&t=136103

For crying out loud.. either use "biased" in that position or do not even bother trying to use it at all.
Linguistical perversion.. *shakes fist*

Re: An Overview of the History of the Ombudsman

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:17 am
by Clarkey
Noobert wrote:
Clarkey wrote:Everyone's biased to a certain degree because everyone has feelings and emotions (well most do).

But i've never seen the word biased thrown around a place as much as I have this forum.

Yes, but Caesar is implying Jack is bias on his write up of the Ombudsman Overview simply because of previous events that Caesar did not like the outcome of.

That's like me calling you bias for warning me and not Caesar, Clarkey. :lol:

tbh I don't really care. I'm not even following this whole Ombudsman saga.

There's just too much childish bickering on this forum. But then with a forum this size you can't really help that I guess.

Re: An Overview of the History of the Ombudsman

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:24 am
by Noobert
Universe wrote:For crying out loud.. either use "biased" in that position or do not even bother trying to use it at all.
Linguistical perversion.. *shakes fist*

I wasn't sure how he implied it. As a forum user, a moderator, or both. Most likely both seeing as he'll use any excuse to call me a spammer, liar, loser, etc etc blah blah blah.

He can only prove that I am bias towards my allies in terms of being a player not hating his allies for what they do, but punishing those that do something similar. As a moderator? He probably doesn't even have a bloody hippos clue what I ever do as a Moderator, let alone having the knowledge to accuse me of being bias. :lol:

Besides, I'll use the damn word anyway I want. So back off. =;

@Clarkey: I know. I just wanted to let you know. :-D

Re: An Overview of the History of the Ombudsman

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:13 am
by deni
Seems C2 thinks of many mods as biased. Is there anyone you do not see as biased C2?