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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:14 am
by budakajana
Lord Dougy wrote:i got lvl 20, from using the market by selling all my strike weapons and loads of troops had over 2bil out for 30sec doing all that and still came up 100K short, so sold 1 defense weapon :P

my point is that u don't need PPT to get spy lvls, if u want a higher spy lvl sacrifice weapons or troops.


So I take it you have 50billion naq worth of weapons, in readiness for ur lvl 24 upgrade.

Re: PPT idea

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:14 am
by Sleipnir
budakajana wrote:
compmage wrote:
Wolf359 wrote:Why not? My opinion is that if you are using PPT more than a couple of times a month, then you're not really PLAYING the game are you.


Indeed. I have had a total of 3 PPT's since I started playing this game in early Feb. The first when I got SS and the other 2 for ascending and reascending.

If you know how to play this game then you don't need more than, at most, 1 PPT a month, and even then most months you wouldn't use it.


If you know how to play you know how to take positive advantage of more than 1 PPT a month.

If you are not using all possible PPTs then you are wasting an available resource and are not as an effective player as possible.


I could use all my attack turns to mass you, but I don't. Does that make me a lousy player?

Re: PPT idea

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:19 am
by budakajana
Sleipnir wrote:
budakajana wrote:
compmage wrote:
Wolf359 wrote:Why not? My opinion is that if you are using PPT more than a couple of times a month, then you're not really PLAYING the game are you.


Indeed. I have had a total of 3 PPT's since I started playing this game in early Feb. The first when I got SS and the other 2 for ascending and reascending.

If you know how to play this game then you don't need more than, at most, 1 PPT a month, and even then most months you wouldn't use it.


If you know how to play you know how to take positive advantage of more than 1 PPT a month.

If you are not using all possible PPTs then you are wasting an available resource and are not as an effective player as possible.


I could use all my attack turns to mass you, but I don't. Does that make me a lousy player?


Not really an accurate analogy.

Market turns if used create a positive outcome; protection from farming, guaranteed sizeable naq, and if you have a contributing clan, a significant amount of UU to be held without worry.

Attack turns if used create a positive and negative outcome. Positive in that you may remove a small parcel of weapons from the defender. But negative in that you will lose a truckload of untrained (relatively), also drawing considerable (acknowledging possible) retaliation.

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:35 am
by Vegito
Well what happens when you get to spy lvl 23? that is a heck of alot of naq... I know I know... buy weps then sell them... well... I don't like that Idea... I like the way that ppt is set up right now... and obviously so does 80% of the respondants to this thread...

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:54 am
by Wolf359
Actually - i know someone who is about to get level 24 - and I don't believe he's using ppt.

Anyway - nobody has yet to produce a satisfactory response to my earlier comment:

Anyway - I notice lots of people voting no to the suggestion of reducing the number of PPTs - but I don't see them posting any arguments as why they are voting against it?


Or, to put it another way - how would gameplay be deteriorated if a further limit was imposed?

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:09 am
by Sleipnir
Wolf359 wrote:Or, to put it another way - how would gameplay be deteriorated if a further limit was imposed?


Or even abolished. PPT has completely lost the original meaning it had, which was to protect the rewards gained from supporting the site. Now the rewards are so small they are no longer worth protecting, and the protection has become the reward. I'd rather see the reward become something resource-like again. Like maybe a market credit that will give you one free selection from the market. Something not as easy to abuse as invulnerability.

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:29 am
by Wolf359
Wolf359 wrote:Or, to put it another way - how would gameplay be deteriorated if a further limit was imposed?


I am deafened by your silence!

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:40 am
by ProTo Fire Fox
Hey i dont think that there should be a ppt unless you really need it. It should cost 500 mill to get so that would make you only get it if you really need to. Im gana asend :smt059

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:45 am
by General Raam
i agree with this

i have only been on ppt 2 times since jul 13 my birthday and the day i created my account

1 when i started playing the game and when i got ss thats it and im doing great

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:06 pm
by god
I think the PPT system is fine the way it is. It allows people who have real jobs to be able to leave our account in safety if we have to leave on a business trip, not everyone can camp outr by there computer all day long. i don't see it as a bad thing, there are still 10's of thousands of people that you can farm, it is really only the people that are too cheap to use the PPT as part of their strategy that complain about others using it.

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:27 pm
by General Raam
* evil glare * :evil:

no it just aint right the way that all those people do is cowar fight like men or not and be on ppt

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:32 pm
by Sleipnir
god wrote:I think the PPT system is fine the way it is. It allows people who have real jobs to be able to leave our account in safety if we have to leave on a business trip, not everyone can camp outr by there computer all day long. i don't see it as a bad thing, there are still 10's of thousands of people that you can farm, it is really only the people that are too cheap to use the PPT as part of their strategy that complain about others using it.




WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!

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STRATEGY





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In what bloody war can you say "not today, I'm not in the bloody mood, come back in 48 hours", and not worry about being attacked?

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:36 pm
by General Raam
rofl here here listen to sleipnir

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:35 pm
by Lord Sokar
[quote=Lord Anubis]I don't agree with this... merely for the fact that this would take away the advantage that it provides ... like getting your next spy lvls...[/quote]


look, in one ppt, you can easily get your next spy lvl unless it is over like 20billion, come on

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:52 pm
by god
Sleipnir wrote:
god wrote:I think the PPT system is fine the way it is. It allows people who have real jobs to be able to leave our account in safety if we have to leave on a business trip, not everyone can camp outr by there computer all day long. i don't see it as a bad thing, there are still 10's of thousands of people that you can farm, it is really only the people that are too cheap to use the PPT as part of their strategy that complain about others using it.




WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!

ITS





NOT





STRATEGY





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In what bloody war can you say "not today, I'm not in the bloody mood, come back in 48 hours", and not worry about being attacked?


when you make a treaty, you aren't at war...

hence, protected planets TREATY...

the fact that you think that this game is more important than people's real life affairs makes me value your opinion even less... Think about what you are saying.