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Re: Opinions on current state of affairs - Game Admins

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:48 am
by Easy^
My autoban was unresolved for 10 days....

And yes the game is loosing the grip mainly because of this, not because of all the wars going on... updates should be more frequent and so should be Game moderators...tho i know its hard to find ppl willing to do it for free and not abuse the game into their own benefit.

Re: Opinions on current state of affairs - Game Admins

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:57 am
by Easy^
SuperSaiyan wrote:
Easy^ wrote:tho i know its hard to find ppl willing to do it for free and not abuse the game into their own benefit.



thats where non-players come in ;)


Yes but as i said, who would do it for free? Or who would even play a game they are not actually allowed to play? :)
I wouldn't.

Re: Opinions on current state of affairs - Game Admins

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:03 pm
by MEZZANINE
SuperSaiyan wrote:
Easy^ wrote:tho i know its hard to find ppl willing to do it for free and not abuse the game into their own benefit.



thats where non-players come in ;)



Problem is, even non-players, if they have an interest in the game are usually ex-players or friends of players, this will always lead to favoritism, cheating or at least accusations of same.

Admins need to be paid from game revenues and be totally independent from all players past and present, I guess if someone was really interested they could track down the company accounts and see what the revenues really are, and who is correct, those who say Jason makes tons and does little or those who say he's a great guy making no money and doing for a hobby.

As for auto-ban, it serves a necessary purpose and must remain, I dont have the coding knowledge to say if the bugs can be fixed, but it must stay with or without the bugs. Personally I've had negative naq several times and never been banned because I withdraw the funds to cancel it.

On updates, I think Jason was very disheartened by the negative response to most recent upgrades, as I already said in the 'suggestions of admin' section, I believe is because he is out of touch with the players, doesn't read the player suggestions, and because all suggestions should be put to a public poll before coding starts, not after it's already done as with last years.

Re: Opinions on current state of affairs - Game Admins

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:41 pm
by Noobert
The problem is the Game Admin activity, now I love Mark and Sue, but they definately need to be more active. Having a life is fine but how long does it take to unban one person? Not logging on at least once a day before bed even? :?

Then comes into play the amount of naquadah lost, and time lost while being autobanned..there is no way to compensate this except a PPT in my mind, simply due to the fact anyone can lie. A 12 hour PPT should be fine even after 5 hours of autoban simply to give the user time to find that he is unbanned, and log in to bank/train or reclaim any rejected brokers that are going to expire before his PPT ends (or did expire while he was banned).

Personally, I've been autobanned twice now because the script thought that typing 200,000,000 in the training screen when the maximum units allowed to type in is 8 digits and not 9. Faulty there? Not sure.

I appreciate the work they do, but with more and more players getting autobanned..it's not fun to wait the long wait I did..not once, but twice. :?

Re: Opinions on current state of affairs - Game Admins

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:02 pm
by Juliette
I can imagine admin wanting to keep the autoban shrouded in as much secrecy as possible.

Re: Opinions on current state of affairs - Game Admins

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:05 pm
by Antistatic
@ Universe: But heavens, If the Admin can't answer a straight forward question, then why even bother asking him to become more active.

Re: Opinions on current state of affairs - Game Admins

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 2:21 pm
by Juliette
Antistatic wrote:@ Universe: But heavens, If the Admin can't answer a straight forward question, then why even bother asking him to become more active.
A straight forward question about one of the most secret elements of the game's protection system? I do not see how it would be required of admin to answer such a question, or how his answering or not has anything to do with the feasibility of asking him to become more active.
:?

Re: Opinions on current state of affairs - Game Admins

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:25 pm
by BMMJ13
MEZZANINE wrote:As for auto-ban, it serves a necessary purpose and must remain, I dont have the coding knowledge to say if the bugs can be fixed, but it must stay with or without the bugs. Personally I've had negative naq several times and never been banned because I withdraw the funds to cancel it.

That's the thing. I've had it happen to me a few times before and was able to take naq out before anything happened, this time it happened the very next page before I could even see my naq out. It would be interesting if the delay between checking for -naq could be changed as I believe then you could take out from your bank because it waits for the turn or something (although then I guess it would still happen in some cases.) Just some extra time for people to take out naq, since most legit players would rather do that then have to wait for the autoban to be settled.

Re: Opinions on current state of affairs - Game Admins

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:32 pm
by Ictok16
Tetrismonkey wrote:I think, if you cant be as active as the Forum Admins, then you need to be fired from your job as a Game Admin. Does it take but mere minutes to unban someone from an autoban? Yet people have been waiting DAYS upon DAYS to get unbanned...

Im sorry if we all seem to be winners, complainers about the game, but lets face it Jason, Admin boy, since you walked away from the light of the forums because you cant handle the public presure, the game and the additute toward this game and you have gone down hill.

I remember reading a few posts not so long ago that Jason himself made. They were, well, good posts. He was enganged with the gamers, letting them know he was there for them. Its that what we crave, we desire Jason. TO KNOW YOU ARE THERE, TO KNOW YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING!

And so, thats what I think.


i would agree with this 100%

Re: Opinions on current state of affairs - Game Admins

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:35 am
by Seaborgium
d347h wrote:If the database handling code would be well written, there wouldn't be any need for these "scripts". I would rather encourage admin to write it properly, instead of patching it and leaving the entire game alone for days.


I think the above would be the better Idea, Why have admins to unabn when it can be stopped? Main part of a test group is to fix the flaws and the developers to keep working on making it better. By not fixing it right you just hold your development back

Re: Opinions on current state of affairs - Game Admins

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:00 am
by Juliette
Seaborgium wrote:
d347h wrote:If the database handling code would be well written, there wouldn't be any need for these "scripts". I would rather encourage admin to write it properly, instead of patching it and leaving the entire game alone for days.

I think the above would be the better Idea, Why have admins to unabn when it can be stopped? Main part of a test group is to fix the flaws and the developers to keep working on making it better. By not fixing it right you just hold your development back

*clap* Well said, you two.

Re: Opinions on current state of affairs - Game Admins

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:03 am
by minisaiyan
so, new suggestion:
if a player receives negative naq, undo their last action such as bank or repair, then the player who stole the naq still has their naq as they hit fairly and no1 gets banned

Re: Opinions on current state of affairs - Game Admins

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:10 pm
by Seaborgium
best idea to get it fixed, we all stop spending money for a month and see how much it hurts :smt043

Re: Opinions on current state of affairs - Game Admins

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:23 am
by ~Vix~
I personally think that this games admins here are NOT doing a very good job. We have 2 main updates that we've all been waiting for for a long, very long time. Alliance bank, seems to have sat there for ages, don't get me wrong - being in an alliance like Genesis i just watch it go up an insane amount every day haha, but when will we finally get to use it. The ascension server is... well i wont even go there. Now we have good, active, consistant players getting auto-banned every day.

I think a player needs to be allowed to correct the auto bans. Obviously Clarkey is, in most peoples eyes, the #1 candicate. I think Clarkey is a good player and would do well in this position. However i feel like IF he is given that ability ALL actions should be logged and that it should auto-ban corrections only. Its nothing personal Clarkey, just can't give active players too much power in those situations.

The game admins need to step up their game, IMO this game is a cash cow for a certain indiviual and he's just running it dry now. If this game has 50% of the activity now, this time next year, It will be a miricle.

Seaborgium wrote:best idea to get it fixed, we all stop spending money for a month and see how much it hurts :smt043


Yep, that'd wake them up.

Re: Opinions on current state of affairs - Game Admins

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:43 am
by Clarkey
~Vixion~ wrote:I think a player needs to be allowed to correct the auto bans. Obviously Clarkey is, in most peoples eyes, the #1 candicate. I think Clarkey is a good player and would do well in this position. However i feel like IF he is given that ability ALL actions should be logged and that it should auto-ban corrections only. Its nothing personal Clarkey, just can't give active players too much power in those situations.

No personal offence taken. :D
However, who says i'd remain an active player. :smt047