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Colos wrote:If you refer to Magua, then no, he has 'only' 750M

[spoiler]Like me, btw [/spoiler]

Colos

My respect to you Colos...Honestly I did not think anyone was that close...and if anyone has 800+ my respect to them as well...I know how difficult the journey is at that range.

My respect to you too, that is impressive.

Can someone clarify for me the relationship between ToC and the amount of Life force you can kill off. Or is it related to multiplying your strike power in order to more effectively beat someones defence by more than 10x whilst you go in and assault them.

Never really understood the what the formula is or how it works. Info would be appreciated...

The 10x thing is just a basic requirement for an ascended attack. Basicly, your physical strike should be 10+ times higher than the targets physical defence. If it is not, you will not be able to hit the target. Rank mod does not apply here.

About killing LF...

So you succesfully hit the guy. Then, first the targets Personal Def Skill/Level activate and reduce the damage you did. Then, the Repulsion activates, further reducing the damage. Finally, the Personal Constitution activates, further reducing the damage.

For example, if the target has researched 500 to all said levels, then target will suffer only 31.5% of the initial TOC.

But it is not over yet. Ascended Life Force (ALF) is damaged before the reserves. Which means, after the hit, you should take the target's ALF off from the damage you did.

Another example. I hit the guy from the previous example with my 750M TOC. The actual damage I cause is 750M X 0.315, so 236.25M. But said target has let's say 60M ALF, which is taken off from the damage.

Summing it up, you hurt the target's reserves by 176.25M.

Lame, isn't it?

Colos

what percent damage do you take when you have 700 in all of those levels?

Around 17.8%

Colos

Colos wrote:Another example. I hit the guy from the previous example with my 750M TOC. The actual damage I cause is 750M X 0.315, so 236.25M. But said target has let's say 60M ALF, which is taken off from the damage.

It's been a long time since I've descended anyone but that looks a little different to when I used to descend people.

Maybe its because I remember when there was no 'cap' on your life force - you could always go above your maximum and the amount of damage you did was related to how much life force you had.

I can't quite work out where it is, but beyond a certain power up level things appear to get a bit futile for both the descendor and the descendee. Maybe an adjustment to the formulas is in order.

~Insider Trader~ wrote:

Colos wrote:Another example. I hit the guy from the previous example with my 750M TOC. The actual damage I cause is 750M X 0.315, so 236.25M. But said target has let's say 60M ALF, which is taken off from the damage.

It's been a long time since I've descended anyone but that looks a little different to when I used to descend people.

Maybe its because I remember when there was no 'cap' on your life force - you could always go above your maximum and the amount of damage you did was related to how much life force you had.

I can't quite work out where it is, but beyond a certain power up level things appear to get a bit futile for both the descendor and the descendee. Maybe an adjustment to the formulas is in order.

now there is a cap, you can only get to your maximum,
but 700 levels is already 17 percent pretty darn good
hope admin updates as they actually promise : )

It is my pleasure to announce that I have just revoted for the option in the bottom

Colos

congratulations colos.

450-500mil 3% 3% [ 1 ] x

i moved onto the 100-200 mil range

343mil

yikes, I better get on my bike and get a move on....there's some massive numbers out there.

I wonder if someone has done the calcs yet on costs and whether the prize charisma level of 1000 is equivalent to a ToC of 1 billion?

The latter is much-much more expensive, for me, it would cost 1230Q

Colos

From 0 to 1000 charisma costs 726.4Q dmu. But you need to buy the associated fleets to 1,260,000 to optimise your CER. That costs a further 1,183Q. So all up it costs 1,909Q dmu, or just under 2 quintillion.

There was a quantum gambling wave where the game broke when the numbers went over a quintillion. Further reason why ME should not be brought to ascended as is called for in another thread

I think by Christmas I'll have a CER of 1.2 bill, which is a pretty cool number. So for 2010 my goal will be to chase after these ToC numbers. Measuring it will be the problem, apart from this poll there's no rankings to go by!