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Radiance wrote:What, they can learn how to beat up their girlfriends?
There's no way anyone is going to achieve Enlightenment by listening to a black man.
I have watched the Cosby Show for ages, and I am still stuck in this ridiculous racist body. Such a shame.

Oh mister Cosby who doesn't accept the usage of the "n word...so every time i hear that i should just put my hand on my ears and pretend it never happens...Hide everything under a rock and blame rappers...Oh wait it is mostly their fault,and the fault of everyone who used the word to express a negative connotation...

Radiance wrote:What, they can learn how to beat up their girlfriends?
There's no way anyone is going to achieve Enlightenment by listening to a black man.
I have watched the Cosby Show for ages, and I am still stuck in this ridiculous racist body. Such a shame.

Uh?




Anyway, racism is idiocy, no matter from which group of people it comes from. Yes.
However, people have a tendancy to call things racists that aren't. (see my first post)

wow lets not get ruff about black ppl

The 1st post story is not racism its prejudice, big difference.

thats what i said tank

On topic however... I don't buy much into racism. I see it in a general context as no different to calling someone fat, or gay... or not letting the chunky guy on the sports team because he'll get in the way or run slow.

With modern technology they can all be changed if desired so.

Racism has it's edge because it's got a very bad history and in some bad circumstances it's endorsed by national figures who should be more mature than be so pointlessly prejudice.

i agree with semper on far too many topics.
im begining to think he is a wittier and more bitter multiple personality

Semper wrote:On topic however... I don't buy much into racism. I see it in a general context as no different to calling someone fat, or gay... or not letting the chunky guy on the sports team because he'll get in the way or run slow.

With modern technology they can all be changed if desired so.

racism is by definition prejudice with no relevence to actuall attributes. the chunky guy is likely to run slow, because he is heavier and need to exert more power and agility to match the same speed. the fact he CAN change has no relevence if he hasn't.
not allowing the gay guy, or the black, white, jewish, muslim, christian, or whatever on the sports team solely for the fact he is gay, black, white, jewish, musli, christian or whatever is a different matter alltogether.

Kit-Fox wrote:Hate to say it but racism is built into our mental landscape. From birth we begin to identify ourselves in relation to others.

First we identify those with the same skin colour, then we move on to other things like eye colours, hair colour etc.

This is as it were the root beginnings of racism in our psyche. It will takke many more years before we see it removed.

it will take exactly one brave decision, one firm hand by the government on said decision and one generation.
the minute kids from kindergarden onwards will grow in an integrated society, all racism will stop. if youll have your kids playing with black kids since they're 3, at six, when they will realise they have different skin color, they wil think nothing of it. at 8, when they will realise they have (say,) a different religion, they will have them at friends to long for that to matter. at puberty, when one of them will turn out to be gay, the fact they know him all his life will enable them to accept it. at 18, they ewill have pluralisam implanted in theire mental landscape, instead of racism.
after all, we all have much more in common than not.
note i wrote integated society, not integrated institutions. having integrted schools will do squat if there are seperated neigbourhoods.
it's not a wave of a magic wand, but it's a simple, effective and tested plan.

The thought of growing up with the same people from age 1 to 25 in a group, small enough to 'know all about their lives' is sickening.
Isolation, much?

Offensive Bias wrote:The thought of growing up with the same people from age 1 to 25 in a group, small enough to 'know all about their lives' is sickening.
Isolation, much?

i never said thei'd be isolated, just that their immediate enviroment will be diverse. the size of their community can stay the same size, only contain members of more groups.
and i never said they will always be the same people (although i can see how you got it from my post). the point is, if you had a black friend when you were 3, youll be less likely to be racist at 10, thus more likely to have another black friend, and even less likely to be racist when older.

now we enter gov't control which kinda lacks racism but still effects it everywhere we need to crack down on it harder

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yea if someone looks even slightly different there not one of us thats for sure. we somehow even if its thru microchips need to get rid of it.

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Kit-Fox wrote:Wouldnt work Hitchkok, its not about learned responses its about our own development of identification. Such things have been tried and found not to have any noticable effect on whether the people will go on to develop racist tendancies or not.

It happens because we act essentially like pack animals in a group, cutting out those we can clearly identify as different. This starts with simple things such as skin/eye/hair colour, but moves onto more complex ideas like music taste / clothing sytles etc etc.

i beg to differ.
i refuse to accept the notion that humans are inherently racist.
able to identify differences, yes. but that's a far cry from inferring negative/positive traits from those differences. it's all in the education.
and it has been tried and proved to work.

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