Ban me for masking?

[semper]

That is double standards than fine.

I'll just tell you to ST.FU than you FAI.

With no due respect whatsoever Easy... where have FS been? This is how the forums are.. I know you as an alliance like to sit back have a chuckle and throw the "oh it's only a game lets have a ball!" line into the air but to level it to ya there Sandra ultimately this is still a game of politics, reputations and words as far as the forums go. Ingame.. might be different and eventually it will be at a stage where any form of politics are indeed completely redundant because the dam things broke and Jason wont repair it for fear of the game users winging but for now at least if you cannot hack the politics Easy, save the mods some time and just go wimper in a corner.

[nomadicstruggler]

A warning issued by one mod for masking and another mod masks in the same topic, I think they should warn each other for misleading warnings....
I would love a look at the mod discussions, probably full of warnings when one disagrees with the other. It could be a whole internal vendetta between mods that's spilled out onto the main. If a Mod is willing to support masking that should be official enough to call all previous warnings, or at least the most recent ones, into question.

Without risking being warned myself I wont repeat the masked words that were deemed acceptable but Easy's warning should be removed as word in question is the same. Or if that would cause the Universe to implode then go ban the Don for his own masking please.

When Gods go to war, it's the ordinary folk who suffer

[deni]

A warning issued by one mod for masking and another mod masks in the same topic, I think they should warn each other for misleading warnings....
I would love a look at the mod discussions, probably full of warnings when one disagrees with the other. It could be a whole internal vendetta between mods that's spilled out onto the main. If a Mod is willing to support masking that should be official enough to call all previous warnings, or at least the most recent ones, into question.

Without risking being warned myself I wont repeat the masked words that were deemed acceptable but Easy's warning should be removed as word in question is the same. Or if that would cause the Universe to implode then go ban the Don for his own masking please.

When Gods go to war, it's the ordinary folk who suffer

errr


I have a suggestion for you. Why don't you just go back and actually READ our posts?

Maybe then your posts would not seem totally confused.

[Easy^]

That is rather offensive post deni. Maybe you could leave out the attitude and try explaining him in a kinder way?

I clearly understand what he was trying to say, but perhaps some ppls vocabulary is not as strong as yours?

[lord deth4uall]

Not everyone who is on here is from the United States or UK... Also there are people who play this game who have disabilities believe it or not, I recruited a few while back, and most don't post because of replies of misunderstand and biasedness from other players. Just keep in mind what you say and how you say it, because it is very insulting to people who understand stuff like this.

Not saying he has a disability, but just keep an open mind. Not everyone has an over bearing tyranicalistic vocabulary they wish to flaunt because they comprehend the expansive archive of unused arcana called the English language.

So, please keep in mind the limits of the human society and how English is definitely not the first language on the earth, not all nations use it as a first language...

[nomadicstruggler]

Easy explained it to me, nice and slow, so I could understand what exactly I had missed which made my initial posting a poor choice of words. I was wrong to ask for Easy's warning to be lifted, I had misunderstood the difference between the masking of a word and the spelling out of an acronym to create abusive and foul language.

Deni, it's disappointing that as a moderator, you would rather take the route of being dismissive and condescending than helpful by taking the time to explain it to me, which by my post count should know that I hold less experience at the forum wordplay than the other members here. Then again, with the tone you have already set today I guess it would've been full of capital letters where you stress how ignorant you believe I am, as you spell everything out as if to a four year old. I had thought to revenge myself upon the slight, but I'm sure I'm just better off remaining an avid reader of this topic and leave the conversation to the more verbose among you.

And no, I didn't need to look verbose up in a dictionary, it was just an excellent opportunity to use it.

[lord deth4uall]

Should Deni speak German, then? I mean, that is her first language.

Then she of all people should understand how hard it can be for some people to understand the complexity of the english languge, I have many german friends and they even after going back and forth between Germany and US their whole life do not always understand every word I use...

[Zeratul]

it was not your fault, nomadicstruggler... the attitude towards you was generated by how some others were towards her at the time... it can at times be easy to misunderstand a post...

[papa~smurf]

deni

the issue is truely bigger than u

yes the warning for myself by u for masking and now the warning to Mezz by u for masking, we believe to be a bit subjective on your part, however u where with in your right given the rule. In my case it was brought before admin and the ombus, though the warning stands, the use of groups of letter where added to the filter as "masking" so good comes from all things. The positive and negative results of every action one might say.

now i ask of u to fallow through and warn every time FUall is used, because masking is masking, and what is subjective is not in question.

this is what u are saying is it not ?
[spoiler]PLEASE NOTE. THIS IS NOT AN ATTACK ON FUALL, It IS A DISPLAY OF SEPARATE OR UNEQUAL RULES AND SHOULD BE VIEW AS SUCH[/spoiler]

Acronyms are NOT on the filter.

How does this fit into your line of thought?

acronyms are on the filter deni

try

oh my **Filtered** god

[spoiler]OMG[/spoiler]

and see what happens

or shut the **Filtered** up

[spoiler]STHU[/spoiler]

[spoiler]so jack, really u should get a warning for putting "STHU" in quotes a few posts back to avoid the filter...it's masking, dosn't matter if u knew it was wrong or not, cause we are being objective......j/k[/spoiler]

i know cause clarkey and i had along list of them that he agreed with me where masking of a different kind ( this was after u warned me for masking....every event has postive and negitive results). When i used that as my arument over my warning (ea. how some could mask curse words and not be ...etc u get the point ....) it was changed using the filter. The very act of admin filtering acronyms means that acronyms can and are being used to mask

all i am looking for is clear rules, and not subjective (ea. how the mods feels that day about a some one/any one) but objective, as u said they should be.
See we agree.

Sooooooooooooooooooooooo

why is

o m f g wrong

and

fuall ok

Mods, admin.....care to explain ?

[papa~smurf]

Good, now hopefully you'll GTFO.

no offense or trying to demean u , but this is what i am talking about

mods warn for saying:

"blow **Filtered** up"

but it ok to to say:

get the **Filtered** out ?
and by a mod, who can warn/ban for masking

u do not make a strong case for mods when u do that Jack. U know i have never shyed away from saying when i felt u where right, and when i felt u where pushing the envelope. u love this game more than most, so why lessen the dissuasion/yourself like that.

[papa~smurf]

let me that this piece by piece cause this is getting interesting now,

No one should every be warned for merely triggering the filter, and if they do I will be right there to back them up 100%. Same goes for acronyms like STFU and GTFO. It has been decided many times that they are ok, even coming from Jason himself. Them being on the filter is do to an ignorant administrator acting independently.

were in the rules dose it say, acromyms are ok ? and please explain why .

Cause honestly, u really can't have it both ways. You can not warn/ban some one for using, say, mother f'er, and then say that STHU (btw, it still changes the f to h when i write it, how do u get around it in your posts) is ok. U can, but then u subvert the rule to match your subjective view. Both are a mask for mother **Filtered**, a way to get around saying it.

Admin, make the rules, and interpret them, not the mods, at lest that's the way it suppose to work in these set ups. so if an admin made that decision to include acromyms, well it really becomes the "rules" . Weather the mods like it or not.


As for speaking your mind, I love that about you. You should never be afraid to speak your mind... well, unless it is to go against me, of course(J/K). No one should ever be afraid of speaking their mind, that is, of course, so long as it is within the boundaries set forth by the rules.

so what your saying is, you live by the rules, as long as u agree with the rules. Masking is masking acronym, changing a letter, fooling with spelling. As long as u try to get around the filter, u are masking.


If I get into an argument with you, I might tear you to shreds, I might be vicious about it, but please don't ever take it personally. I am just an ass.

we are Americans , it what we do best u and I (j/k)

My point with the post you quoted, was simply that such acronyms were ok and that I wasn't going to warn him for it, hence why I said what I said. Was it clear? Not really, it does require the reader to take a closer look. Is that because I'm inarticulate? No, I don't think so. Rather it is because that's the way I am am.


some times it works for u, some times not

so what i really wanta know is ...

where in the fourm rules dose it set ancroms aside for masking ? Cause unless u cab clearly define masking, u are subjective about, and open to calls of bais.

[papa~smurf]

I like to hear from Admin on this also please

it was Clarky btw who changed the filter i believe, or at lest that is who i spoke most offen about it.

[papa~smurf]

well it seems that admin made a call about acronym
( this is fact due to the filter of them, well some of them at lest)

so in effect, they change the rules and fail to tell u boys and gals
(hence deni saying that acronyms were not filtered, which clearly they are)

There seems to be a general disagreement between Admin and mods .
U all need to clearly amend the rules before u go issuing warnings for "masking". It is unfair to warn/ban some one for masking, when others are allowed to freely do it with acronyms that have yet to be filtered.

At this point, i will ask also that the ombus please state your view. Is there a seperate and unequal rule of fourm happening here.

[papa~smurf]

no, it was done weeks ago

viewtopic.php?f=132&t=153916

how old is that convo ? lol jack, u pack rat
i want some thing current, with current admin, the ones who changed the filter,

i would just email jason if needed, done it before to good result

my issue is that there is a different set of rules for masking, and u guys are being subjective about, while saying it is AN OBJECTIVE.

AND THAT SAID, LORD MEZZ WARNING SHOULD BE REMOVED OR DOWN GRATED TO A VERBAL, BECAUSE HE DIDN'T THINK THE WAS BREAKING THE RULES ANY MORE THAN JACK DID USING HIS CODE TO POST S T F U , which was 'masking' by your own defination of it(going around the filter).

[papa~smurf]

please don't misunderstand me

i am not saying your not doing the best and some time a the greatest job u can under bad settings and rude players

the add of the filter for acroms should have been a globule announcement, u can not be faulted for not knowing what u need to know to do your job

i just think when good player and posters such as Mezz and Myself are warn/ban for "masking" and others, who avoid the filter to insult and hurt get away with it, some thing needs to be fixed

i ask again, reinstate mezz's fourm access, and down grade the warning to verbal
based on unequal rules being used and a lack of clear guide lines involving masking.