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no....they fine the way they are

SGC_Replicators wrote:no....they fine the way they are

Umm... ok? I mean, care to explain why you think that, or take apart my post the way so many people enjoy doing... or... umm... something?

1. will first and most Obvoius resaon is i am a replicator, i know what they are good at and not

2. secound look who is in first place...if reps so unbalanced then why is a replicator at the very top

thats all i got for now

umm... you misunderstand. Reps? I wasn't talking about reps. The tone of the topic had changed a bit... (I knew I should've created a new one).

The Reps and Goa'ulds have bonuses that suit them very well, yes. They don't ... say, hinder them in anyway. They only do what a bonus does... er... bonus.

Right... lemme put it this way. Lets say, because of the bonuses the replicators got in their field of spying, their agents cost 25% more? I can imagine some replicators wouldn't be too happy. Or how about, because of their bonus, both their attack and defense were decreased by 10%. Again, none to happy reps.

Or for the Goa'uld. Lets say because of their bonus, their bank size decreased by 20%. I can imagine some angry Goa'ulds as well. Perhaps, due to their bonus, oh I don't know, their unit production upgrades cost 20% more. Would they be happy about that? Nope.

Now lets say, for example, an Asgard... or Tauri had to spend nearly twice as much into their attack or defense because of their bonus... wait just a minute!

i don't think you see what the point of this game is "strategy" each race has its own way to play the game. its not just a % increase for that race your strategy has to change with it.

brut force and ignorance does not work any more

myFriend wrote:i don't think you see what the point of this game is "strategy" each race has its own way to play the game. its not just a % increase for that race your strategy has to change with it.

brut force and ignorance does not work any more

The point of the game is strategy, but it should not require MORE strategy to be a different race. Perhaps a different strategy, but not more.

As a replicator I don't expect you to understand when a bonus goes "bad". Your bonuses are nothing but positive. Saving millions (literally) on spy bonuses... much more significant than the 10k I save buying a weapon or the 200 I save training a unit.

And even that small amount I do save must be spent (along with a decent percent of my income) into strike action to attempt to make up for the penalty I receive from my bonus.

i doesn't take "MORE" strategy just cuz you have not found how to play the asgurd right. so i am going to give you a hint "use your defence to stop people from taking your naq" and "upgrade your unit prduction to get more naq so you can defend it"

Are you kidding? I figured that out a long time ago...

Well then there is no point to attack turns for Asgard. Not to mention if an Asgard follows your "hint" solely, their rank wavers and declines horribly. Now that isn't really fair, is it?

That's what i've been saying. There are master players, aces out there who have found the so-called "strategy" for the Asgard and Tauri, who have their rank down in the hundreds.

But basically you are saying, a good Asgard completely gives up on attacking, and a good Tauri completely gives up on defending. Now really...?

NEVER EVER stick words in my mouth! i never sed to give up your attack turns. i just sugested that your incume should not come from soly on attacks

Well then who do you suggest the Asgard attack? Tauri?

Other than Tauri, who actually might have a strong enough to defense to drive off an Asgard attack anyway, who else is there?

Do you suggest we go back 10 pages in the rankings to find some farm, then only get 100k off of him, only to spend 70k of it repairing the numerous weapons we need to get our attack high enough in the first place? Bah.

So often you see Asgard with 100s of attack turns just sitting there... and it's because there is nobody they can attack due to this penalty... except farms... and they are not even worth the time. Tell me what "strategy" can make up for this simple fact.

Esker wrote:Do you suggest we go back 10 pages in the rankings to find some farm, then only get 100k off of him, only to spend 70k of it repairing the numerous weapons we need to get our attack high enough in the first place? Bah.

I don't agree with this... Sometimes I go back more than 10 pages and many times I attack somebody for at least 250-300k. Ya just gotta know who to attack. Like maybe the people sitting out in the open with 500k. But what do I know....

Well... before Esker gives me a verbal beating for what I said.... I would like to say that I do agree w/ him that there should not be a penalty on Asgard's attack nor on Tauri's defense. Just wanted to get that out before all hell breaks loose.

It is nice that you think there should be a race specifically designed to attack players who are newer / weaker / at a disadvantage but personally i'm not, and apparently (given there are many many asgard who have 100s of attack turns stockpiled) many others are not ready to degrade themselves to attacking somebody 100s of ranks lower than themselves.

Where is the honor, or fun, in that?

That's as much of a "verbal beating" you are getting, and I suppose I am glad you agree with the overall idea of that penalty being unfair.

ok heres a solution i think
let all the weapons be the same cost and the same inital stregth, as well as the men too.
then allow the bonus to take effect as an over all thing which i thought was why asgards got a 3rd fortification level and tauri had a third siege
this way the asgard are not at a disadvantage to anyone attack wise expect the tauri weapon for weapon and the tauri aren't at a disadvantage for defence expect the asgards weapon for weapon.
this makes since cause this is how it initail was for covert was the same for all races that weren't replicators, since this is their bonus.
this way if u are gouald you have to spend 25% more to equal another race at their bonus and only match them weapon for weapon and spy for spy for the non-bonus of the other races.
this way everyone is equal with other on their non bonus part.
does this sound like what everone thought the game was when they signed up? this is what i thought it was and i think that it is the only fair way to have the game to where no one has a huge advatange that they have now.