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Re: The Destroying of huge defenses by Real Warmongers

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:41 am
by Juliette
hitchkok wrote:
J-ronimo wrote:No intentions to heat old arguments, but it is not really a problem to bring anything down, many times, along some paths...
if it wasn't intented to heat up old arguments, what exactly was it intented to do?
Obviously it was intended to make a point, i.e. that all achievements are relative, and relatively irrelevant.

Still, it's a pretty good record on display, again. Anyone close to those achievements? :)

Re: The Destroying of huge defenses by Real Warmongers

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:16 pm
by J-ronimo
Thanks Radiance for answering instead of me.

Re: The Destroying of huge defenses by Real Warmongers

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:48 pm
by jedi~tank
The achievements are irrelevant to those that dont care or are jealous, but relevant to those that care and appreciate good game play.

Re: The Destroying of huge defenses by Real Warmongers

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:55 pm
by Juliette
Jedi~Tank wrote:The achievements are irrelevant to those that dont care or are jealous, but relevant to those that care and appreciate good game play.
Nonsense.
There are various other possibilities why people would deem them irrelevant.
Also, the false chiasmus "don't care or are jealous" versus "care and appreciate good gameplay" is silly, to put it mildly. I admit that jealousy might be a huge factor in some people's reasoning, but it's not "either you appreciate good gameplay, or you're jealous". That's the reasoning of a six-year old who won a game of marbles.

Having said that, they are some good achievements. The irrelevance I was referring to was the temporary nature of these achievements, in that in one year, it is not unfeasible to think we will see defences of 100T taken out. You are wrong to assume I'm taking my argument from the game itself, because I am one of those who "don't care" (-yet silently feel a hint of jealousy at your success, despite it being as fleeting as a cloud-). :)

Re: The Destroying of huge defenses by Real Warmongers

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:33 pm
by jedi~tank
Jedi~Tank wrote:The achievements are irrelevant to those that dont care or are jealous, but relevant to those that care and appreciate good game play.



:-"

Re: The Destroying of huge defenses by Real Warmongers

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:35 pm
by Juliette
Typical. :roll: Remind me not to expect anything from you next time?
Jedi~Tank wrote:
Jedi~Tank wrote:The achievements are irrelevant to those that dont care or are jealous, but relevant to those that care and appreciate good game play.
:-"

Re: The Destroying of huge defenses by Real Warmongers

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:50 pm
by J-ronimo
JT, if you re-read my post, i was talking about paths that you take to get this done...which are more than relevant.

Re: The Destroying of huge defenses by Real Warmongers

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:16 pm
by jedi~tank
Radiance wrote:Typical. :roll: Remind me not to expect anything from you next time?
Jedi~Tank wrote:
Jedi~Tank wrote:The achievements are irrelevant to those that dont care or are jealous, but relevant to those that care and appreciate good game play.
:-"


You have to be in DDE or pretty close to me to understand the importance of those accomplishments. I prefer to call them conquests. ;)

Re: The Destroying of huge defenses by Real Warmongers

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:08 pm
by JediMasterX
Jedi~Tank wrote:The achievements are irrelevant to those that dont care or are jealous, but relevant to those that care and appreciate good game play.



The achievemnts that Jedi Tank list are about good game play. If it wasn't then everyone would be a stat builder. stargatewars is the name of the game. No lets stargateletsgobuildbignumbersandlookatthem. Nor is it stargateletsgetinawarandnotbuildanythingandhiteachotherforresourcesandncallitawar.

Massing is good gameplay.

Re: The Destroying of huge defenses by Real Warmongers

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:16 pm
by Hitchkok
Radiance wrote:
hitchkok wrote:
J-ronimo wrote:No intentions to heat old arguments, but it is not really a problem to bring anything down, many times, along some paths...
if it wasn't intented to heat up old arguments, what exactly was it intented to do?
Obviously it was intended to make a point, i.e. that all achievements are relative, and relatively irrelevant.

Still, it's a pretty good record on display, again. Anyone close to those achievements? :)


i'll have to take JT's side on this.
if jronimo really did have the irrelevence of achivements on his mind, he wouldn't play, wouldn't post this post, and would certainly not add the comment about "some paths".

Re: The Destroying of huge defenses by Real Warmongers

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:06 am
by Juliette
Marvellous reasoning! I can tell you've all been practising.
Honestly, this argument is too petty to concern myself with any further.

Re: The Destroying of huge defenses by Real Warmongers

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:27 am
by J-ronimo
JediMasterX wrote:
Jedi~Tank wrote:The achievements are irrelevant to those that dont care or are jealous, but relevant to those that care and appreciate good game play.



The achievemnts that Jedi Tank list are about good game play. If it wasn't then everyone would be a stat builder. stargatewars is the name of the game. No lets stargateletsgobuildbignumbersandlookatthem. Nor is it stargateletsgetinawarandnotbuildanythingandhiteachotherforresourcesandncallitawar.

Massing is good gameplay.


Just cause someone can mass big defs is called a good game play, despite the path taken to achieve that? I can count numerous things of good play, but this one is not in my book.

By this, Real warmonger is defined by western standards, bigger numbers the better, and story behind this 'achievements' is irrelevant.

JT; Why make public post then, if we had to be DDE or close to you to understand importance of these accomplishments? To show people outcome of investments and that pay of?


In short, don't wanna go more sideways...does this hold any real value at all, due to means needed to achieve that?

Re: The Destroying of huge defenses by Real Warmongers

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:54 am
by jedi~tank
This thread was intended to continue a discussion that started in another thread yet didnt belong in that thread.

Re: The Destroying of huge defenses by Real Warmongers

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:22 am
by Neimenljivi
J-ronimo and Radiance nicely said.
Anyone can take out any defense if he has enough $ to afford enough resources. That doesn't make him a warmonger.
Warmonger is the one that sacrifices his account for war purposes, account made with his time and devotion, not $.

I remember when someone with 10mil army used all of it to mass big defense, compared to the attack he had with all his army trained in attack, and naturally lost a lot of units in process. That is what a real warmonger is, not someone with 330mil army that masses defenses of even 30tril, and buys back all of the losses with $. That isn't a warmonger, that's a chicken.

JediMasterX - I'm happy you're back. You once were a force to be reckoned with. Please don't talk smack on forums to lose all the respect you've earned so far with actions, it's making you look like a fool. You and I both know that any defense can be taken out by anyone if he's got enough resources available and it's how he got those resources and still chosen to sacrifice them that matters/counts, whichever you prefer, not the mass itself.

~N

Re: The Destroying of huge defenses by Real Warmongers

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:26 am
by Almost38
and JT when u become a real warmonger u can post this thread but until u throw ur accoutn away just to win a war come here and post cause massing a few high def isnt crap ive done better things then that