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Re: Behind Taliban Lines

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:48 pm
by Lord Yojimbo
looks like Ive killed this topic in one speech :razz: :lol:

Re: Behind Taliban Lines

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 1:20 am
by Jack
Lord Yojimbo wrote:looks like Ive killed this topic in one speech :razz: :lol:

I think with your post, you were trying to say that the war is a war of propaganda more than violence, yes? And as such, you are saying that they shouldn't report the other side of the war, because you want to win. Yes?

Re: Behind Taliban Lines

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:33 am
by Lord Yojimbo
Dr. House wrote:
Lord Yojimbo wrote:looks like Ive killed this topic in one speech :razz: :lol:

I think with your post, you were trying to say that the war is a war of propaganda more than violence, yes? And as such, you are saying that they shouldn't report the other side of the war, because you want to win. Yes?


lol - no - in relation to the war

- the approach is not comparable to previous afgan (lessions were learned especially form the soviets) wars so more likely to succeed
- the system of governence in afganistan needs to be addressed in order to ensure the war is a success in the long term
- people need to be more involved in their governemt (i suggested religion can help there since its a corner stone of afgan culture and also it can prevent corruption - short term solution tho)

as for the western media
- US media have a nasty habit of not being partial since they have a certain amount of influence in what the media sees in afganistan
- British media are less inclined to follow party lines (fox news anyone :P) and political retorick and do offer much more accurate news

media in general in terms of war
- the media is a tool which is more assesable to the west but is still used by terrorists: this means different types of media used by each side
- the governemt then tries and often succeds in manipulating the media to control/influence the public opinion on the war (bush is a prime example)
- while the taliban use the internet more so as it is less controlled (then again the taliban dont really operate as governemt any more)

My last line basically states: The news is a reflection of the cultural perspective depending on what you belief in are where your origins lay.
There is no unbiased news - it is manipulated to a differeing extent and this is dependant on where the source is based from and also for the audience its being broadcast too but also your own individual perspective will influence what you think.

News is there for us to make our own opinions upon after all.

That answer where i stand?

- war is war, it is always violent and always full of propoganda
- second of all all sides should report news of worth as it is but that is not the case
- third - im not american and im not an afgan :lol: so i preferably would like to see an end to the US projecting its power in afganistan when they have won the war
- and finally i think we would all like to to see an end to the terrorist threat as well but that will never happen

I have no side in this but i am swayed by my own perspective on how things work in the world - very hard to remain unbiased dont you think?

By the way I do Power Point presentations as well :lol: :lol: :lol: :razz: :razz: :razz: (apologies - bad irish humour :smt047 )

Re: Behind Taliban Lines

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:42 pm
by Jack
The discussion really isn't about the war, though. It's about people like that one reporter that went and chilled with the Taliban and filmed them for a bit, or those devs who made a game based on Fallujah and hired (former?) insurgents as advisers.

Re: Behind Taliban Lines

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 1:08 pm
by Lord Yojimbo
Dr. House wrote:The discussion really isn't about the war, though. It's about people like that one reporter that went and chilled with the Taliban and filmed them for a bit, or those devs who made a game based on Fallujah and hired (former?) insurgents as advisers.


I know but the war is inportant in this - its good that reporters are willling to show us the other side of the story but its can be misused by the taliban - still it gives greater insight into their lives - interesting stuff.

well if game developers want realism then why not :P if the insurgents have paid their price to society the I dont see no harm as long as thye are monitored

I just felt that it is necessary to look at the war itsself since it have had such an influence via the media on people and also shows how the media has being used by both sides but still I do recongise the fact they have done some good reporting as well.